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English people attitude towards Poles?


Nigel 1 | 71  
15 Oct 2007 /  #661
good post isthatu, you hit the nail on the head.I agree with all of that.
P.S Richard Branson(4bln in the bank) is a dyslexic so dont be concerned about your spelling.We get the point your making and thats enough for now.
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
15 Oct 2007 /  #662
moderator" since when has it been a moderators job to insult

Insult by saying "cry me a river"? Get a spine. I was stating 5the fact that it's tough out in the world and crying in a forum isn't going to help. Of course I don't know his situation, but I know what it's like to struggle.

I will have some strawberry picker

This is another name for what now?

It's rude to tell people to go home when they're just trying to make sth of themselves and I'm tired of seeing it in this forum.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
15 Oct 2007 /  #663
Insult by saying "cry me a river"? Get a spine.

I rest my case,you cannot post without insults,your words are all the arguement needed.

Quoting: isthatu
I will have some strawberry picker

This is another name for what now?

It is the only name for a strawberry picker.What else would it mean? You tell me?

It's rude to tell people to go home when they're just trying to make sth of themselves and I'm tired of seeing it in this forum.

Point out one instance where I have "told people to go home" ,go on,where ?
Are you resident in the UK? Do you have any first hand experiance of being resident in the UK in the last few months,or for that matter of being a citizen of the UK born and raised here?

If as I suspect you do not fill any of those I fail to see what constructive input you can have in this thread. A moderators duty is to ensure some form of fair play on a free forum,not to come on threads they have no connection to and insult people.,or am I mistalen there?
FISZ 24 | 2,116  
15 Oct 2007 /  #664
I rest my case,you cannot post without insults,your words are all the arguement needed.

How can you think "get a spine" and "cry me a river" are insulting??

Point out one instance where I have "told people to go home" ,go on,where ?

I don't think Z meant you. It was probably in refrence to the person that was quoted.
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
15 Oct 2007 /  #665
rest my case,you cannot post without insults,your words are all the arguement needed

Please point out where I've insulted someone. Perhaps you're extremely sensitive, but Cry me a river isn't an insult. My sincere apologies if you're offended.

It is the only name for a strawberry picker

I've never heard of a strawberry picker...as a job anyway. I have strawberries and I pick them. Would you be calling me this? ;)

Point out one instance where I have "told people to go home" ,go on,where ?

Are you also Craig P? My statement was towards him.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
15 Oct 2007 /  #666
I've never heard of a strawberry picker...as a job anyway

I worked with a Polish chap who picked Strawberries in both Spain and the UK.

Would you be calling me this?

An amateur Strawberry picker.
This chap was a professional.

It could be used as an offensive term, but no-one has decided yet what kind of things a Strawberry picker might be doing at the same time as picking Strawberries.

Cry me a river isn't an insult

No. It is a song.
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
15 Oct 2007 /  #667
A moderators duty is to ensure some form of fair play on a free forum,not to come on threads they have no connection to and insult people.,or am I mistalen there?

You're mistaken. I have the freedom to post in any topic I feel the need to.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
15 Oct 2007 /  #668
You are psychic now are you,or just paranoid,did I mention the nationality of the said strawberry picker? Do you think Polish people are only good to pick strawberries? If so you are the one with the negative attitude to PL not me.

What is wrong with being an agricultural worker,is that something you would have a problem with people doing to earn an honest living? I certainly wouldnt have a problem doing that job if so requeried or inclined, a job is a job,in fact I am sure many strawberry pickers are students who will go on to develop succesful careers in that or more likely other lines of work.

Yes you do insult people with your belitiling attitude to them ,you are obviously such a genious yourself that witty little put downs to people expressing thier far more valid opinion on the subject than you float your boat in a arrogent but narrow minded way that demonstrates a lack of ability to learn from the wider world and your posts only show this to the world .

