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Suggestion: limit access to off-topic forum to members only


Harry
2 Mar 2017  #1
I understand that the policy here is not to delete the obvious trolling threads and instead to just put them in the bin. But doing that simply means that the troll only has to look in the bin to see the results of his work. And he can then troll further using that same throw-away guest username and IP address.

If the policy of not deleting any posts is to continue, might I suggest that access to the off-topic forum is limited to members only. The majority of the trolling is being carried out by a couple of people who are banned under their various usernames and so instead are abusing the guest function while using proxy servers, and they're being whipped up by a member who has been banned under different usernames and now uses meatpuppets to spread his bile (and most likely instructs his minions on how to user proxy servers, given that he has posted here about communicating with now banned users both via PF and other channels and has posted about his ability to post using an IP address from a country other than the one he was then in).

Limiting access to the off-topic forum to members only (or at least access to the bin) won't stop the problem, but it will reduce the problem, and there's always the chance that an unbanned member will make a mistake when trying to change his IP address and thus post from the same IP address with his registered username and his trolling guest handle, which, if spotted, will greatly reduce the problem while that member is banned.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,504
2 Mar 2017  #2
The majority of the trolling is being carried out by a couple of people who are banned under their various usernames

Any proof of that, Har? If not, the sole purpose of this thread of yours is spreading slender.

the policy here is not to delete the obvious trolling threads and instead to just put them in the bin.

So this thread here should also go to the bin, mon cher ami.
OP Harry
2 Mar 2017  #3
Any proof of that, Har?

Yes: their obsession with the same boring topics, and their painfully obvious writing styles (and attempts to hide that style by making silly mistakes), to say nothing of their attempts to 'settle scores' (such as the troll who was sacked by a PF member when the clients refused to pay for a supposed professional who was in reality to stupid to find his away across a street).

But even if I was completely wrong and even if your post wasn't just off-topic trolling designed to drive the discussion away from whether or not something which your friends clearly enjoy should be stopped, the point would still remain: the current system of simply moving trolling threads to a place where they can still be read and responded to clearly does nothing to stop trolling. Instead it encourages them.
jon357 63 | 14,124
2 Mar 2017  #4
Absolutely. Boring, generally inaccurate and trolling for a response. Also passes right over the head of most people who just see a madhouse.

spreading slender




OP Harry
2 Mar 2017  #5
most people who just see a madhouse.

Yes, all casual visitors see is a forum where trolling is fully permitted, no wonder they move on without posting or joining.

I think that that is a problem and I'd like something to be done about it. Preventing people from abusing the guest member function to post purely trolling posts and threads would be a good way of doing that.

Although a better way would simply to delete all posts by 'guest' members which currently would be directed to the bin.
Atch 17 | 2,861
2 Mar 2017  #6
I agree with Harry. Obvious rubbish should simply be deleted - full stop. Also, either get rid of the guest member option or restrict off-topic to members only.
jon357 63 | 14,124
2 Mar 2017  #7
I think it used to be like that once.

Having said that, visitors don't see the off-topic section unless they specifically select that.
NoToForeigners 6 | 984
2 Mar 2017  #8
Obvious rubbish should simply be deleted

This would make you basically disappearing from PF.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,504
2 Mar 2017  #9
This is the best joke you have ever told on this forum, Notty.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,648
2 Mar 2017  #10
Although a better way would simply to delete all posts by 'guest' members which currently would be directed to the bin.

Yes, these posts will stop as soon as those posting them know that they won't have any effect.
Wulkan - | 3,251
2 Mar 2017  #11
limit access to off-topic forum to members only

But then about 50% of posts in the bin will be yours, how is that supposed to make you look good?
OP Harry
2 Mar 2017  #12
Also, either get rid of the guest member option or restrict off-topic to members only.

There's no chance of the guest member option being done away with (and frankly it can be useful) but preventing anybody other than members from viewing the bin would help greatly to reduce the trolling here.

these posts will stop as soon as those posting them know that they won't have any effect.

And if nothing is done the problem is only going to get worse. We've had two purely trolling threads today alone.

