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What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods?


jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1321
No. Courgettes can be cooked too, and marrows are huge.

What is the size which marks the border between them?

We aren't Germans who have to define everything or they start to panic at the chaos of it all.

They become marrows when they look like marrows.
OP pawian  220 | 24927
22 Aug 2024 #1322
It's an Italian word but I always associate it with the American term for what we call courgettes.

Courgettes is French. Amasing you prefer French, spoken by traditional enemies of the English nation, than Italian.
Feniks  1 | 485
22 Aug 2024 #1323
Deirdre Hunt/Langton/Barlow/Rashid/Barlow's stuffed marrows on Corrie were famously bad

I've watched Corrie on and off for years but I don't remember her stuffed marrows! I'd forgotten all her surnames too! Fair play, you've got a good memory. I remember the 'Free the Weatherfield One' campaign though.

That and pumpkins plus all sorts of squash. Every day for four years.

That sounds dire :(

Fried with garlic sound great, though

They take up the flavour really well as they're quite a bland vegetable.

Courgettes is French

I was talking about the word Zucchini which is from Italian Zucchina. I know courgette is French, we just call them that over here :)
jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1324
I remember the 'Free the Weatherfield One' campaign though

That was a sensation. The actress was a really nice person. As I remember, she was busted for pot back in the early 80s. I've not really watched it since those days, though in the urban parts of the north it used to be almost a religion. At one point, there were three permanent museums dedicated to it.

When I was a little kid, Ida Clough (who worked at Baldwin's) lived quite near and when I was a teen, Ivy Tilley lived just across the fields opposite our house. Then Percy Sugden moved into the Manor House in our village, but I'd left home by then.

Courgettes is French

And English. As etui is French and Polish.

They take up the flavour really well as they're quite a bland vegetable.

That's their strength, as long as they're done fairly quickly.

Thinking about courgettes, I was just out at the supermarket (but couldn't take a photo due to the phone being on charge here) and saw the very pale courgettes that you see in Africa. The palest of them are almost white. They're a bit more bitter than the European kind.
Paulina  15 | 4422
22 Aug 2024 #1325
They take up the flavour really well as they're quite a bland vegetable.

I think zuchhinis are great! I love them in a version of leczo (Hungarian lecsó) that my family makes - yum! :d

polonist.com/polish-leczo-kielbasa-and-peppers/

I honestly can even eat it when it's only zuchhini and sausage in it, without the peppers and tomatoes :)

Fried with garlic sound great

Zuchhinis are great when fried! The smell is amazing! I really like the recipe I learned from Buddy Valastro for zucchini patties when watching his show - here's a video of his wife making them (it's her mom's recipe):


jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1326
leczo

One of my favourites. It really does make a difference tearing the peppers rather than cutting them.

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zucchini patties

That looks nice.

You'll maybe say it's heresy, but grated, a bit of courgette doesn't hurt kotlety mielone;-)
Feniks  1 | 485
22 Aug 2024 #1327
in the urban parts of the north it used to be almost a religion

I get that. My mother was a northerner and watched it religiously for years.

I don't remember Ida Clough but Ivy Tilsley and Percy Sugden definitely yes. Where you lived was obviously popular with cast members!

That was a sensation.

Wasn't it just! I can remember seeing people wearing T-shirts with that slogan. I don't think anyone expected the storyline to become that huge!

I love them in a version of leczo

I hadn't heard of this but after looking at the recipe link I've been eating something similar for years. Minus the courgettes! Maybe I'll add them next time.

zucchini patties

I would definitely give those a try.
jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1328
Where

I suppose so. It wasn't anywhere particularly posh, so maybe it was that they cast actors from the working men's club scene. Ivy Tilsley, Jack and Vera Duckworth and a few others came from that environment. Paul Shane from Hi De Hi lived in the next village too.

T-shirts with that slogan. I don't think anyone expected the storyline to become that huge!

Tony Blair actually mentioned it from the dispatch box. Then again, Elsie Tanner was his step mother in law due to marrying Tony Booth.

About Leczo, it really is only a summer thing when peppers are in season, however it's delicious. You can buy frozen bags from Hortex marked leczo but it's not the same as fresh.
Lenka  5 | 3534
22 Aug 2024 #1329
I really like the recipe I learned from Buddy Valastro for zucchini patties

I will give it a try. I'm also looking into making those zucchini 'meatballs':
kwestiasmaku.com/przepis/pulpeciki-z-cukinii
Feniks  1 | 485
22 Aug 2024 #1330
Tony Blair actually mentioned it from the dispatch box.

I didn't know that! Small world....

it really is only a summer thing when peppers are in season, however it's delicious.

The dish I make which is similar I've eaten all year round. I only use yellow and red peppers for it though. I don't think the dish really suits green ones.

zucchini 'meatballs':

They look nice too.
Paulina  15 | 4422
22 Aug 2024 #1331
@Lenka, those zucchini "meatballs" sound great too! :d

It really does make a difference tearing the peppers rather than cutting them.

Why is that?

That looks nice.

Mine look a bit different than in the video - they're bigger and flatter (I fry them like placki ziemniaczane) and they're not as brown as hers. The colour is more like in this recipe:

allrecipes.com/recipe/13941/zucchini-patties/

patties

I just use ordinary cheese and flour instead of that Bisquick thing that Valastro's wife used in the video (I think I even remember frying them without flour). If you don't like parsley then don't add it or add just a little bit - they're still very tasty without it :)

it's delicious

The veggies soaking up that smoky sausage flavour... So good and juicy... Great smell too... ;O
Paulina  15 | 4422
22 Aug 2024 #1332
You'll maybe say it's heresy, but grated, a bit of courgette doesn't hurt kotlety mielone;-)

Hmm, sounds interesting... 🤔 I like experimenting, so why not! :) Have you tried it yourself?

after looking at the recipe link I've been eating something similar for years. Minus the courgettes!