Oh,and arnt you the clever little soldier, good for you,you spotted a typo by a dyslexic and oh so hilariously copied it in your post, laugh,I nearly bought a pizza. mistaken /mistalen,big frikken deal brother.........
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
15 Oct 2007 /  #669
You are psychic now are you,or just paranoid

You're the one who's acting paranoid. My comment wasn't made towards you and I was simplt stating that life is tough and you have to get off of your arse in order to make it in today's society. The competition is fierce and instead of wasting time in a forum whining about it, he should be out looking. Stop complaining about the PL being there and do anything to make money.

a job is a job

Absolutely, but unfortunately some people are picky and then wonder where all of the work is.

Oh,and arnt you the clever little soldier, good for you,you spotted a typo by a dyslexic and oh so hilariously copied it in your post, laugh

I actually made the same error
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
15 Oct 2007 /  #670
Although you edited out most of your wilder accusations a to what I was intending in my posts you still havnt answered any of my questions regarding how you can possibly have the gall to be dismisive and belittling (insulting if you like) to people from the UK, a person who came on here not with the usual " Poles Fek off home " mentality but someone who pointed out his perception of his reality,not yours coseted somewhere in North America,but his,here in the UK so I ask again,why you felt the need to dismiss him with the arrogence you did if you have no direct knowladge of his situation?
_Sofi_  
15 Oct 2007 /  #671
typo by a dyslexic

I'd never have guessed you were dyslexic from your posts!
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
15 Oct 2007 /  #672
Quoting: isthatu
Oh,and arnt you the clever little soldier, good for you,you spotted a typo by a dyslexic and oh so hilariously copied it in your post, laugh

I actually made the same error

well I'll eat humble pie and apologise then. Got me on a day when Im like a dog with a bone,but,and this is a big but,I still think you were wrong to insult him in that way,he will now be just one more person over here with the mindset that" the bloody Poles are getting everything " instead of maybe sticking around and learning that is not the case,snotty comments dont lead to dialoge and thats the only way IMHO to counter the rising anti immegration sentiments in todays not so UK.
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554  
15 Oct 2007 /  #673
I still think you were wrong to insult him in that way,

I was raised with tough love and had to fight tooth and nail for what I have today. I was just laid off recently as well so I understand, but since I have experience in the world I was able to get something right away. You're absolutely correct in saying that I don't know anything about the UK, but I know work has to be out there somewhere.....even if it is picking strawberries. In your opinion I'm wrong in telling him to stop crying and try harder.

If i've offended you I do apologize. We just have a different approach to things in life

Hope you're enjoying your pie
Janey - | 30  
22 Oct 2007 /  #674
Britain is a very bigoted country. There is a noticeable divide,

Agree with you, my work collegues have actually sent me to Coventry (wont talk to me or recognise that I am there) because I talk and socialise both inside and outside of work with our Polish workers. They are totaly stupid, ignorant and uncultured.

I have never been treat with more respect from my now new Polish friends.They also dislike that my lover is also Polish.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
22 Oct 2007 /  #675
Janey

But you know that you are a far better person for being open-minded.
Petty, bigoted people miss out on so many of the pleasures in life through their ignorance and pessimism.
I'm just glad the same thing didn't happen where I work.
Kilkline 1 | 689  
23 Oct 2007 /  #676
Agree with you, my work collegues have actually sent me to Coventry (wont talk to me or recognise that I am there) because I talk and socialise both inside and outside of work with our Polish workers. They are totaly stupid, ignorant and uncultured.

Funnily enough my brother work in a factory in Coventry where most of the staff are Polish and he says people get on fine. How ironic.
True Brit - | 7  
24 Oct 2007 /  #677
I worked with 3 Polish girls this time last year and they were the the loveliest people I've ever worked with.

As far as the attitude of Brits towards Poles is concerned, there is a lot of resentment towards the people that have come over here from Eastern Europe in general and not just Poland, though as the majority are from Poland all Eastern Europeans tend to get referred to as Polish.

