Why do Poles come to England?

A lot of people must have collaborated with the Germans in World War 2, otherwise a small country like Germany could not have had the strength and effect that it did without considerable amounts of help. I have heard that the Poles themselves rid Poland of most of the Jews. It is always the same, a strong government comes to power and stays there by allowing biased people at home to get their way and/or their own back in return for supporting the new regime by being nasty and there are many nasty people in Poland.

" that the Poles themselves rid Poland of most of the Jews"
Now that is just offensive c r ap mate.......wtf maybe some did,turned on jews( how many jews in eastern Poland came rushing out to butt kiss the RKKA though when it marched in in 39?) maybe not,but considering it meant death to you,your family and all your neighbours if you were caught by the nazis hiding or helping a Jew the Poles couldsnt be to bad to have THE HIGHEST NUMBER AS RIGHTEOUS AMONG THE NATIONS.....oh dear.....

I stand by what I said about there being some trators and collaberators in Poland but I distance myself from Michals statments ....and lets get it over with VLASOVISTIES,now they were collaberators.....how many dozen "russian" divisions were there in the Heer again?

k.


No the truth as you see it is being questioned you arrogent individual,nothing to do with anyones honer,that can stand up and speak for itself without you chirping in wanting to cover things up.....

From where did you get these statistics? I think you will find that most of these people are not even Polish-perhaps their grandparents etc were (like AJ Graham said).

The reason so many Poles have come to the UK is because it is one of the best places in the world to live and work.

I think its already been established that those figures are for people of Polish decent rather than recent emigre's. 9 million too the usa in the last couple of years, I somehow doubt it.

What it points out though is Historicaly the Poles,as the Irish and Scots etc have travelled and settled around the world looking for a new life .

k

Ok lets all argue over facts and figures, the point is there are a lot of nationalities coming to the UK, whether your Polish, Lithuanian, Pakistani, Indian, Jamaican so on and so on.

There are plenty of reasons why people are coming to England. When i say this i'm not being arrogant or imperialist but the UK is one of the most popular places to go to due to the potential for success or quality of life.

Some people come here to escape from their own country, this could be for a number of reasons, their country is war ridden, they feel their life or the lives of their family are under threat in their country (for example, White Farmers in Zimbabwe)

Others come to the country so that they can support their families back in their home nation, usually because there are not enough jobs their or the pay is so low that they cannot afford to live normally.

Some people come here to avoid arrest or to start up a criminal act or acts, for example organised crime. (People and drugs trafficking)

So there are just a few reasons why people come to the UK, now on to the figures which people seem obsessed with, looking at that list of Poles living abroad. I could probably estimate that we would be third in the list behind Brazil. My point here is look at the size of the countries at the top of the list, Brazil, America, Canada, Germany, Argentina etc etc are all much larger than the UK yet we have so many migrants here. So if anybody has cause for concern it is us.

I have already shown my annoyance at the amount of migrants we allow into or on the British Isles, for our size we take in many many many more than we are required to by the EU. Its about time the Government took note on what people are saying and begin to get tough on the immigration rules, who they let in etc.

Of course crime is not the fault of the 'migrant' or even 'illegals' but those categories of people do not help. As this is a polish forum i will use Poland as an example, We have Polish 'prostitution rings' 'people traffickers' 'fraud' ie credit cards, money, paperwork etc etc, we already have our own criminals thank you very much we don't need the rest of the worlds either :).

Lastly i would like to reiterate my point from earlier and ask other people's opinions on 'illegal' immigrants, whether your from the US, UK, Poland or wherever, here in the UK i don't feel we do enough to kick these people out, in fact we do the opposite, while there sitting in the asylum housing their demanding HD TV's, Queens size beds and other top living facilities, while we have BRITISH people LEGALLY in the country on the streets, it just seems wrong to me.

thnx

T

You really are the most offensive uneducated human being it has ever been my misfortune to meet.

You twist facts, don;t read posts properly and write such offensive posts. I no longer understand why you are allowed to continue to post in a forum entitled 'Polish Forums'/ You are one very sick individual, you really are :(

innit ;)

My own feeling is that there is such a thing as good migration and bad migration.If people are decent or educated or highly skilled and like Britain they are welcome to come here to the UK and do the jobs which suffer employee shortages (IT workers,doctors etc).I don't care where they come from.If illegal immigrants/asylum seekers commit crimes they should be imprisoned and then obviously deported.If legal migrants come here and don't repect the laws or hate Britain and the British they should just go back to where they came from.Unskilled migrants should come to Britain to do jobs only after the government has forced the lazy unskilled British scroungers to get off their backsides and work for their money instead of living off the taxes of both British and migrant workers.

