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English people attitude towards Poles?


Cornelius  
5 Sep 2006 /  #151
Since these 4 years my impression is that England is getting more and more crowdy. It is not only polish it is emigration in general. When I go to town on saturday morning I struggle to hear english language on the street. I could believe that English people can feel sometimes intimidated in their own country.

I wouldn't say intimidated, but sometimes a little outnumbered and when you are in your native country its a strange feeling!! Its also frustrating sometimes, I got irritated the other day cos I was in a supermarket and had to talk to five different people before I found someone who could speak English. The other thing is that the country has changed so dramatically since it became so diverse, unfortunately, in many ways for the worse. A "community" is a rare thing to find these days in England and its sad to see, it was a different world on this island when i was a lad. With the introduction of so many different cultures and so many people who do not see England as home has come a failure to recognise "shared values" that hold our communities and society together. I am not a professor in sociology and haven't access to sufficient research material to say whether this is primarily due to immigration or not. I can see how people make the link between the two however as both immigration (without adequate integration, as immigration itself is a GOOD thing) and social degradation have both gathered pace over the last ten years.

I want to stress that I am not against immigration, I am in favour of managed immigration and implementation of comprehensive integration strategies, which is common sense and something most immigrants would agree with. My wife is an immigrant and does nothing but contribute to this country and has more place here than a born and bred Englishman who claims the dole!!!

But as your government opened borders..... I also understand polish people lots of them will come back no doubts about it. Most of my friends have good jobs in Poland and they come here only on holidays. But I can understand people who lost jobs, young people who just started life that they are attracted to England as it is still easy to find work and value if pound is high. It is main attarction economical stability and value of money.

Its Tony Bliars fault, if there was a clear control and strategy for management of EU accession then people would be able to look upon it as something other than a door being thrown open to a call of "come one, come all!". The massive numbers and total lack of control is what is providing so much fuel for discomfort and objection amongst the English.

Its totally understandable for Polish people to want to come here. If England had such a high level of unemployment Poland would be full of us by now!! Polish people are doing what any of us would do in the came circumstances.
rafik 18 | 589  
5 Sep 2006 /  #152
Well i'm from brazil but my mom is norweign.
I'm here on highly skilled migration programme ( HSMP VISA)

I know my english is not good enough but i'm professional in what i do ( software Engineer). One doesn't need business or advanced english to be a software engineer

There is no problem in learning. I like many others learning english. And i don't blame anyone who criticize me cuz of my my english. You guys should

lol i was waiting for such a brit-to-be to write here.
i can tell you then my brasilian-english friend.before you start sayings something -THINK TWICE.you came from brasil,a poor,coruptious and crime ridden country.in the UK there are hundreds of thousand or possibly a few million of illegal immigrants from your country.they all (or 99%) work for shit wages without contracts on fake portugese,spanish and italian passports,fake student visas.the funny thing is that every employer knows that tey are fake but still employ them cos they work for as little as 3£/hour.even though you have your fake passports you still pretend not to be from brasil or how many times i heard "my dad,grand dad uncle bla bla bla is from portugal,italy spain.you are pathetic!!!!the porugese guys hate you for this.you also live in closed communities not 10 but 20 people in one house. in my work place someone said as a joke that the home office officers will pay us a visit and next day most of brasilians didn't come to work!!!!i bet they shit their pants whenever they hear these words.all brasilians are so mean that it makes me sick.some of them bring some old pizzas as a lot of them work in pizza stores.look at yourself you are one of them-the same arse licking pathetic brasilian and don't think you are a brit because you have right to stay here.you are even more pathetic than your country men with old pizzas in their pockets
iwona 12 | 542  
5 Sep 2006 /  #153
Rafik,

But he said so many times that he was on Higher Skilled migration VISA

He just feel to be much better I guess:)
rafik 18 | 589  
5 Sep 2006 /  #154
exactly! they always feel better than their countrymen if they have let's say better job or stay here legally.this is very brasilian.i see it every day:)
Bulldog  
5 Sep 2006 /  #155
THINK TWICE.you came from brasil,a poor,coruptious and crime ridden country.in the UK there are hundreds of thousand or possibly a few million of illegal immigrants from your country.they all (or 99%) work for shit wages without contracts on fake portugese,spanish and italian passports,fake student visas

British peoples never face any problem with us. Have your ever heard any where in the NEWS problem with us. NO you can't show us that.

Poland is not only part of EU that joined recently there many other countries but i'm not talking against other countries except polish.

You ( polish) are making all trouble.