But it's not that British people don't like Polish people, it's the amount that have come here that they don't like.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
25 Oct 2007 /  #678
Your right the Germans and the French did also win a Noble Prize along with the Brits....but the Poles didn't....which was my point!!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Wa%C5%82%C4%99sa
postie 7 | 112  
25 Oct 2007 /  #679
Here's my 2p's worth!

Damn.... amongst all of the arguing and sarcastic remarks, I seem to have forgotten my point....

Oh yeah. That's it.

I work for an agency. I'm English. I've many Polish friends, workmates and an ex-girlfriend who is Polish. I'm slowly learning to speak Polish.

As far as the work situation goes, yes, having so many Polish arrive so quickly, has made life as an agency worker, extremely tough. If there are, for ease of example, 100 jobs to be given out in one week, from the agency. Then, before the "invasion" ( I hate that term!) the agency would have struggled to fill even half of those positions... leaving me with the option of taking the highest paying work that week.

On top of that, if a company were absolutely desperate for extra staff, then they'd pay higher, often above those of its regular staff... because the market economy dictates that is how they need to behave. When there was no need for those staff, then they'd lay you off. No problem, I'd go and pick the next highest paying... or best conditioned job, with the hours that suited me.

Now. If there are 100 jobs available in one week, then there are ( I am guessing here) about 200 people to choose from. We're all on pretty much minimum wage, because, it's a market economy, and the employers and agency know that they can get anyone they want... because we all know there're 100 people behind us who'll take the work if we say we wont work for minimum wage.

Most weeks now, I am lucky if I get 3 shifts. I'm sitting here today, in a seasonal work town, with many many unemployed, because I have no work. Tomorrow I do. Yesterday I worked. Next week? I don't know. Maybe nothing, maybe 5 shifts. And yes, life is bloody difficult. But I don't blame the Polish for it. Many English have done exactly the same as the Poles, when unemployment was high in the UK in the past, we went abroad and worked in Spain and Germany and elsewhere.

I like where I live, I have roots here, I have a mortgage. I can't just pick up and leave. I also wont sign-on. Unless I was absolutely desperate. It hasn't come to that yet. I can normally get enough money each week to pay the bills. Just.

As I said, I don't blame the Poles. Life is Brutal, as many of them say. Things will even out eventually, and hopefully soon. I was laid off from a decent job I'd held (as an agency fella) recently. I got a bit pissed drowning my sorrows, as I'd had little work that week, and went round to talk to a mate about how shite the situation for work is in Scarborough. He said the problem was too many Polish in town... i disagreed, there's not enough decent work, but... and here's the thing... my mate is Polish! Kind of weird eh????

Anyhows, just a ramble, to kind of explain it from one Englishman's perspective. Hope that enlightens some people.
Yogibear - | 40  
25 Oct 2007 /  #680
What is English people attitude towards Poles, I was reading that some people are unhappy to see many Poles over there and are hostility towards them but on the other hand they are respected too. So whats the truth? So far I thought English people are very friendly but after reading their discussion on one forum I was quite shocked how anti-polish they were.

I think it's quite natural for some English people to feel anxious my friend. Since the 1950's this country has seen a large influx of foreigners land on it's shores. Since then some people see that the country has been in a decline and like to put the blame elsewhere and the first and most obvious external target are foreign people. Somepeople in my country are small minded biggoted fools in my opinion. They for instance in the 50's and 60's blamed the Asian influx of people but in the 70's the went to curry houses for food and now curry is my countries number one dish. Thinks take time my friend but don't let the small minority of people get to you or dishearten you on what this country has to offer. An example of this is.... Last week I was on a bus which drove past new buildings getting erected . An old man on the bus said to his wife those buildings are for Asylum Seekers. I cringed for this man because I knew that those new buildings are for students. This is just one example of misinforamtion being spread by a narrow mind. Like I said to you before do not be preturbed by people like this and enjoy my country and what she has to offer.