But then about 50% of posts in the bin will be yours

Even if your post was true and wasn't just yet more of the off-topic trolling designed to drive the discussion away from whether or not something which your friends clearly enjoy should be stopped, I'd still maintain my stance. And you should support it: if what you say is true, the fact that then half of the posts in the bin would be mine would clearly show the admin that I should be banned for posting so much of the drivel here.
nothanks - | 640
2 Mar 2017  #13
> "The majority of the trolling is being carried out by a couple of people who are banned under their various usernames"

Majority? Maybe but it's not as large of a margin as you probably assume. This is one of the first results on Google when searching Poland forum or message board. As long as these two terms are still widely used - random people will stumble here.
Wulkan - | 3,251
3 Mar 2017  #14
if what you say is true, the fact that then half of the posts in the bin would be mine would clearly show the admin that I should be banned

But I don't want you to get banned, who is going to entertain us?
OP Harry
3 Mar 2017  #15
Majority? Maybe but it's not as large of a margin as you probably assume.

Definitely. Today we've already got another example.

I'm just wondering how long it will be until the problem gets worse.
OP Harry
4 Mar 2017  #16
And more trolling threads by 'guest' posters again today.
johnny reb 17 | 3,525
4 Mar 2017  #17
A good example why one should not intentionally bully, belittle, insult, or try to lord over other posters here.
You may just p - off the wrong person that will comeback to serve you the same dish that you served them ten fold.
Now that you are being insulted, belittled, bullied it isn't quite so funny is it.
You shouldn't go running to the Mods now that the shoe is on he other foot and you are "helpless" to do a damn thing about it except cry about it day after day after day to the Mods.

Man up, admit that you brought this drama on yourself and deal with the monster that you created har.
Has it ever crossed your mind that you are not the intellect that you think you are ?
You and your side kick think (and even have posted here) that you run this forum.
Both of you have been kicked squarely in the nuts because of it and STILL insist on abusing people.
Well guess what har, there is always someone out there that is a little bit bigger, nastier, smarter, stronger, wittier, abusive then you are so save the drama and tears and learn from your mistake.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,504
5 Mar 2017  #18
Johnny, this was an excellent fatherly piece of advice for Harry!

Let's all hope he will listen attentively and behave accordingly.

Now, let's wait for a motherly piece of advice for him from Ms Atch!
johnny reb 17 | 3,525
5 Mar 2017  #19
Thank you.
Don't get me wrong here.
I think the OP here has made some very good points.

that the policy here is not to delete the obvious trolling threads and instead to just put them in the bin.

I agree.
The administration had no problem deleting hundreds of my posts in a particular thread yet they put trash trolling posts in the bin.
(Remember when InPolska and I were 'disagreeing' about Muslims ? Most of my posts were deleted in that thread.)
I support the OP's main idea's here yet at the same time he must understand that just taking a pill for the headache will not solve the continuations of headaches.

Let's find out what is causing the headache so we don't have to keep taking pills.
Pigsy is back alive and well and driving the OP up the wall with his trolling.
It was the OP's choice to spar with Pigsy and this is what he gets for being so relentless with his insults and belittlements thinking at the time he was being humorous.

How many times have we heard the Mods tell us that the fastest way to get rid of a troll is to just ignore them ?

The OP chose not to take this advise and chose to spar instead and now is crying over his spilled milk.
OP Harry
5 Mar 2017  #20
Good old Cartman, one can always rely on him to let his pride in doing the wrong thing to cause his mouth undo him. And just as he revealed himself to be low enough to get pleasure from abusing women by boasting here about how much he enjoys abusing women, and just as he revealed himself to be low enough to punch a nun in the face hard enough to break her nose by boasting here about punching a nun in the face hard enough to break her nose, now he's boasting here about how he and his meatpuppets are using the guest member function to post trolling threads to settle scores which they are unable to settle man to man.

Clearly we are going to have to put up with more trolling threads by the meatpuppet army (or at least Cartman's single meatpuppet) and thus this once decent forum being driven yet further into the toilet until either the actions I suggest in the first post are taken or the meatpuppet master is banned, yet again.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,504
5 Mar 2017  #21
and thus this once decent forum being driven yet further into the toilet until either the actions I suggest in the first post are taken or

And you expect anyone to treat you seriously on this forum? Obviously not.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,648
5 Mar 2017  #22
now he's boasting here about how he and his meatpuppets are using the guest member function to post trolling threads to settle scores which they are unable to settle man to man.

I think we all know that he and a couple of others have been abusing the function for years, while trying to pin it on others.

I think Harry's proposal to simply delete the posts of guest posters that are evidently trolling here is a good one.
johnny reb 17 | 3,525
6 Mar 2017  #23
a couple have been abusing the function for years

Seems those "couple" are crying the loudest but also have been banned themselves more then all the rest of the members put together for abusing this function.
Being both of them are ex-pats that boast with 'authority' of speaking for the country of Poland and pretending to be Polish born and raised themselves as they constantly are posting anti - Polish with hate.
This has been pointed out to both of them constantly.

while trying to pin it on others.