1. One in seven homeless are from poland

A small but significant number of Eastern Europeans (otherwise known as A8 nationals) are turning to London’s homelessness services for help, according to new research published by Homeless Link.

2. The Home Office says they are "making few demands on our welfare system".

As well as those claiming child benefit, 680 people were told they could get income-related benefits.

3. Former Labour minister Frank Field the number of migrants was unmanageable and made it increasingly difficult for local people to get jobs.

Like everyone i agree that Mr. blair created all problem for us. So next time please don't VOTE for Mr. Blair. He must go now......

MIGRATION NUMBERS
rafik 18 | 589  
5 Sep 2006 /  #156
British peoples never face any problem with us. Have your ever heard any where in the NEWS problem with us. NO you can't show us that.

you are so scared to be deported that you never get out of your crowded shit holes.can you give me some information of how many poles broke the law and has been arrested?

part of EU that joined recently

yep and we are going to kick you out of the british labour market.i am sure of that.most of you DO NOT speak a word of english and you are lazy

1. One in seven homeless are from poland

EVIDENCE please

A small but significant

what does it mean? 100, 200??? out of 750000 here?you are so funny

2. The Home Office says they are "making few demands on our welfare system".

which means "very little".read what you want to send before you send it cos it make you look like a fool

As well as those claiming child benefit, 680 people were told they could get income-related benefits.

maybe because they are entitled to them,are you jealous?

difficult for local people to get jobs

you are so funny...again

Mr. blair created all problem for us.

hahahahahaha.problem for US!!!! you don't even have the british passport yet!!!!!!!
jesus christ,you are more british than the brits are. when you get it and meet your brother in tyhe street you will say"fuck off you dirty brasilian.i don't know you, i am BRITISH".

peace upon you
amen
Bulldog  
5 Sep 2006 /  #157
jesus christ,you are more british than the brits are. when you get it and meet your brother in tyhe street you will say"fuck off you dirty brasilian.i don't know you, i am BRITISH".

Oi no swearing here ok? Mr. rafiq what you think of yourself? I love brazil, norway and britain. You polish peoples can say that to your brother not us. I don't know where you live but in UK ask any british peoples regarding polish peoples and you would get the real answer.

Everything was under control before polish joined EU in 2004. No one ever complained about EU migration.

Can anyone tell me the polish population now in poland? I guess almost half of them now in UK.
hello  
5 Sep 2006 /  #158
Can anyone tell me the polish population now in poland?

My real estimate is about 34 millions (used to be a few millions more before Poland joined the EU) he he
iwona 12 | 542  
6 Sep 2006 /  #159
British peoples never face any problem with us. Have your ever heard any where in the NEWS problem with us. NO you can't show us that.

What is the point of comparison?

Britaun never opened border for you so how many illegal immigrant can come here form Brazil....sorry I forgot about yoy on SPECIAL TREATMENT VISA.

You ( polish) are making all trouble.

Really?
Quite childlish and full, of prejudice attitude.

I don't know where you live but in UK ask any british peoples regarding polish peoples and you would get the real answer

really? I never heard any nasty or racist comments except this forum.
Shelley  
6 Sep 2006 /  #160
I'm still trying to get my head round why the hell we would let some brazilian in - does he play football as well as having his special visa????? and btw we have plenty of skilled people in this country and as for asking the average british person what they think of the Polish people some will say they like them and some will say they think that there might be a few too many in the UK.

If asked - what do you think of Brazilians - they'd probably say - keepem out dirty 3rd world poverty stricken with AIDS.
Decorator 4 | 291  
6 Sep 2006 /  #161
Can't we keep Bulldog and deport Shelly ? the biggest racist in the forum..
coco  
6 Sep 2006 /  #162
traitor= double-crosser: a person who says one thing and does another

PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SHELLY. 100% sure she is polish-british or complete polish. She talk like traitor. How come you love another country more then your own homeland. There is something wrong with you. Please consult your GP

She need to be deported to poland as decorator mentioned.
Decorator 4 | 291  
6 Sep 2006 /  #163
Nah i wouldn't do that, she's ok really , i'd miss our friendly banter...!!
krysia 23 | 3,058  
6 Sep 2006 /  #164
we have plenty of skilled people in this country

Doesn't sound like a traitor to me. Sounds like someone who's defending her country.
In America there are a lot of Portugese, Brasilians, Cubans mostly in Florida, and the areas where thay live are labeled 'High crime", for some reason. They don't speak any english and there are constantly problems with the law.

