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Are British people really interested to integrate with Poles?


buyyko 1 | 16  
9 Sep 2007 /  #1
YO! I know there is a lot of English who are complain of the weak integrate between polish and British. But so often (especially in pubs) you can be in a situation when you are gonna to begin chat, that going well until you say were are you from.
Ronek 1 | 261  
9 Sep 2007 /  #2
sounds intresting, tell me more, did you have personal experience like that?
OP buyyko 1 | 16  
9 Sep 2007 /  #3
Yes. have a lot of personal experience. For example in one of pubs in leicester, i was begin to have a nice conwersation with a english girl. When she asked me about my nationality and i said im from poland. she just said -see ya, and have a nice party.

Another example is form my work. There is a team of seven people four of them are british and three are polish. our relations are very good, they are always happy to help with evetything, we are well suited to each other team. But there is no chance to go out together. To pub or any party. i have no idea why is like that
Michal - | 1,865  
9 Sep 2007 /  #4
I do not think that the British have anything against the Poles as such, I certainly do not. I think that England is used to many people from all over the World coming to this country, though I do know of some people who feel that we have enough. I find it strange as in fact it is the Poles who do not want to mix much and keep themselves to themselves except for some of the women who possibly want a ready built house and Birish passport waiting for them!
osiol 55 | 3,922  
9 Sep 2007 /  #5
When she asked me about my nationality and i said im from poland. she just said -see ya, and have a nice party

It's probably best for your sake she left it at that. B****!
There are better people out there. Most of us, I'd like to think.

But there is no chance to go out together. To pub or any party

I have spent much of the last year working with a group of Polish blokes.
The only reason we never had more than just one beer after work was because
they had so far to travel and some of them had second jobs in the evening.

I think it depends on where and who you are. Most people find it easier to integrate when they are on their own
and not with a large group of people from the same country as themselves.
Lady in red  
9 Sep 2007 /  #6
except for some of the women who possibly want a ready built house and Birish passport waiting for them!

.......shame you had to add this onto your paragraph.......cos it read ok and then you have to start knocking women again. It's an old fashioned stereotype image you portray here. It's very, very outdated and women aren't interested in that !!

I would even dare say that the majority of women are self supporting and independent........

.......did anyone let you know we live in the year 2007 :)

lol
Daisy 3 | 1,227  
9 Sep 2007 /  #7
It's probably best for your sake she left it at that. B****!

I agree

Hang around the forum for a while buyyko, and you'll soon learn to ignore Michal
osiol 55 | 3,922  
9 Sep 2007 /  #8
Suprisingly polite though!
I mean:

see ya, and have a nice party

tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
9 Sep 2007 /  #9
Hang around the forum for a while buyyko, and you'll soon learn to ignore Michal

i second that point :)
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
9 Sep 2007 /  #11
When she asked me about my nationality and i said im from poland. she just said -see ya, and have a nice party.

She may just have figured you would go back to Poland and leave her one day,maybe she couldnt face the eventual rejection :)
Dont take it to heart whichever way though. Try something that all the girls love,the old Polish kiss on the hand,British girls god bless em seem starved of the romantic type lately. "elo luv,wanna shag?" is more what theyre used to hearing in pubs :)
Ranj 21 | 948  
9 Sep 2007 /  #12
She may just have figured you would go back to Poland and leave her one day,maybe she couldnt face the eventual rejection :)

Good point.....she may have had a bad experience with a Polish man already and projected it onto you....:)
_Sofi_  
9 Sep 2007 /  #13
"elo luv,wanna shag?"

Not nice, I agree but

Try something that all the girls love,the old Polish kiss on the hand,

I would be very ...embarassed if this happened! I would not know what to do!
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
9 Sep 2007 /  #14
"elo luv,wanna shag?"

classy line ay!!!

Try something that all the girls love,the old Polish kiss on the hand,

i thought that was french??

I would be very ...embarassed if this happened! I would not know what to do!

if a guy kisses you on the hand just take it and smile, be polite
Ranj 21 | 948  
9 Sep 2007 /  #15
I would be very ...embarassed if this happened! I would not know what to do!

You've never had a man kiss your hand, Sofi?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,385  
9 Sep 2007 /  #16
i thought that was french??

It does still happen here, but not very often.
Ronek 1 | 261  
9 Sep 2007 /  #17
embarassed

ok... thats strange.
Kiss on the hand is sign of respect or affection. It's not so common nowadays especialy not in the west but it's far better then "wanna shag?"

Why would one be embarased over a kiss?
Damn I would be emarased to walk to a las in the pub and drop a punchline like "elo luv, wanna shag?"
Ranj 21 | 948  
9 Sep 2007 /  #18
It's not so common nowadays especialy not in the west

I'd have to disagree with you there, Ronek.....It happens quite frequently in the US, at least that has been my experience.
Ronek 1 | 261  
9 Sep 2007 /  #19
Ranj

fair enough, I've never been to US. I've based my opinion on the western europe.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
9 Sep 2007 /  #20
Ok i suppose this is on subject, kind of:

to change track a little i want to talk about a situation i find sometimes with Polish people, its something i've never really understood and never asked them about.

I have had a number of Polish friends who have been really nice and polite, good to spend time with, friendly and good friends in the bargain. Sometimes however i find that they all of a sudden become very paranoid, either about the situations they are in or something i may do potentially.

