English people attitude towards Poles?

I'm not paki and i'm not muslim but i would still prefer them then those europian.

Especially living on benefits, in closed areas don't asimiliting in UK even don't bother to speak English.

it is not very logical what you say.

What about polish emigration after war? next generation is british you can't distinquish them. The same will happen with next geberation of polish who decide to stay here.

And pregnant women coming here? Sorry people are people it is gqp in your law and they take advantage of it .
Why don't you blame your overgenerous with public money Blair or Prescott to busy to play golf and play with his women(:)

Buldog,

I think yoy also read quite much of daily mail.

bulldog - I don’t have a Polish boyfriend, so in fact you know very little "dogboy" and I am fully aware of my homeland - and I am fully aware of the home grown terrorists we have here at the moment that are threatening my safety, whilst I duly note your comments about jobs I can confirm that your job at McDonalds is safe, as most Polish people are skilled and probably wouldn’t want to work with retards like you.

Kind Regards

SSEF.

P.S.

Suggest you take some English lit / lang classes at night school, this may help you overcome you inability to write.


I wasn't aware the Times had colour pictures in it??

So has it now become acceptable to call Pakistanis, Paki terrorists?? Shelley your such a sick bigot!! you are one of the most pathetic morons i have ever had the displeasure to read. I am a caucasian British male and these so called Paki's you refer to have as much right to be in the UK as you do. So to the Polish people in this forum who bemoan about people abusing them, where is the difference? So much for tolerance.!!

And Shelley you are the most illiterate English person on here, your spelling is useless.

Yes


You're too kind


Good for you


I don't think so


They work hard and don’t claim for every penny they can scrounge of my government, they don’t threaten my safety and they integrate.


Arh...it's a wonderful thing isn't it.


Now that's just a damn right lie, I would suggest you check your grammer in your last posting.

And just for the record Decorator your opinion means nothing to me.

TTFN

SSEF.

But it's nice that you have finally learnt how to spell my name correctly

I never Pull people on their grammar, unlike you... Bigot!

I'd rather be a bigot than a murdering paki terrorist or is your memory so short you forget about 9/11 and 7/7, not to mention the recent arrests!

I was working in London when the bombs went off last year, but unlike you i do not judge every Pakistani or Muslim as a terrorist. Small mindedness like yours only causes a bigger divide in communities. Muslims were killed too. It's called extremism and it's not something exclusive to one country!!

LOL! I never worked at McDonald's. Shelly if your boy friend is not polish why are you so in love with polish peoples and their country. If that true leave england and go to poland. Only peoples who love england allowed to live in UK. You know what is happening nowdays because of those pakis, polish peoples.

pakis are blowing everywhere and making life more harder and polish peoples stealing all public money indirectly ( benefit, health service & school).

Next time please everyone VOTE for BNP so that atleast original british peoples can live safely and have full freedom

If you don't love ENGLAND go away. No matter who you are.. Paki, indian, arab, polish, russian

I'm not english and i'm not asian but i like english peoples and england

So then what are you Bulldog???

bull crap all the poles round here are being set on in factories for half the price ,this causing job losses for our men ,who have fought long and hard over the decades for a decent wage ,now the poles come and take that away from them ,cos at the end of the day why is an employer gonna pay 8 quid an hour when the poles will do it for 5.50 .there is gonna be uproar in this country soon.


here here ,i think an hell of alot of people will be voting BNP .

I don't think that many will. They only gained 3 or 4 seats last time round, and I don't see that number increasing much. If their political stance is expressed with less vitriol and their arguments more convincingly put forward, then perhaps they may get a handful of extra votes come the next election.

But I'd lay a bet that a great deal of the British electorate see them for the racists that they seem to be.

the same like freddy here.

freddy may I ask what part of the country you live in??


Whilst I dont like Pakis, I wouldnt want the BNP in power


freddy - he's not even british! LOL

Well i'm from brazil but my mom is norweign.
I'm here on highly skilled migration programme ( HSMP VISA)

I know my english is not good enough but i'm professional in what i do ( software Engineer). One doesn't need business or advanced english to be a software engineer

There is no problem in learning. I like many others learning english. And i don't blame anyone who criticize me cuz of my my english. You guys should encourage me to improve.