Compare that with the Poles living in Chicago. I go there often, they have their Polish stores, businesses, they're clean, they work and try to accomplish something in life. There aren't any problems with them. The problem is with the ones who come into America illegally on boats at night and don't want to work.,
plg 17 | 263  
6 Sep 2006 /  #165
well said krysia babe

brazilain
Bulldog  
6 Sep 2006 /  #166
Guys i would like to tell you something. I said many things about polish peoples. But honestly from deep inside my mind i've no problem with polish peoples in UK. I'm kind of person who like to argue. so i came to this forum for that reason.

Another thing i know polish culture very well. how? Well because my lovely girl friend in polish and i love her so much.

I'm sorry to everyone for writting many negetive side of polish migration to Uk .

Please everyone forgive me........................... if you can

for now on i will writie positive of polish
plg 17 | 263  
6 Sep 2006 /  #167
ok your forgiven ale jaja!
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
7 Sep 2006 /  #168
traitor= double-crosser: a person who says one thing and does another

Yes, very nice definition, but what does it have to do with Shelley? :( How can you tell that she's not doing what she is saying? :(
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #169
100% sure she is polish-british or complete polish.

Wrong, English, French and Irish maybe but not even a smidgen of Polish

coco - please explain why I'm a traitor??? is it because I dont have issues with Polish people?????

She need to be deported to poland

Can I go and live in Krakow??? Very beautiful place, you must visit some day!
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #170
Why does some "pure" bristish think that english need to hate polish to be british. I suggest you should watch movie: American History X, maybe you will understand that besides war, racism is the worst thing that could happen to humanity.

But some people need hate like fresh air they love and need to moan, before polish there were chinese in England, british moaned, after polish tere will be romanian and bulgarian, british will moan, they will moan till the end of the world and that make them happy. sad people.
blur13  
7 Sep 2006 /  #171
Don't tar all of us with the same brush, ola.

I'm not raicst at all and don't hate anyone.

Except maybe Bryan Adams for inflicting that 14-week no.1 'curse' on us Brits - "Everything I do (I do it for you)."

:)
OP ola123  
7 Sep 2006 /  #172
Ok Im talkng about some british who post here and are extremely racist and full of hate. I find some english really cool people :).
Shelley  
7 Sep 2006 /  #173
Except maybe Bryan Adams for inflicting that 14-week no.1 'curse' on us Brits - "Everything I do (I do it for you)."

Yes, I remember it well, hummm bit hard to forget really
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
8 Sep 2006 /  #174
Guys I would like to tell you something. I said many things about polish peoples. But honestly from deep inside my mind I’ve no problem with polish peoples in UK. I'm kind of person who like to argue. so i came to this forum for that reason.

Personally Bulldog, I don't think you know sh!t. You came here when there were al lot of negative post regarding Poland and polish people, and now, when it seems that the situation cooled a little bit down (probably it will remain that way until another bad coverage about polish migrants), you are saying that you don't have any problem with us. It seems to me that you don't have your own mind, and you think what others think. It's quite sad.

Leave british peoples alone. They don't want anymore insects from EAST EUROPIAN countries.

I don't think your polish girlfriend would be very happy if she knew what did you call her.
blur13  
8 Sep 2006 /  #175
I think Matyjasz has a point here.

Isn't it usual to think your ex-boyfriend/girlfriend is a complete tosser after you've split up, not actually during the relationship? :)
Bulldog  
8 Sep 2006 /  #176
Matyjasz

Oh C'mon i was here just for fun never been serious. I know alot about polish culture. Let me say one thing who ever join or write in this forum have something to do with polish. either they are against polish, like polish, from poland, have relation with polish boy/girl.

I know wht i said was mistake. And i would never let my GF to see it and she would never know because i love her and i don't her feel dissapointed cuz of my comment.

Anyway guys, have fun as always... need to go now
freddy  
8 Sep 2006 /  #177
freddy may I ask what part of the country you live in??

i live in nottinghamshire .

Well i'm from brazil but my mom is norweign.

i have family in norway ,my uncle married a norwegian even they are fed up with the poles entering norway .

I understand what you are saying, but how can someone who is on a visa comment on the economics of my country??

he seems to realise theres a problem here in britain ,and the sooner the british wake up and realise this the better. Why you hate pakis so much when its the polish that are causing more problems.
truebrit 3 | 196  
8 Sep 2006 /  #178
Actually,judging from his written English I would say that 'Bulldog' is actually not English/British but possibly Polish himself.
Shelley  
8 Sep 2006 /  #179
truebrit - he's from Brazil on a special students visa! oh and he's getting british citizenship!
Decorator 4 | 291  
8 Sep 2006 /  #180
I think if Bulldog is man enough to say he's sorry for offending anyone i think we should accept that. All of us say and do things we regret sometimes...

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