Need Food And Clothes

Maintaining societies is the duty of us all.


Has this happened?

No country, including the US, wishes to be seen as simply a way station,
a pit stop along the highway to prosperity.

Poland's no exception.

Look at the countries they're coming from. In every country they arrive in they try to impose their own norms....

Why would they stop?

What do you mean ? What things bother you so much ? What are the values you care about so much ? I have 4 - rule of law, democracy, personal freedom and a free market. And they are all still standing - in fact I see far more of a challenge coming from right wing oddballs and quasi religious nuts than from migrants.

Really I am a pretty right wing person but this constant whinging about migration is a real turn off.

They build some mosques ? Big whoop - who cares ? Churches are still available for anyone who wants

They eat their own food ? Big whoop - I can get Polish food whenever I want and in France, Germany, Italy there are always loads of local food options

They listen to their own music, watch their own tv ? Again who cares

As long as they fit into our electoral and education systems and work then I am generally OK with it. Certainly tired of the old white moaners using this issue to hijack almost every other debate.

Indeed, no narrow-minded morons like you.

Haaaaaa, Haaaaaaa.Golden Moron do kwadratu.

Civil society (quick over-simplified definition: "the elements such as freedom of speech, an independent judiciary, etc, that make up a democratic society"

Equality between the sexes

Equality before the law

Separation of church and state

Freedom of Expression

Secular education

Low crime and effective police

The migrants flooding into Europe at present have major gaps in some or most of those areas... and do not respect those values and want to impose their own

Hierarchical relations betwen the sexes (and minimal participation of women in public life), rights by religion, legal norms by religion, restrictions on free expression (blasphemy laws) and the crime rate of migrants are off the charts compared to the indigenous peoples of Europe.

You're okay with Rotherham?

Non-western migrants in Europe commit rape at 580 % the rate of the original populations?

You're okay with that?

Just because it hasn't affected you yet doesn't mean it won't....

We haven't heard from the guy for about a week, so either he was caught by the Border Guards/Police or already in Deutschland hat die Vorsehung ihn geborgen.

But in Poland all of those things exist and where they have been challenged it has been rather by Polish "patriots" than by migrants

And it is the same in all Europe's democracies. Except Britain where church and state have been combined for centuries

No I'm not in favor of rapists, Rotherham etc and someone needs to deal with it, but this migrant issue is dominating too much of our political processes, at the expense of more useful things, and letting all kinds of creeps and losers close to power bt playing on the fears of the old and resentful

You won't be able to explain it to a poor post-commie peasant who thinks he is great and knows everything because he managed to earn some money.

I've been following the story of non-western migration to Europe since before 2010... it's been a rolling disaster everywhere it's been established.


Exactly. But a lot of people think it's being dealt with when it isn't.

Poland is not affected yet partly because of the weak social benefit system and the fact that those who arrive are mostly here to work.

But how long will that be the case?

For who ?

Not for me - I have some inconsiderate migrant neighbors but apart from that I have made money and hired new people from the opportunities and I quite enjoy the more cosmopolitan Poland

Not for Poland - living standards and all economic measures have improved hugely since 2010

Rest of Europe - well it's patchy but doesn't feel disastrous.2010 we were told the Euro would collapse, followed by the EU. Neither has happened. Paris and London and Frankfurt have not burned down - they remain very in demand places to live and work

If you are a person who sees everything through a lens of discontent then probably it's a rolling disaster. Quite frankly i am getting sick of the grumpy old reactionaries moaning about this and making it a wedge issue

And that's very good, they will work for my pension.

Oh reeeeelllly?

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Many such cases.....

lol! I bet you did. It doesn't make you something that you are not. You remain a narrow-minded post commie peasant, but now you have some money.