I don't agree with your political/racial views bulldog, but your English is very good, so don't worry about not integrating lingually.

I find it unbelievable that someone from Brazil is slagging off Polish people, you're on a visa a guest in my country please dont tell me who I should like and who I shouldn't and above all don't tell me I should leave my country! - Give me the strength of ten tigers!!!!! the world had gone mad!!!

Shelley your aquiring a stutter!! :)

Shelley: WHY DO YOU LOVE POLAND THEN YOUR OWN COUNTRY WHERE YOU LIVE. You are educated young lady. Think what this so called EU will take your country into in near future. Think what will happen if Bulgaria & Romanian peoples also come here to work like polish peoples in large numbers.

You know SHELLY a huge growth in immigration from eastern Europe next year could put enormous pressure on Britain's education, health and welfare services, a leaked government report has warned. And because polish peoples working with low wages allowing more company, factories to employee polish worker. Its really not a good news for UK economy if we think in long term. Any idea guys where this may lead UK economic condition to? UK already suffered alot because of terroism & middle east oil crisis.

one more news.....Eastern European patients are also already "blocking" hospital beds because they are ineligible for social care and benefits if they leave, it claims.

Meanwhile, towns and cities where large numbers of new immigrants have settled are already demanding millions of pounds of extra money to cope.

The document, marked "restricted", is dated July 19, the day after Ms Ryan submitted another report saying that 45,000 "undesirable" criminal migrants from Poland and Bulgaria may settle in Britain next year.

The number of immigrants to Britain since Poland and seven other eastern European countries joined the EU two years ago is now estimated at 600,000. The government's original prediction was between 5,000 and 13,000 a year.

even Mr. Jack straw admitted that 374,555 from the eight nations - including 289,235 Poles - registered for work here between May 2004 and the end of july this year.

SOURCE:mymigration.net/uk/news


Sorry this report is back dates. may 2004-- aug 2005. so can you imagine 289,235 Poles in just one year. So how many now?????????????????????????

45,000 "undesirable" criminal migrants from Poland and Bulgaria may settle in Britain next year.

Why next year they could have done already?????

Whom do you blame for it? It is quite funny instead of putting pressure on government who opened borders for everyone it looks that all polish are guilty.

I think that with all this nasty attitude tension between polish and British will grow.

What about Brasil I think there are lots poor people there what if UK opened border for them? What would they do?

Just government needs shake that is all. It looks that England was quite happy before to invite polish doctors, dentist educated in Poland for polish funds

I understand what you are saying, but how can someone who is on a visa comment on the economics of my country??

The Polish people are buying their clothes over here, they are renting properties, they are paying NI and tax they are contributing as for wages dropping we have a minimum wage and if tradesmen have to be more competitive then so be it - it's a buyers market - for too long have tradesmen been over charging - as for what the papers say, they dont mention the chain imigration by pakis each year who come here and live off the system and demand more and more with each passing year.

I like the Polish because they're decent people who work hard and the few I know, I find them kind and genuine people. I have also visited Poland I can say - go see for yourself it's a beautiful place. Believe it or not they have cars and dont live on cabbage!!!

As for the Bulgarians - I think that we have learnt by the Polish coming over enmass to make the policies stricter, be thankfull it was the Polish that came first.

I was on VISA now but i'm


I was on Higher Skilled migration VISA before now i'm permanent resident here and soon will get citizenship.

UK NEED highly skilled peoples from other countries. Student from other countries can do the jobs that polish peoples doing now. But student are not entitled to receive benefit. So best idea to employee students then poor EU citizen who come here to work. Students don't claim benefit from the government but they still pay TAX to UK government.

bulldog you are foreigner in their country too and you want foreigners out so be first and leave , you are student so go and find the job, what is your problem you can work in UK and dont tell me you dont claim benefits, you of course dont go to the doctor or dentist. Amazing that one immigrant slaggs of another.

What do you think the Polish people are, they have more educated people than, lets say, Brazil - go to any of the major cities and see how many universities they have....take time to befriend a Polish person and you'll find that the conversation is more interesting than your average Jo - Politics, poetry, life, love.....etc etc....Hummm not East Enders!

OI i'm not a student here. I came here on HIGHER SKILL MIGRATION PROGRAMME ( HSMP VISA)

Since 28 January 2002, the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme has provided talented people with exceptional skills the opportunity to come to the UK to seek work.

