Why do Poles come to England?

Your not with it at all are you Witek?.....The Poles who live in these countries have been there for decades and in some cases Centuries!! They are in many cases part of the Country.....There is a big difference between that kind of immigration and having 750,000 Poles arrive on your door step carrying there suite cases!! Its like saying half of all Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders etc are British!.....The British emigrated to those Countries, but they see themselves now as being Australian, Canandian and New Zealand etc!!!....The huge numberes of Poles who live in Britain still see themselves as Poles!......You understand what i'm saying??

Kick them out and bring more Pakistanis and Nigerians.

.... and replace them with nobody so there is more room in th UK, i'm not talking about poles i'm talking about illegals :)

thats some rent you could make there..lets see,£65.00 per week x 750.000...........,your blessed with such an opartunity :)

uuuhhh maybe not, there are plenty of houses that are packed full of polish who do not pay for their tax, rent etc :) so those figures are rubbished now aren't they :)

wow mate,sense of humor bypass or what! Who on earth could seriously think he has a house where he can charge 750.000 people rent? Are you nuts? .....sorry If Im losing something in translation though,is english maybe a second language to you?

no mate nothing like that, use your noggin and come to the part that says, i'm using my common sense. Of course i'm not saying 750,000 in one house. I'm talking about the cases where there are 18 people in a two bedroom house, for example :)

looks like your job hauling petrol is in jeapordy as many of those 750,000 Poles will be better drivers and do your job better and for less $$$.

Well said Tornado2007!!.......Bastards!!.....

Why has the UK been left off those lists?
Where are we on the league table?

Most Migrants here can't even drive cars according to the local Police....Anyway because of the saftey aspect to it you have to speak English well which rules you lot out.....You would end blowing the refineries up!!.........Poles here just do what most are good at. Picking strawberries and cleaning toilets!

This is a really an old fashioned statement. I'm sure there are plenty of students who try to make an extra pound or two during the summer doing just that, but it's not a profession of people who who may have moved to UK to settle there...You see, I also enjoy strawberries picked in California by Mexican immigrants, that's why i pay $1.79 a pound and not a double of triple of that. So, just enjoy the cheaper strawberries.

Clean toilet make a nicer smelling bathroom too. Wouldn't you say? Or, do you prefer a dried out crust of crap around your toilet? :)

Thats not any dishonour, only laziness is .. thats why one day there may be a huge mosk or pagoda, in place of big ben.

Regards

Said a truck driver. Dude, you are an intellectual dwarf and dare criticize others ? Hillarious.

I like the bit where hes writing in English to replys in English and then says "you lot " cant speak English.....what a numpty :)

That's because Australia feels more British than what multicultural Britain is. Australians like to preserve their Anglo-Celtic heritage and culture, unlike those in the fatherland who would rather act like a bunch of Afro-American yanks with all the hip hop, ghettos, fast food and other shite. So it's not realy suprising that many young Englishmen would rather settle down in Oz.

New Labour's Britain = pance!

Anglo -Celtic heritage, my a r se.....wouldnt that be Aborigional Heritage? Or are you conveniantly forgeting 200 years of ethnic cleansing?
With a tag like " Crusader" I think we know where your coming from you BNP hitler worshiping bit of white trash. You call yourself a patriot then spend all your energy saying how terrible this country and its people are.

Pick up a few history books,get rid of the doc martins and bomber jacket and your more than welcome in this country,if not ,why dont you f off to austria or someother arayn paradise.

pance ?? or is that 'pants'.

haha, youll get a hiding from the black fellas down there with that kinda ******* attitude.

PS: the white aussies wont help ya either you fool, they all hate POMS

Well spotted Isthatu....my mistake....I don't think it will bring the roof crashing in some how!!

I couldn't care less about aboriginal slaughter as i personally played no part of it, so it ain't my problem. As for white trash, do you mean trash such as Ken Livingstone, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown all of those other Zionists and hippies who love globalism,multiCULTuralism, and imperialism. It's these traitors that make my country S**T. And i know my ancestors would love to of gave them a good kicking for their ultimate betrayal.

It's only a matter of time before the BNP gets in power. And once they do, bye bye EU, and bye bye immigration.

You reds and your immigrant pets just need to understand that Britain is NOT for sale!!!

no, but you can have a long term rental agreement if you want

So it's bad of me to feel sad and upset about Polish people saying and writing very negative and sarcastic things about their homeland?

I don't at all mind Poles going to whatever country they wish, and living or working there. But I do feel offended when they arrive and immediately start criticising Poland and whining about how terrible it is there, while at the same time

1) not learning any English and relying on free interpreters provided for them by the British taxpayer, showing no interest in the British way of life, history, culture,

2) going back to Poland for any major operation or dental treatment (a bit inconsistent with remarks about 'terrible Poland', isn't it?) and, simultaneously
3) making snide remarks about the UK and it 'dumb' inhabitants (that's where my remark about being full of themselves kicks in).

I just wish Poles would be able to go abroad, live and work there, and yet remember where they came from, and take pride in it. I wish they realized that Poland is a big country located smack in the middle of Europe and with lots of achievements to its name, no better but definitely not worse than any other European country. Yeah, that's just about it.

