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English people attitude towards Poles?


Foreigner4 12 | 1,768  
22 Nov 2007 /  #691
One could argue that the the UK as a country (and people) benefitted from exploiting other lands for cneturies. True modern Englanders (is that the term) should not be blamed for this fact, nor should they take credit for others' deeds from the past mind you, however it does justify on a macro level this "invasion."

But when it's all said and done the ones to be pissed at are in government and are the employers in either society.

If I were English, I'd be thinking "how could the government sell our culture down the river like this?"

And if I were Polish, I'd be thinking "how can those ******** (in gov't and business) expect us to get by on 800zł a month? I have to go."

It's a brutal world but lets not blame the individual for the big picture. Yes we're all responsible for what you do or don't do, but we're not the policy makers and shouldn't be blamed for reacting to the policies government and business set up.
baird19  
30 Dec 2007 /  #692
GIVE THE POLES A RETURN TICKET. VOTE BNP. GET OUR COUNTRY BACK.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
31 Dec 2007 /  #693
U r gonna pay for that, r u?
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
1 Jan 2008 /  #694
GIVE THE POLES A RETURN TICKET

That would be a ticket that would see them home then back here again then......

VOTE BNP.

Yes,dont be tardy,be a smarty,go an vote for the nazi party......

GET OUR COUNTRY BACK

Why,has it drifted out to sea,I hadnt noticed as I thought I still had a country,maybe its just you baird,who are such an insignificant little worm that you have been overlooked somehow?
dtaylor 9 | 823  
1 Jan 2008 /  #695
GIVE THE POLES A RETURN TICKET.

yeah, ill vote for a 2 bit party with no idea's bar racist ones for them to tax me to give all immagrants my cash.... bnp, "a case of verbal diarrea"
DannyCool - | 1  
1 Jan 2008 /  #696
What is English people attitude towards Poles, I was reading that some people are unhappy to see many Poles over there and are hostility towards them but on the other hand they are respected too. So whats the truth? So far I thought English people are very friendly but after reading their discussion on one forum I was quite shocked how anti-polish they were.

It's just the opinion of a minority...which the media blow out of proportion!
lennyd  
2 Jan 2008 /  #697
It's just the opinion of a minority.

i think you'll find it's the voice of the silent majority, our immigration system is in absoloute shambles more and more indigneous people are leaving britain as a result of this open door policy
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 Jan 2008 /  #698
Brits travel quite freely around the world. We move to other countries for x number of years and use the health systems there. What's wrong with Poles doing it, as long as they pay their dues. They have some cheaper health care options so why not use them? It shouldn't be a quest to keep Britain wealthy.
lennyd  
2 Jan 2008 /  #699
no no seanus you fool you don't open your borders to a possible 500 million people with a small country like ours and i have no problem with people emigrating to the uk but 1.3 million in just 3 years is really straining our country to bursting point also lower brits will never get a pay rise due to cheap migrant labour they can't send money to poland to buy goods at a fraction of the price when they get minimum wage there is a lot more to it than saying why not just let poles in , many people feel that the EU is just one big joke on them ,yes poland may benefit from it by being a poor country but the EU hasn't done anything to help the overall native population of people living in england
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 Jan 2008 /  #700
Then what do you propose? The floodgates were opened quite a while back and employers are hiring many Poles. Contracts have been signed. OK, let's assume that I am against mass immigration, what can be done?
noimmigration  
2 Jan 2008 /  #701
Brits travel quite freely around the world. We move to other countries for x number of years and use the health systems there.

the number one reason that brits move to work abroad seanus is because britain INVESTS abroad.
the vast majority of brits who move abroad are proffesionals who move with british investment into other countries. they do not number hundreds of thousand and move to a country t clean toilets. the situation is completely differant
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 Jan 2008 /  #702
Well, you have a good point but many Poles are setting themselves up as doctors and dentists, professions that are generally admirable. The Brits like to invest with good capital behind them, that's true.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
2 Jan 2008 /  #703
Bleak prospects for UK job market
Workers leave factory
The CIPD estimates 150,000 people will lose their jobs in 2008
The outlook for the UK job market is at its worst for a decade, according to a report from an employment organisation.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7162733.stm

Seanus, you should read this article..
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
2 Jan 2008 /  #704
I've read it and it sends out mixed messages. Many people overspend and that's their choice, thay have to live with the consequences. I'd say Scots tend to budget better so the stats may apply to England more. No causal connection was established linking this economic downturn with the Poles. The job market, truth be known, was bad in 2001, filled with pathetic jobs, and that's b4 the Poles started to flock across in 2003/4
miss_bauer 1 | 4  
2 Jan 2008 /  #705
I haven't really read all the way through this forum topic, but I just think I should point out that no indiviual can take the stand point of a group of individuals...

We are past the 1950's when demographics such as women could be represented by one simple pamphlet handed out by the masses... Every one of us has an opinion, represented by ourselves, not by any group.

My individual opinion to the Poles (that I have met) is that they are good looking, charming, and considerate... And so far they are far more attractive than any english men I have ever met!

However, I am still young, and I have many dissapointments to come my way!!!
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
3 Jan 2008 /  #706
I've read it and it sends out mixed messages. Many people overspend and that's their choice, thay have to live with the consequences. I'd say Scots tend to budget better so the stats may apply to England more. No causal connection was established linking this economic downturn with the Poles. The job market, truth be known, was bad in 2001, filled with pathetic jobs, and that's b4 the Poles started to flock across in 2003/4

You really are not getting my point.....

And so far they are far more attractive than any english men I have ever met!