UK NEED PEOPLES LIKE US BECAUSE THERE IS SHORTAGE OF BRITISH JOB SEEKER.

I don't mind polish doctors, engineers or highly educated peoples come to UK for work but as we see all most all polish peoples come here and work in place which a student can do too. pub, gardening, cleaning, factory, restaurant, bar? Oh c'mon give those jobs to students who already here.

Student atleast will save some public money ( child benefit, social be sick pay, education) because they can't claim benefit according to law and invest huge amount of money in your economy.

And we have history of students coming from all over the world never face problem. All the problem we facing nowdays is because of polish peoples. They are every where now.

All i can hear everywhere is polish, polish, polish.
C'mon guys don't come like ant in this country.

I'm now a permanent resident soon will get citizenship so i think now britain as my home country.

I'm not like SHELLY. she is british but she love POLAND more then her own country. Anyone can guess that.

Wakeup all british peoples before those polish take all your market, business & jobs.
I can really predict that future is not good for british peoples if those ( polish) peoples continuesly come here like ant......

RIGHT BULLDOG. tell them to go away.................................

What are you guys on? If alot of people vote BNP it will be an indictment of modern England and proof that the growing population of pikeys have become mobilised in the political world, which in my opinion, would mark the beginning of the end of England.

The BNP are a band of bigoted populist no hopers who would destroy our country if they were given any kind of significant power. Voting BNP certainly WOULD NOT mean "original British people" (is there such a thing?) could live in safety. By employing racists to run our country we would be far from safe and far from comfortable. If you have a problem with Polish immigration, then talk about what the cause of that problem is. The source of your gripe with the Poles is clear, the numbers that have arrived. Am I right? Yes, I thought so. Right, so who is responsible for the lack of management and control of the introduction to the Polish workforce? The British government! They are who you should be directing all this emotion towards, NOT the Poles and certainly not every other ethnic group that live on this little island of ours!!!


No EU? While the EU certainly have made a royal fuck up of almost everything they have got their hands on, what they HAVE done is given us better access to important energy routes from Asia and the middle east and greater influence in global policy making.

We should campaign for tigher control over the EU whip that is so regularly slapped across our arse as opposed to blindly rejecting it.

It's too late, pal. Should have thought about it a few years ago..

Bulldog, one of your main issues is the access of "non natives" to the welfare system. Do you not see that the system is the problem and treating the symptom will do nothing? If our benefits system did not reward laziness and acted as a springboard back into work as opposed to a comfort blanket to hide from it then the "undesirables" would be less inclined to come here. Why get angry about waving away wasps? Clean up the dollop of jam that attracts them!


Its not just Polish people who are accepting jobs that would have been available for an English person thirty years ago.

I called the accounts dept. of the FT today, they are in Manilla. For the price of one "me" they can employ thirty people over there.

Our jobs are being exported, again, not the fault of the people taking the jobs, its the government and large corporations (primarily the latter) that are making this happen!!!

There are so many people who are so intent on treating the symptom and don't even give a thought for the cause.

Wake up!!!

Right, so who is responsible for the lack of management and control of the introduction to the Polish workforce? The British government! They are who you should be directing all this emotion towards, NOT the Poles and certainly not every other ethnic group that live on this little island of ours!!!

First time I agree with you.

This all blaming polish,polish anly grow hostility and tension nothing positive comes out of it.

I ma polish but I came here 4 years ago had was granted permanent visa - had appointment with biritsh consul.
I live and work here but I am not br citizen.I could apply for british passport now as I am married to british person but I don't know if it is so necessary. In the end of the day I am polish.

Since these 4 years my impression is that England is getting more and more crowdy. It is not only polish it is emigration in general. When I go to town on saturday morning I struggle to hear english language on the street. I could believe that English people can feel sometimes intimidated in their own country.

But as your government opened borders..... I also understand polish people lots of them will come back no doubts about it. Most of my friends have good jobs in Poland and they come here only on holidays. But I can understand people who lost jobs, young people who just started life that they are attracted to England as it is still easy to find work and value if pound is high. It is main attarction economical stability and value of money.

Which was also precisely my point too... except you saved me typing it again..thank you both...:)