Interesting - does this dish have any particular name in English?

They're definitely worth a try, imho! :)))
Feniks  1 | 485
22 Aug 2024 #1333
does this dish have any particular name in English?

I don't know anyone else that makes it as it's just something I cobbled together as an experiment years ago. It tasted nice so I've been cooking it ever since :)
OP pawian  220 | 24927
22 Aug 2024 #1334
Jon, so what is this fried stuff on the left - courgettes or marrows??
Btw, what is this red drink in the mug??



jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1335
Have you tried it yourself?

Yes. It works nicely. I also put grated onion in, as they do in Ukraine. They both keep the kotlety ńiće and moist, especially if they're heavy in the breadcrumbs.

Why is that?

I've never figured it out, but the final results from cutting them and from tear g them are really different.

The food in the picture looks wonderful, and yes, cheese and flour sounds better than bisquick. The only advantage of bisquick is probably that it contains baking powder however cheese would give it a nicer effect and make it more substantial.

I'm hungry now.

courgettes or marrows??

Probably courgette unless your plate and cutlery are humongous.

The red drink? Is it from pigwa?
Paulina  15 | 4422
22 Aug 2024 #1336
@jon357, yeah, this discussion is mouthwatering ;D

As for the Valastro's recipe for those zucchini patties - there's cheese in that one too, I just meant that it doesn't have to be parmesan in particular - any "yellow cheese" will do the job :)

I don't know anyone else that makes it as it's just something I cobbled together as an experiment years ago.

Wow, so you're a culinary pioneer! :)

I see a moderator is in action again messing up my post: 🙄

They're definitely worth a try, imho! :)))

This was my response to Feniks and Lenka who wrote that they'd like to try out those zucchini patties I posted about.

I also put grated onion in, as they do in Ukraine.

Is that an Ukrainian thing though? 🤔 We do that in my family too... I'd say it's a standard for kotlety mielone recipe :)
Paulina  15 | 4422
22 Aug 2024 #1337
Yes. It works nicely.

Good to know! :) I think I remember my mother adding buckwheat groats (kasza gryczana) to kotlety mielone once, but I haven't become a fan of that...

I've never figured it out, but the final results from cutting them and from tear g them are really different.

You mean flavour-wise? 🤔
jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1338
it doesn't have to be parmesan in particular - any "yellow cheese" will do the job :)

True. I find that the stronger it is, the better it works and sometimes add Parmesan or the cheap and just as good Dziugas (from Lithuania) or Grano Padano (good value from Biedronka), if it's not strong.

Is that an Ukrainian thing though?

My OH insists it is however he's from a part of that country where traditionally there are a lot of Poles and his mum (who I suppose he got the recipe off) is half Polish.

What goes down well in my house is a simple biscuit dough (essentially shortcrust pastry with a little less marge/butter and a bit of baking powder) with some (20% is good) wholemeal flour and as much grated cheddar and Parmesan worked into it as you can without it getting greasy. Finely chopped dried chillis and/or herbs are optional. A bit of paprika works. Then roll out, chill in the fridge for a bit, make into rings with a cookie cutter (though they're never very neat due to the amount of fat, then bake for a few mins until golden and let them cool upside down. If you make that, I promise they won't be sitting around for very long.
Feniks  1 | 485
22 Aug 2024 #1339
so you're a culinary pioneer! :)

I just really enjoy cooking I guess. I'm always experimenting with different dishes :) Not always successfully I might add.....
Miloslaw  21 | 4867
22 Aug 2024 #1340
@jon357

Your spicy cookies sound good to me!
Feniks  1 | 485
22 Aug 2024 #1341
what is this red drink in the mug??

Kompot?
jon357  73 | 22641
22 Aug 2024 #1342
You mean flavour-wise?

The texture, The effect is really different.

@Milo

They are really good and simple. Really moreish. BTW, I said chopped dried chilli but actually meant chilli flakes. Only a bit though. And it helps if you don't handle the dough any more than needed,
OP pawian  220 | 24927
23 Aug 2024 #1343
Kompot?

Yes, of course.
Alien  22 | 5478
23 Aug 2024 #1344
Kompot

It could also be red borscht, the kind you can drink.
jon357  73 | 22641
23 Aug 2024 #1345
the kind you can drink.

Mmmmm, delicious.

If there had been green flecks of herbs and a little visible oil on the surface, I'd have said that.

My first thought was kompot however there were no berries floating in it and the colour really does suggest pigwa.
OP pawian  220 | 24927
23 Aug 2024 #1346
It could also be red borscht,

My red borsch which I drink every day is dark red. Crimson, sort of. And I have it only for breakfast.
As for courgettes/zuchini, a popular way to cook them is frying with cheese on top. Here, my wife`s dish.



OP pawian  220 | 24927
23 Aug 2024 #1347
And I have it only for breakfast.

Here, my breakfast but without red borsch drink . Sorry.



Alien  22 | 5478
23 Aug 2024 #1348
my breakfast

Paprikacream? Why not ketchup?
mafketis  38 | 10843
23 Aug 2024 #1349
Hungarian Paprikakrem eats ketchup's lunch.... far better. Ketchup has it's purposes... I guess... but paprikakrem is great!

Not that csipos (means 'spicy' or 'hot' = pikantny) contrasted with edes ('mild' 'sweet' = łagodny)
OP pawian  220 | 24927
23 Aug 2024 #1350
Paprikacream?

The taste of my childhood - Hungarian paprika paste in hot version. I will never forget its taste in cheese sandwiches which my school mates shared with me.


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