I enjoy the atmosphere and contributions of migrants in successful multicultural parts of Britain.I like the fact I can go to a Polish shop,Indian shop,Carribean shop-even in some small towns and supermarkets sell food from all countries.I like the vibrancy of multicultural festivals - I can enjoy these things locally instead of travelling thousands of miles.

forget imprisoning them here and costing us money, kick them out straight away!!!


totally agree :)


yes they can get back on the plane, ferry, train or bust they came here on and go straight back home.


don't even let them in, Australia has shown the way here :)


if you don't let the unskilled in these people will have to pull their weight and have no excuse not to get a job know that 'the migrants take the jobs' are no longer taking the jobs :)

Im sorry for any offense. The above is not a very nice thing to say. It goes against anything that is fair, decent and civilised. Don't you think? Where is the humility? I am not the person you think and there is a lot to be said if people actually beleive the above.


I am looking forward but only look back when provoked.


Also isthatu sorry for any offense. You say they call you Norman etc - why the interest/knowledge of this topic - if I assume you are not a Pole? Why is it your concern?

Have you been to Warsaw? Have you studied History of Poland? Do you know how it ticks?


It was in 1939 and 1944. 1945 was result of Roosevelt crapping on Poland. Churchill did not sell poland to Stalin.


These were Polish prisoners which were forced to fight with hitler - or die. They were not captured - they had already given themselves up by then. You see this is different. You made it sound like they enlisted by free will in your post.

No Pole collaborated with Hitler. If they did, they were forced to or they were germanic origin living in Poland already etc. Unfortunately this causes a grey area which adds to the confusion. There were many people fighting for hitler with Polish names. Confusing isnt it.


So was the Lublin Government controlling the US and Roosevelt then? Didn't know they were so powerful.

I'm not covering up anything.

isthatu - you have been a worthy apponent. It's been good debating with you. I have to go away for a while.

One last thing - you are so lucky not to have been born in Poland.

To infinity and beyond...

freudian slip...?

lol, yeah maybe some people do arrive on womens chests but i haven't seem them yet, a little slip of the finger there i think :)

Look forward to our next meeting,trust me, Itry to stand shoulder to shoulder so to speak with Poland.
Yes ,I visited Warsaw,specifically to study the Uprising, I stayed with the family of a Mokatow insurgent who I met and absolutly adore,a lovely lady .

No,Im no expert on the subject but as you may have guesed Im am definatly fascinated by it and to be honest am learning Polish specifically so I can get my hands on more information :) (that and so when I take up the invitaion I have to take part in one of the "rekonstrucja Powstanie Warszawskie" I will not let the guys down)

I shall pm you a link to another site mate where maybe you can see how deep my interest and respect lies.

"many people fighting for hitler with Polish names. Confusing isnt it. "
er,you can say that again,and come to think of it,what about Gen' Rommal....no the Polish one :)
"You made it sound like they enlisted by free will in your post."
crikey,I hope not,no, no free will involved and all at the first opertunity "ran away" to join up with the Free Polish forces.

"Have you studied History of Poland? Do you know how it ticks?"
lol,yes Im studying it but,knowing how it ticks,thats going to take a life time ;)

all the best ogorek
k.

All the best isthatu. If you need any more grenades in the "rekonstrucja Powstanie Warszawskie" just whistle. I'm be right behind you, mopping up the Gerries you deck.

Their home countries would not imprison them for crimes committed in Britain.It would be better that they are punished first before being sent back.


3 years ago there were 1.5 million unskilled/semi skilled jobs available and no migrants to do them.Lazy scroungers prefered collecting their dole money rather than take those jobs.On that occasion the Poles etc came to the rescue.The govt needs to come down hard on British shirkers.


Rubbish.The original Australians are the Aborigines and there are now many migrants from SE Asia.In time Australia will become multicultural like Britain.

Oh yes, how dare Australia have a majority white population. We must make sure those damn racist Aussies embrace the righteousness of multiculturalism. We will force it upon them like we done so in Europe and America. And anyone who resists will be branded a Nazi terrorist and sent to prison for 25 years!

