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Please do not quote excessively


Barney 15 | 1,594
5 May 2015 #31
quoting when you're browsing with safari works fine on a MacBook but on an iPad (2) or iPhone (4) it doesn't work.

You are correct about the ipad2, I have just checked several models and ipad 3 and 4 allow you to quote.
jon357 74 | 22,060
5 May 2015 #32
Complicated with computers - a small difference in specs, especially with Apple ones can make a lot of difference. With the iPad 2 quoting is a total pain. I've just ordered the newest kind (worth it since I use all the time) and pleased to hear that it's different.
Harry
5 May 2015 #33
No chance on my smart phone or tablet.
There's no quote function in Chrome or Firefox on Android KitKat or Lollipop and wasn't on Jelly Bean when I last used that.

[edit] and still no quote support on Chrome on PC either.
Barney 15 | 1,594
5 May 2015 #34
There's no quote function in Chrome

I made an error earlier, I wasn't logged in to the site on Chrome. The quote function is working for me on Chrome (PC).

Mobile devices tend to be app driven, they are not good for general browsing.
Harry
5 May 2015 #35
The quote function is working for me on Chrome (PC).

Not working on Version 42.0.2311.135 m of Chrome.
Barney 15 | 1,594
5 May 2015 #36
That's the version I have on my machine, have you tried logging out and back in again?
Harry
5 May 2015 #37
have you tried logging out and back in again?

Just did that.

[edit]It appears that logging out and in doesn't work.
Barney 15 | 1,594
5 May 2015 #38
I assume you are adding the quote manually because it is appearing on my screen.

do you see the @ postername iconwhen you highlight text
Harry
5 May 2015 #39
I assume you are adding the quote manually because it is appearing on my screen.

Nope, I highlight and then click the @ postername icon which appears when the post is clicked on.
Admin 29 | 1,484 Administrator
5 May 2015 #40
I highlight and then click the @ postername icon

That's how it should work.
Harry
5 May 2015 #41
Yes, that's how it worked last week (up until Friday). Now, however it doesn't. Although it does now work that way on Firebox for Android Lollipop.

That's how it should work.

I tried the F5 thing you suggested. It seems to have done the trick.

Everybody, try pressing F5.

That's how it should work.

The quote function on Chrome appears to have stopped working again. I have tried pressing F5. The quote function on Firefox still works fine.

It should continue working, nothing was changed (unless you try to quote the whole previous message then it won't include the quote now).. maybe try to open an Incognito window and login there and see if it helps.

Just to make sure we're all on the same page here, can admin kindly confirm that this new(-ish) rule also applies to quoting from sources other than PF? Yes.
jon357 74 | 22,060
19 Nov 2015 #42
Same with iPads, even the newer kind. Over the past couple of days it's been a bit hit and miss.
dhrynio 5 | 95
22 Nov 2015 #43
Just want to voice my opinion on this. This forum has way too many rules. They are childish really. We are all grown adults and there is no need to micromanage people about how they should post. If you don't like all of the quotes then don't read them, but they are useful.

And expecting people to stay on topic in threads is just stupid. Why do you care? Some of teh funniest stuff comes form threads going a bit off track and anyways they always come back to the track. What is behind the micromanaging of threads? I really don't get it.

I have been a mod and admin on forums before and all you are doing is making more work for yourselves and a headache for your posters and in the end you are just turning people off of your forum.

You would be better to use your time in getting rid of the trolls and monitoring the absolute ******** which put a very negative and dark shadow on your forum. It is the main reason that I do not take part very often.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854
22 Nov 2015 #44
What is behind the micromanaging of threads? I really don't get it.

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Roger5 1 | 1,446
22 Nov 2015 #45
dhrynio. +1

If you don't like all of the quotes then don't read them

Hard to know until you read them. Bringing back the ignore option would help. I've managed to filter out one member, whose obsession with a Slavic Commonwealth used to exasperate me, but some posters still get under the skin. Why no ignore button?
TheOther 6 | 3,667
28 Nov 2015 #46
Bringing back the ignore option would help.

Why? If you don't like a member, don't read his or her posts. Simples.
Roger5 1 | 1,446
28 Nov 2015 #47
It's hard to ignore posters who suggest the mass extermination of Muslims, or shooting migrants at borders. I feel it's a moral duty to challenge that kind of savagery. The ignore option saved a lot of pointless argument. Simple.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
28 Nov 2015 #48
I feel it's a moral duty to challenge that kind of savagery.