If you still don't understand, it's probably because as Puzzler said I'm a Polish half-caste who shouldn't be allowed out of her cage. ;-p

so if I'm walking down the street and I see you getting your head kicked in, I won't bother phoning the police or the ambulance, cos I played no part in it, so it ain't my problem

Note* Sorry everyone else who is on topic. I don't like to say these things because it's not necessary. I only say them when the honour and integrity of war time Poland is questioned:)


Just saying you were favouring the soviet story of events. Don't get the Warsaw pact bit - please expand


Now that is patronizing. I get the impression you THINK you know more than others.


The first one I didn't say - what does that mean?
Yes I called you a child because you talk about things which to some people are sacred and any other mature person would skirt around and not seek to undermine, when it is really none of your concern in the first place.


This is not unique. It's interesting because it 's 100% relevant to our discussion - particularly when it come to providing accurate information when you occassionally struggle to do so.


Maybe before 1920 when half of Poland was ruled and oppressed by Germany. After 1920 not likely - they were glad to break free. Also there were no known Polish collaborators in WWII


There you go again trying to take the heat of UK. It was the UK that organised the deal. Poland asked UK for help and UK kindly said yes because it was the right thing to do. France agreed to be part of it. France had the largest army and so was the biggest dissapointment. Of course you know that the first man to commit suicide of the Warsaw Stalin Tower was French - because it was a more honourable place to die than the Eiffel Tower.


You probably missed this while leafing through your documents. The UK did this in good faith to make up for their betrayal. The UK government was man enough to admit what they did. Unlike you.


The US gave UK tanks and guns to use after UK left all it's stuff in France after Dunkirk. UK Navey RULED. Britain then kicked Gerry *ss.


Wikipedia gives access to people who know what they are talking about - to chronicle world events etc and funilly enough tell the truth. Their comments, if untrue can be edited/corrected by others. It is updated and monitored. Remember - most history you read in books is propaganda led. Other traditional sources of info still maintain that Polish cavalry charged German tanks - and that William the Conquerer was French.


Norman - you have access to lots of historical information. Some true - some false. It's your responsibility to find the truth and base your comments on that. But that is not always desirable becuase sometimes the truth is disturbing - at worst inconvenient.


Lol

wonderful opportunity to point out that all is fair in love and war

if anyone feels hard done by, sod em

Nice one. Next time something bad happens to you - I'll be the first to remind you of that. Have a nice day:)

if thats the sort of person you are ogorek then theres not alot left to say...

but remember, the polish a well advised to look to the future, not the past

They do not come to England necessarily in an educated capacity. Cleaners can clean knowing Arabic, they come to earn money as there are few opportunities back home. I have heard that there is work in Poland but for almost no pay.

ogorek,your a lost cause mate,you claim Im biased to one side yet your blind to anything on "your" side that doesnt fit what you like to hear.

For a start, yes,in the UK most people have not even heard of the 44 warsaw uprising and most think it has something to do with the ghetto, fact, if thats not super news for you,sorry,cant be helped.

The "warsaw pact" bit,as you jolly well nknow is in reference to the USSR and its armed Communist allies,the Warsaw Pact, who had Nuke's pointed at me ,why would I have any red bias to buggers who would have vapourised us in an instent.( yes,I know the Polish forces probably would have turned and fought the Soviets once the shooting started but..)

You call me imature for debating history yet you want to cover things up,why,what is there to be ashamed of,like you say,cant be judged if you wernt there.As neither of us was I have as much right to look into this part of history as you. non of my concern,wtf do you know about "my concern?

Lol,you seriously think no Poles were ever in the german army,your off your head mate,hundreds were captured near the Normandy beaches for a start, maybe in old commie propaganda it never happened,but,it did and is far more commen than you'd think.

So you think "the truth" in history can be disturbing and should be covered up? wow,thats mature,cover up like holocaust denial etc? History is only valid as a search for truth and "uncomfortable" bits should never be covered up full stop.

" Also there were no known Polish collaborators in WWII"
is the biggest pile of steaming do do Ive heard from you yet.....See POLITYKA 25 sierpnia Nr34 and then tell me no Poles collaberated. Yes there was no such thing as a Polish ss division blah blah but certainly plenty did collaberate ,if they didnt,why did K diw have Hit squads dedicated to shooting traitors and collaberators. Might be uncomfortable stuff but Im afraid,for anyone to take you seriously you need to get upto date with the FACTS as they are,not as you wish they were.

Can I just ask though,beyond having two grandfathers,what makes you the historical expert,My grandfather was a Spitfire ace,doesnt mean I know how to fly a plane!

"You probably missed this while leafing through your documents. The UK did this in good faith to make up for their betrayal. The UK government was man enough to admit what they did. Unlike you. "

There you go again bleating on about betrayl,get over yourself........look at ALL the facts,I somehow doubt you will though prefering as you do cutting and pasting from wikipedia.....The only betrayl the British government is guilty of is not alowing the Free Polish forces in the Victory parade in 1946. I say again,what did you expect Britain to do in 1945,Invade f ing Soviet Russia? get real buddy,your country was sold down the river by the leaders of the Lublin government,somthing else you conveiniantly left out......if everything was such sweetness and light between all Poles,what was going on between 45 and 47?

I dont suppose you will take any of this in though, If you want a watered down diluted version of history where everything was black and white,fine by me,I stick by my first point though,to do so is to disrespect the memory of all involved in the mammoth struggle against faschists( you know,the people who like hushing up inconveniant bits of history)

k.