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English people attitude towards Poles?


BritishEmpire - | 148  
22 Nov 2009 /  #751
Yes but many see Paki as racist and that's the point.

I don't care how they see it, that doesn't make it racist because they don't like people shortening the word. I dont like the word pommie but the aussies think its fine to call me one, its only deemed racist in australia if it has abusive or foul language attached to it.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #752
Ah well, have it your way then. You know the connotation as well as I do.

It's the intent behind it, just like pommie.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
22 Nov 2009 /  #753
Its all about how its said and not about me having my way, i wouldn't mind aussies referring to me as a pommie if it wasn't always brought up in a situation that involved hatred.

Everyone i know refers to our local shop as "the paki shop" and there is no hatred in that whatsoever.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #754
Well yeah, we called it the paki shop too without any desire to be racist so I take your point. I'm just saying that a lot of people see it as offensive.

It's like when I say Polak, I don't mean any offence. Jestem Polak(iem) is Polish after all. However, nig*er is sth that I let only Blacks say.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
23 Nov 2009 /  #755
Yes i would agree with you that the word n*gg*r is racist because it can be said to any black person and doesn't refer to anything other than their skin colour.

If it wasn't for all the racial hatred that was directed towards pakistanis when they first came all those years ago then i doubt the word paki would be deemed racist or derogative.
Mister H 11 | 761  
23 Nov 2009 /  #756
If it wasn't for all the racial hatred that was directed towards pakistanis when they first came all those years ago then i doubt the word paki would be deemed racist or derogative.

That is a very big "if" thought isn't it ?

The P word was used in a nasty and racist way back in the day, so now it is seen as an offensive word with racial connotations.

We reap what we sow, the damage has been done.

Therefore I don't see why anyone would still want to be using it, let alone call the corner shop "The Paki Shop".
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
23 Nov 2009 /  #757
Therefore I don't see why anyone would still want to be using it, let alone call the corner shop "The Paki Shop".

Id say its quite offensive, since most corner shops are actually owned by Indians :D
BritishEmpire - | 148  
24 Nov 2009 /  #758
The P word was used in a nasty and racist way back in the day, so now it is seen as an offensive word with racial connotations.

Yes that is why, still i thinks its absolutely stupid to have classed the word paki as racist unless it was accompanied by abusive or foul language because it doesn't relate to colour or race, just nationality. A complete over reaction in an effort to please a group of people that at the time were not welcome or wanted in Britain, saying that with the current uproar over immigration isn't it just a little bit of history repeated?.

On that note would you let someone into your house that the rest of your family didn't like because i sure as hell wouldn't.

We reap what we sow, the damage has been done.

Well iam not being responsible for the actions of someone before me otherwise i would be hating every country in the world for the actions of their ancestors.

Therefore I don't see why anyone would still want to be using it, let alone call the corner shop "The Paki Shop".

Well you wouldn't Mister H because in my view you are ever so politically correct on these issues, as it was said before no hate was meant.

Id say its quite offensive, since most corner shops are actually owned by Indians :D

hehe nice one shellys :D
Mister H 11 | 761  
26 Nov 2009 /  #759
Well you wouldn't Mister H because in my view you are ever so politically correct on these issues, as it was said before no hate was meant.

I am not "ever so politically correct", in fact I loathe political correctness, however, I don't see being wise and a bit sensitive to people's feelings as being politically correct.

Why use a word you know might upset someone just because you don't actually intend to upset them ?

If you had grown up in a country where you often saw "Brits go home" painted in 10 foot high letters around the place, wouldn't you feel a little bit sensitive about the use of the word "Brit" ?

Id say its quite offensive, since most corner shops are actually owned by Indians :D

That's the other issue. Half the time, people use it not even knowing where the person they are directing it at is actually from.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
27 Nov 2009 /  #760
Why use a word you know might upset someone

Because they don't hear it.

If you had grown up in a country where you often saw "Brits go home" painted in 10 foot high letters around the place, wouldn't you feel a little bit sensitive about the use of the word "Brit" ?

No I would respect what the real people of that country wanted and go home.
Mister H 11 | 761  
3 Dec 2009 /  #761
Because they don't hear it.

Oh you say it behind their back! So brave!

No I would respect what the real people of that country wanted and go home.

You have a very one-dimentional view of things.

Do you approve of ANY sort of immigration ?

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