No one has to 'try' to pin the guilt on you two as you do it quite well all by yourselves.
Both being banned several times doesn't seem to be working to force them to stop their provoking drama, like in this thread.

to settle scores which they are unable to settle man to man.

Glad to hear that we are getting under your skin for you posting such lies to belittle and insult others with your pointless merry go round.
Save the venting tears as you are boring us with how YOU are upset with having your smack getting thrown back into your face.
Have it ever crossed your minds that YOU are not the victims here ?
You are the ones that provoke the drama here in not only Off - Topic but create threads like this one to vent your insults and belittlements.......Listen and learn now, YOU two are not afforded a one way street here.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,648
6 Mar 2017  #24
Seems those "couple" are crying the loudest but also have been banned themselves more then all the rest of the members put together for abusing this function.

I don't recall any such bans. Perhaps you'd like to explain how you seem to have so much knowledge of people abusing the guest post function.
jon357 63 | 14,124
6 Mar 2017  #25
Perhaps you'd like to explain how you seem to have so much knowledge of people abusing the guest post function.

That is actually a very good question
johnny reb 17 | 3,525
7 Mar 2017  #26
(Just for you jon.)
Because when delph was posting under the guest name "Shut Yo Face" (along with six other guest names) pretending to be Pigsy, when delph was suspended, for posting Adrian's real identity and e-mailing Adrian's boss with intentions of getting Adrian fired.

Then there was my friend who I wish not mention his name that posted this.
Quote = Shall i post the content of Delphiandomine pretending to be me whilst he was suspended, the content of him blaming the incident on an old member 'Seanus' and terrorising another old member Dtaylor at the same time? If you really want to see a deranged mind i still have all of it. He even went through Seanus's old threads to come up with a name (which Seanus had used) so as to deflect the blame on an older member.

Delph also threatened Jason's (the best member this forum's ever had) family and caused him to delete his account. Delphi didn't like Jason.

I remember when Delph first became a member here, anybody who posted something with any kind of good business idea or something which showed potential financial or otherwise Delph would be all over it, with jealous, mean intent.

Delph is also responsible for the most discusting comment ive ever read on any internet forum/thread/board. It went something like this: there was another old member PLK123 was his screen name (left because of Delph), he was a Pole living in the US, he emigrated there years ago. It came to light that he confronted a couple of burglars at his house and consequently one of them shot him though the spine and he was paralysed, a member found out about this and posted on PF so well knew about it. Delphi was having a PF online dispute with this guy and said to him and i quote "when will you stop milking your accident".

There are line that shouldn't be crossed, PLK123 was a hero for doing what he did, and he paid a price which he will suffer for the rest of his life, he is paraplegic. I cant even begin to imagine how his life is now....and to have some short fat little angry fcuker like Delph say that simply blows my mind. Stop Quote.

I don't recall any such bans

Bans, suspensions, same thing.
That was the first suspension you got that I remember.
Then there was the one for calling a member on Christmas Eve and making his wife cry. Jason wasn't it ?
And the last one was when you posted Adrian's name and telephone number and e-mailed his boss trying to get him fired was the last one that I was aware of.

Perhaps you would like to tell us how many you have had in between.

you seem to have so much knowledge of people abusing the guest post function.

You are the one boasting and pointing your finger Slick.
I was merely pointing out what a hypocrite you are to merely cause more drama here.
I'm afraid that your mental disability issues of such a immature sick mind and loud mouth could cause you some major medical one of these days Pal.

delph was suspended for nine months and hasn't been back two weeks and has started in right where he left off with the drama.

It was so much more peaceful here without him.
jon357 63 | 14,124
7 Mar 2017  #27
Then there was the one for calling a member on Christmas Eve and making his wife cry. Jason wasn't it ?

I remember something more or less the opposite of that. Not Jason though, somebody else.

Was 'shut yo face' not the awful Piggsy?

A lot of this seems to be hearsay and maybes.
johnny reb 17 | 3,525
7 Mar 2017  #28
I just posted a quote from the guy so it is hardly hearsay jon.

Was 'shut yo face' not the awful Piggsy?

No, 'shut yo face' was delph without a doubt.
And delph has the audacity to talk about limit access to off - topic forum to members only when he post under guest names when he is suspended which calls for suspension doesn't it ?
jon357 63 | 14,124
7 Mar 2017  #29
One very big issue is that the banned Piggsy has used so many guest names that it's cryng wolf to suggest that one of those many names is not his.

Who is the quote from?

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