You need to get out more or maybe English men just dont find you attractive.
AvJoeUK  
3 Jan 2008 /  #707
I once met a Pole.
Buddy 7 | 167  
3 Jan 2008 /  #708
lower brits

Are these people of small stature or are you refering to the white working class?

Just by using the two words together you have shown that you obviously do not consider yourself one of them.
Lennyd/noimmigration this muppet show of tag team nonsense isn't working. "you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Your style, mentality and spelling give you away, deeply reminisent of a certain Manser character who trawled this forum a while back.

(Is that you Paul?)

Remember how you answer will tell me if I'm right or wrong.

Come on man, show me your hand.
anna23 - | 1  
15 Nov 2009 /  #709
I live in England and I don't know anybody who hates the Poles inparticular. I think there's a general view that people were afraid of mass immigration since Poland joined the EU, but most Poles have seen to be hard working and there's nothing nasty about them. Many supermarkets have even started selling Polish food brands. We had a shortage of NHS dentists in Britain as dentists started getting greedy and only doing private work, but my Polish dentist was the first National Health Service dentist we had for ages so I'm glad he moved here. I think people who make a fuss are stupid, as when England didn't have enough work for builders in the 1980s they all went to Germany to work. I would rather have Poles coming here than people from third world countries like Africa, as South London is full of them shooting each other and treating it like a jungle.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,019  
15 Nov 2009 /  #710
That's what I call an realist ;)
I like realists

GIVE THE POLES A RETURN TICKET. VOTE BNP. GET OUR COUNTRY BACK.

Ideologicly I would oppose any such behavior, but it's the same with Sionists in Pre-war Poland co-operating with Polish right-exremists.

Yes get the Poles back to Poland! Poland needs them ;)
anton888 - | 82  
15 Nov 2009 /  #711
Yes get the Poles back to Poland! Poland needs them ;)

Totally agreed. Always respect those who took the oppurtunity to try to find a better living condition, get a bit more experience than those who is just sitting and cry ppl come to their country and steal their jobs. As an employer, our policy is to recruit the person who can do the job best not nationality. However, the sad side of the story is that quite a big percentage of Poles who are serious to do something about their lifes left the country, and the crying ones or worst, those they think they can so much better than the job they are doing nowwithout understanding what is needed to take the position stay. Pls ask them to come back, there are always jobs for ppl who really want to work in PL.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
15 Nov 2009 /  #712
As an employer

Minimum wage employer, no less.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
16 Nov 2009 /  #713
nazi party

Well that depends who you listen to, i bet if the media went around saying they were all gay you would believe it. Yes some may be nazi supporters but i expect they are only there because of some of the policies and not because they really support the BNP.

It's just the opinion of a minority...which the media blow out of proportion!

Well iam sorry to burst your bubble but thats not true, the vast majority of people dislike polish people, the reasons vary but the polite and sometimes friendly person that you see at work for example will most likely harbour some dislike of polish people. It doesn't seem to be confined to working class either, i live in a middle class area and to be honest i've heard so many negative comments that i don't even discuss it anymore because i have heard it so many times before. That is something that i have never seen the media report on.

We move to other countries for x number of years and use the health systems there. What's wrong with Poles doing it

Its not quite the same, the countries that we move to don't have a welfare system that is as generous as ours. We also tend to move a fair amount of capital with us aswell, this is something that i have never known a polish person to do but i expect they do exist in small numbers.
Gercasty - | 3  
18 Nov 2009 /  #714
British Empire, who are you to say what the majority opinion of the British people is? I have never seen any poll to support your claim and I don't believe for a second that it's true. That the majority of British racists hate the Poles I have no doubt is true, however, I have enough faith in my fellow citizens to believe that the majority of Britons are not racist. In any case, immigration brings many benefits. If Britian had closed its doors to immigrants many centuries ago then I would guess that the majority of us – perhaps even your own family – would not be British now.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
18 Nov 2009 /  #715
In any case, immigration brings many benefits.

You've been listening to politicans too much chickadee!

If Britian had closed its doors to immigrants many centuries ago

Its not about closing the doors, its about being more selective.

would not be British now.

What do you think we would be? Are you suggesting we'd all be German?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,872  
18 Nov 2009 /  #716
In any case, immigration brings many benefits

tell that to the white working class who can't get jobs or council housing, as they watch every other nationality queue jump the housing register. And if they say A WORD about this, then they are "Racist" or "Lazy".
jonni 16 | 2,485  
18 Nov 2009 /  #717
as they watch every other nationality queue jump the housing register

Can you prove this sweeping (and suspect) assertion?

And if they say A WORD about this, then they are "Racist" or "Lazy".

According to whom? Again, an example please.
dnz 17 | 710  
18 Nov 2009 /  #718
I seriously used to think that poles were a nation of hard working dilligent and honest people till i moved here and discovered the half arsedness of their work, especially in the construction industry, I thought that the majority of people here would be honest when in reality they are simply trying to get one over on other people and continuously trying to rip people off.

Obviously not all but the quality of work done here is shocking and nowhere near up to British standards (and definitely nowhere near up to german standards)

People with an education are generally fantastic here, ie doctors, lawyers, and businessmen but the average man on the street seems to be trying to con someone out of something all the time.
derek trotter 10 | 203  
18 Nov 2009 /  #719
Just like an average chap in UK, I have never experienced 'bad look' from a middle class man but an ordinary people back me off many times. Pure class struggle and I am not a Marxist, oh definitely no.
jonni 16 | 2,485  
18 Nov 2009 /  #720
This seemed interesting:

Tesco doubles Polish food range as Polish exodus ends

Tesco has doubled the amount of Polish food it offers, after sales of products from the eastern European country started to rise for the first time in over a year.


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