Oh I nearly forgot my friend. During The Battle of Briatin during World War 2 when Britain was a whisker away from crumbling a lot of the brave pilots who were fighting in English skies were Polish. If anybody gives you grief you can always remind them of that fact.

Especially the curry. :-)

Peace and Love.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
25 Oct 2007 /  #681
Oh I nearly forgot my friend. During The Battle of Briatin during World War 2 when Britain was a whisker away from crumbling a lot of the brave pilots who were fighting in English skies were Polish. If anybody gives you grief you can always remind them of that fact.

Ohh, you will regret those words very soon. This subject has been repeated on this forum so many times that regular poster probably feel nauseas whenever they hear words: WWII, Pilots, Enigma, Yalta...Still, thank you very much for the kind words. Much appreciated. :)
Yogibear - | 40  
25 Oct 2007 /  #682
thank you very much for the kind words. Much appreciated. :)

I try my best to please.
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
26 Oct 2007 /  #683
situation for work is in Scarborough.

Not really connected to this post , but i just wanted to say hello to you Postie , good luck with the job hunting...I know that work is not so easy to find in Scarborough...I was born and raised there actually , lived in the gildercliffe area....I am now living on an old farm in Poland , funny old world eh....?
telefonitika  
26 Oct 2007 /  #684
Scarborough...I was born and raised there actually , lived in the gildercliffe area

my family still there some of it Eastfield Estate area .. so small world indeed
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
26 Oct 2007 /  #685
Eastfield Estate area

Even more amazing...I was born in Herdborough road eastfield.....Well actually st thomas,s hospital , but i lived in Eastfield for the first six years of my life.....Later when i was married i lived in Hawthorne walk Eastfield....A very small world indeed.....
jay uk - | 29  
7 Nov 2007 /  #686
Well i dont hate the Polish...its some of you that dont like me :)

Seriously though i think you Polish are real cool and i think sometimes think we brits can learn some interesting things from you.
bling  
7 Nov 2007 /  #687
i thnk that polish men are are overpaid and over sexed whoopee* let me at em!
postie 7 | 112  
7 Nov 2007 /  #688
Not really connected to this post , but i just wanted to say hello to you Postie , good luck with the job hunting...I know that work is not so easy to find in Scarborough...I was born and raised there actually , lived in the gildercliffe area....I am now living on an old farm in Poland , funny old world eh....?

Blimey.... it certainly is a small world. When I first became a postie in Scarborough, my delivery for 18 months included Hawthorn Walk!!!

my family still there some of it Eastfield Estate area .. so small world indeed

Well, you'll know where I am packing frozen pizza then :) I'll give Eastfield a wave for you tomorrow morning as I go by on the McCains bus.
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
7 Nov 2007 /  #689
go by on the McCains bus.

Even smaller world.....I did a stint shoveling mountains of spuds down a hole in the floor where they were carried along by water to the making chips dept....some of my mates worked in the mash spuds dept.....
barmario  
13 Nov 2007 /  #690
I am English and have I have lived in London my whole life, The fact that nearly all English people I know are pissed off about the amount of polish people now here is not because they are Polish specifically because if it were some other races who had flocked here in such huge numbers the reaction would have been much worse. Its just how quickly it has happened and London is losing all its identity, it is now just a place for people to make money and send it home. It wouldnt be so bad if such a large percentage of Eastern European immigrants actually speak badly about this country and its people.Whether anyone likes it or not England is a country with a culture and tradition too and have heard "this country is crap!" "English are lazy!" when it cannot be denied what this is a GREAT land with a rich history, whether its the sports we have invented (football) or the minds we have created (Darwin,Newton) it deserves to be respected.

We dont grumble about the Polish because their race, we grumble because right now as an Englishman i feel like a foreigner in my own country and the most spoken language is Polish. If a million people poured into Poland to exploit your economy in the space of a few years you would moan too.

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