How can you challenge these posters when you ignore them? That doesn't make sense. In my opinion, it shouldn't be the member (as an individual) that you oppose, but the content of his or her post. If you put someone on 'Ignore', you might miss perfectly fine and valuable contributions of that member. If you are really convinced that someone does not have valuable contributions at all though, you can simply ignore his her her posts by not reading them, as I said above.
Roger5 1 | 1,446
29 Nov 2015 #49
How can you challenge these posters when you ignore them?

What I mean is that one or two posters on here seem to be on a mission to spread hatred. I try to ignore them, but it's easy to get sucked into their nonsense. I should have more self-discipline, I know.
Chemikiem
29 Nov 2015 #50
I know what you mean Roger because I feel the same myself.

I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think the ignore button worked too well anyway. As I understand it, if a person you wanted to ignore started a thread, you wouldn't see this if you had them on ignore, but you would see other members' responses to whatever that person quoted. Plus I think that if the ignored persons' posts were moved to the bin, then you would see them. It wasn't possible to ignore them from all parts of the forum. The mods might know more than me regarding this, but I don't think there were any plans to bring it back.
WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
2 Sep 2017 #51
Merged:

Quoting people



I can't be the only one frustrated by this.

The quoting system is seriously messed up and it makes it very difficult to figure out who said what. I mean, it can be done, but it makes it a lot more work.

Yesterday I quoted Jon and Gumish in a post about Wiadomosci not being as popular these days, and now for some unexplained reason it has changed it has me as quoting delph, twice.

Of course it isn't just me, many other people are quoting people that didn't actually say the quote, through no fault of their own. The quoting system seems to have a mind of its own and attributed quotes to whoever it feels like.

Could this be fixed please?
Roger5 1 | 1,446
2 Sep 2017 #52
This happens on my smartphone but not on my home pc.
WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
2 Sep 2017 #53
It happens on my desktop Mac all the time.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
2 Sep 2017 #54
for some unexplained reason it has changed it has me as quoting

I've noticed a few times that quotes I make disappear from the final post. Anyone else have this happen?

Could this be fixed please?

You are obviously laboring under the misapprehension that the mods/owners give a sh|t.
gumishu 13 | 6,138
3 Sep 2017 #55
Anyone else have this happen?

often
jon357 74 | 22,060
3 Sep 2017 #56
If you quote the whole of the final text, the quote will not appear. Sensible, really, since it isn't necessary. If someone jumps in quickly and therefore your post doesn't make sense without a quote, just edit it.
Chemikiem
28 Dec 2017 #57
Could a mod/admin please clarify the exact number of quotes allowed in a post? I was under the impression that it was 3 and no more, but I notice that now this rule on quoting has very recently been added ( 4 days ago ) under the Rules/Privacy link, it now says that more than 2 quotes are considered excessive:-

13. It's not allowed to use excessive quotes (typically more than 2 quotes per message). If a message is long, 3 are fine, otherwise it's best to stick to 1 or 2.

So presumably posts which now contain 3 quotes will be whisked off to the bin? Don't you think that this thread would have been a better place to announce a change in the quoting rules rather than me discovering it only because I checked what had been written in reply to Zuitek in random chat?
WielkiPolak 56 | 1,007
28 Dec 2017 #58
It's stupid. You can't have more than a sentence or two in your quoted text and you can't have more than 2 quotes [apparently].

Sometimes somebody will make a lot of points in their post and you want to address all of them so you quote different parts of their texts to make clear what you are referring to. Sometimes there will be 4 or 5. Mods are making the forum worse and worse with these limiting rules.
Chemikiem
28 Dec 2017 #59
somebody will make a lot of points in their post and you want to address all of them so you quote different parts of their texts

Exactly. I can understand that tons of quotes look unsightly, but I find it gets confusing if I am reading unquoted comments because quite often I will have to scroll back up to find out what a poster was originally referring to. All that admin had to say about it to Zuitek was:- If you read the Notice about post scrolling.. the form doesn't require scrolling -it can be made sticky.

Smart readers know what you are referring to

When the reality is that it is a pain in the arse constantly having to scroll up and down to make sense of a conversation.In no way is this user friendly, plus now it appears that our quotes are to be further limited! Crazy.

I would also like to know if 3 quotes will now incur a warning. If your message is long and it does reasonably call for more than 2-3 quotes, you will not get a warning. Reasonable = No warning.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
28 Dec 2017 #60
I would also like to know if 3 quotes will now incur a warning.

It would be interesting to see a rational explanation for the limitations beyond 'google rankings!!!!!!'


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