Lol, I think Australia is big enough for everyone........such a vast continent.

What is up with some people.........we're all the same . Like we are all part of the same race........It's called the 'HUMAN RACE'

I wonder what the aborigines think?

I'm sure there is some information about how the World will be just full of 'Brown' people in the future as we all merge and mix.........can't remember how far into the future the report stated. but it appeared to be a reasonable report.

I think it's good. No more racism about colour then.......but being 'human' I'm sure someone, somewhere will find something else to be racist about :(

I'll have to see if i can dig that report out off the net.........

Yes, the entire Anglo-Celtic race are lazy layabouts. It must of been those new immigrants who invented the industrial revolution. It must of been those new immigrants who created the massive empire. It must of been those new immigrants who ruled the waves for more than 100 years. Oh yes, how would us Brits survive without the Poles, Pakis, Indians and ect?

You call yourself a trueBrit when you sound like the common unpatriotic self-hating liberal moron. No offence.


No. We've evolved into are own unique people in which we have diffrent cultures,looks and beliefs, and that's what makes the world more interesting. Are the Japanese the same as the French. Just because they both have two arms, two legs, and a head, it doesn't mean that i would like to see Japan being turned into another France.

This is why i hate globalism and any other form of internationalism. Because you are basically replacing native populations with another. It's nothing more than legal genocide!. You would of thought that the world would of learned from past mistakes.

However you 'cloak' it or deny it......you cannot get away from the fact that we all belong to the same race........THE HUMAN RACE.

The only difference is that we have been born, raised and educated in different geographical places. This then affects our creed, beliefs and inherited traits about a wide range of issues. It takes a wise person to be able to see past all that. Some can, some can't......

But at the end of the day you are exactly the same race as any other human being on this planet, whether you like it or not.

:(

I am a true patriotic Brit - unlike your confused self.Learn some British history - why do you think there are so many "immigrants" in Britain? Could it be something to do with the fact that for 400 years Britain had the biggest empire the world has ever seen?

I love Britain - if you hate it so much go to your Australian paradise.

The majority of immigrants came to England as a result of world war 2. Years of fighting our German brothers left this country in a weakened state. And allegedly there was a labour shortage at the time. Still, if Mosely had come to power we wouldn't be in this dire situation now. Those 700,000 Brits who died in the war would of lived on to have children.

As for me hating England, i do not. England is my ancestral homeland. And i am both English by blood and by the grace of god, not by signing some citizenship form. The only hatred i have is for those who wish to destroy this once great country such as the likes of Ken Livingstone, Tony Blair, and basically people like you who seem to love putting foreign interests before that of their own nations and it's WHITE indigenous people!

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A guy at work said he came here and won't go back because for the first time he has some money to spend on himself.

Another guy said that here he has a much easier way of life.

Had I these reasons, I would move country too. It must be difficult, I know I would find it so...

those same "brothers" that bombed coventry london sheffield portsmouth dover etc etc etc.......
and more pants from the fasch'
"Still, if Mosely had come to power we wouldn't be in this dire situation now. Those 700,000 Brits who died in the war would of lived on to have children."

Mosley was a opportunitist, and rightly ended up in jail for 2 years,then released mid war because he was seen as a pathetic little man who only attracted shell shocked WW1 veterns and a few jew bashers from the east end. Just when would he have come to power? Sorry would that be when Chamberlin resigned and Churchil took over,9 months after the start of the war against YOUR(not any bugger elkses you traitor) arayn brothers in the wehrmacht. And not to quibble over figures but it was 350.000 not 700.000.

Basicaly,what you and your bone head bnp/blut und ehre tribe is a bunch of cowardly traitors to this country,saluting the hooked cross and boogieing on down to "nazi" rock in grubby council estate pubs or crappy little marquees in feilds....

You speak for nobody but the ill educated minority,the same bread of TRAITORS that signed up for the BFK,and even then there were only 50odd of them.......

k

ps,Poles come to England to meet refined educated people who like nazis and faschists........NOT


with pistols against tigers.......:)

well said

ta....ggrrr. Im sick to the back teeth of C18 types claiming to speak for me.

me too, especially when they spray grafitti on the flats where you live, I hate them with a passion.

I hate teh way they jump on the bandwagon to promote their sick beliefs

best thing is though daisy, 9 out of 10 times the retards cant even paint the swastika the right way round :)