For example there was a girl i knew that was very nervous about letting me come to her house, she had been to my house before there were no problems but when i went round there once she was really nervous and didn't know if she wanted me to go in. I said it was fine and that she didn't have to let me in. The next time i went round it was ok because one of her other friends were there. I asked her why she didn't let me in the first time, i thought it may of been because she felt insecure around me or thought i might try and rob her, rape her hell i didn't know. She told me though it was a big thing in Poland sometimes about letting people into your house.

Another girl i knew once asked me to fix her laptop, i did so with her worrying all the time and she was so unsure whether i was going to do something wrong or mess up her laptop, of course i didn't and it was fixed. however the next day she wanted me to check it again and again. She said hat because it had gone wrong once it made her think it would happen again.

I could go on all night with different examples but i guess my point is, is a trait the Polish have 'being conservative' or 'paranoid'??? or is it in fact that i just happen to have experienced two special cases of deep paranoia??

thanks

T
_Sofi_  
9 Sep 2007 /  #21
You've never had a man kiss your hand, Sofi?

One actually, but this was a boyfriend of my mothers only, upon introduction, not someone expressing interest or anything.

sign of respect or affection.

And I would appreciate that completely and be very flattered...at the same time as not knowing what to do..

Why would one be embarased over a kiss?

I don't know.. it seems very ceremonious or something like that.. old films portray it strangely.

Damn I would be emarased to walk to a las in the pub and drop a punchline like "elo luv, wanna shag?"

Good to hear :) I do think those who try this line should be very embarassed. I agree it's preferable to have a kiss on the hand than that line, but really I just like a guy to come over and strike up a conversation with me! Less formality!
Ronek 1 | 261  
9 Sep 2007 /  #22
tornado2007

Yeah sounds pretty bizzare. But I guess there must be insecure people like that in every nation.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
9 Sep 2007 /  #23
yeah kind of what i thought but there was no harm in asking the question
osiol 55 | 3,922  
9 Sep 2007 /  #24
You can try kissing her hand, but no matter how flattered she is, there's still a possibility she might actually prefer the more modern 'Fancy a shag?' line. However, both in combination really doesn't work.

Not that I've tried.
Ranj 21 | 948  
9 Sep 2007 /  #25
I've based my opinion on the western europe

That's fair....I will say the Eastern Europeans I have met were more gentlemanly than the Western Europeans I have met (except for my man, of course....he's a sweetheart) :)
Ronek 1 | 261  
9 Sep 2007 /  #26
You can try kissing her hand, but no matter how flattered she is, there's still a possibility she might actually prefer the more modern 'Fancy a shag?' line. However, both in combination really doesn't work.

I've just imagined that sort of situation and almost fell of the chair.

-good morning lovely miss *kiss*.....fancy a shag?

its definately something to start with...
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
9 Sep 2007 /  #27
That's fair....I will say the Eastern Europeans I have met were more gentlemanly than the Western Europeans I have met (except for my man, of course....he's a sweetheart) :)

really i am shocked!!! I love the Poles and Eastern Europe for many things but politeness isn't one of the strong points :) Well those in England i suppose i can only speak about as i've only been to Poland once
Ronek 1 | 261  
9 Sep 2007 /  #28
hmm sounds Torny that you have some intresting stories to tell, please do tell them.
And if we're not polite then what is it that you love Poles for?
Ranj 21 | 948  
9 Sep 2007 /  #29
really i am shocked!!! I love the Poles and Eastern Europe for many things but politeness isn't one of the strong points :)

In all fairness, it was on a cruise ship and I found the Polish, Russian and Romanian men more friendly than the English.....of course, I am American, and I know how we are not looked upon favorably by the English. ;)
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
9 Sep 2007 /  #30
hmm sounds Torny that you have some intresting stories to tell, please do tell them.

well a few examples:

When waiting outside a nightclub on numerous occasions a group of Eastern Europeans think that its ok to push all the way to the front and just walk in without no checks or even having to file to the back of the cue. Even when the bouncers tell them you must go to the back they stand there looking shocked like they own the place.

The street is busy and your walking down the high street with a number of friends. Somebody barges past you, you or whoever has been barged out the way turns round and says something and the reply comes back at you in rapid fire Polish, i mean there is nothing wrong with saying excuse me, is there??

My Polish friend wanted to borrow my laptop, his way of asking was to reach over and take it!!!! I mean really that is the definition of been cheeky or rude either one will do.

Getting on a bus or using public transport and you usually try and give the older generation a seat to sit in or leave the ones at the front for them, not the poles or eastern europeans just plonk themselves down and even light up a fag!!!!

all small things but if you don't do them you stick out like a sore thumb. I could give you thousands of examples and yes of course there are rude Brits but i've never seen anything like it since the sudden influx of Eastern Europeans in my city.

of course, I am American, and I know how we are not looked upon favorably by the English. ;)

hay when i went to America i loved it, as soon as they realsied you were from england or the UK they were falling over themselves to be polite and help out in anyway they could. I haven't many bad things to say about Americans at all. I think there are some parts of America that are just truly fantastically weird like some of the deep south, now thats another planet all together :)

Of course you get the American jokes etc but on the whole i don't think the UK has a bad word to say about America unless were talking about politics.

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