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Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them?


Huegel 1 | 296  
23 Feb 2007 /  #121
What is it with this forum and it's anti German feeling all of a sudden?

Ok Babylon. You want to analyse the text Deutschland über alles then you HAVE to understand the time it was written in

please don't tell me that in those days there were many german lands not united

You say that, but that is exactly the point.
THAT IS WHY IT WAS WRITTEN!
There was, at the time of the composition of that hymn, NO Germany.
No emperor, no central government that first verse attempted to instill a sense of unity and aspiration to become better and one nation.

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt.

Germany, Germany above everything
Above everything in the world
When, always, for protection and defence
Brothers stand together.
From the Maas to the Memel
From the Etsch to the Belt,
Germany, Germany above all
Above all in the world.

Now before you start saying being above all in the world is being rascist, it means in the sense of being esteemed above everything else (I love my country above all else; ya know Patriotism.) That is after all what they were trying to inspire.

Yes, the words got twisted and used by some to promote their own ends (rather like you just tried to do) and that's why in 1950 it was replaced with the current anthem. Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit... (which was the third verse of the original song)

Only sick, and racist nation could have such words in anthem.

Really, like the French anthem?

Sacred love of the fatherland, cherished liberty, strenghten our arm of vengence.... victory come to your male calls, let your dying enemies, see your triumph and your glory. To arms, citizens! Form your battalions! Let us march, let us march may impure blood soak our fields' furrows!

or perhaps the British one?

O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall;
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
Oh, save us all!

Or perhaps the the American one?

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save
The hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

I could go on but i'm not going to labour the point.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
23 Feb 2007 /  #122
No emperor, no central government

When Polish was written there was no Poland at all and somehow we don't have such a crap.
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
23 Feb 2007 /  #123
hmmm.....I like the German people

i dis-like their government, i might change my mind in a few years if they make clear that Poland will be an Ally for good. :)
josecitomadera  
23 Feb 2007 /  #124
Puerto Ricans were always anti nazi I hear that some of them were collaborating with them during the WWII... I have lost my faith in human kind now.

LOL, according to eyewitness accounts Eva Braun loved that music.
lovely - | 24  
24 Feb 2007 /  #125
I like Germans and it looks like this poll is in their favour :). Actually, I can't say that there is any country that I hate and I find that a little weird that some of you can.
a German  
26 Feb 2007 /  #126
It makes me smile when they say that noone likes Polish...What about them?

I don't want to sound mean but they are the least liked nation in Europe.

Sorry Iwona....I'm a bit late and you and your friends have it wrong (like often enough)
Do you read per chance the latest world wide popularity survey (Anhold Nation Brand Index)?

Germany comes in second just after Great Britain!

You can read about that here:

.999today.com/travel/news/story/3821.html

Or you can download the report here:

.nationbrandindex.com/

PS: I discovered your board here today and soon couldn't stop reading....some of you are so funny (Babylon, Lonestranger, Crow...etc) Thanks for the good time!:)

PS: Poland comes at #30 !

The 30.iest most liked country world wide....not bad!
Right between Egypt and Malaysia!!! :)

November 28, 2006
2006 Anholt Nation Brands Index- Turkey and Israel at the lowest top...

The Anholt Nation Brands Index measures the power and appeal of a nation’s brand image, and tells us how consumers around the world see the character and personality of that brand. The nation brand is the sum of the perceptions of a country and its people across six areas of national assets, characteristics and competence. Together, these areas are Tourism, exports, people, governance, culture and heritage, investment and immigration. (The report captures the view of 25,903 online consumers across 35 countries. )

Overall Ranking:

United Kingdom 1
Germany 2
Italy 3
Canada 4
Switzerland 5
France 6
Sweden 7
Japan 8
United States 9
Australia 10
Spain 11
The Netherlands 12
Denmark 13
Norway 14
New Zealand 15
Belgium 16
Portugal 17
Ireland 18
China 19
Russia 20
Brazil 21
Hungary 22
Argentina 23
Singapore 24
India 25
Mexico 26
South Korea 27
Czech Republic 28
Egypt 29
Poland 30
Malaysia 31
South Africa 32
Estonia 33
Indonesia 34
Turkey 35
Israel 36
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
26 Feb 2007 /  #127
Germany comes in second just after Great Britain!

:)
a German  
26 Feb 2007 /  #128
Do Poles steal alot?

...most stereotypes have more than a little core of truth to them!
:)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Feb 2007 /  #129
.most stereotypes have more than a little core of truth to them!

so when they say germans are rude arrogant beerbellied bureaucrats in lederhosen its not too far from the truth...?
a German  
26 Feb 2007 /  #130
The same with intelligen, hard working, meticulous, punctual, disciplined, loyal and a bit aloof....yup!

There is a core of truth innit.

Oh and Schorsch...I'm not funny...I'm a German!:)

But for the Lederhosen...you will never find a honest Prussian with Lederhosen...he would rather die!

PS: And please excuse all my typos!:(
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Feb 2007 /  #131
apparently germans do have a sense of humour but it is different and expressed at different times... it also doesnt translate into english well... apparently...
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
26 Feb 2007 /  #132
I'm not funny...I'm a German!

Yeah...
Huegel 1 | 296  
26 Feb 2007 /  #133
The Austrians have an odd sense of humour Bubba, that's for certain, but once you get your ear in, it's not that hard to laugh in the right places. :)

@a German.

ist gut, dass du dich hier registriert hast. Willkommen bei Polishforums :)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Feb 2007 /  #134
hueg... my post was very tongue in cheek... i have laughed my butt off with germans on a number of occassions... never with austrians tho... what do they make of your sense of humour...?

welcom to the forum a german... typos are ignored :)
Huegel 1 | 296  
26 Feb 2007 /  #135
my post was very tongue in cheek

I'd guessed. :)

what do they make of your sense of humour

Hmm, they're a serious bunch, to the point of leaving you thinking they must have had a collective humour bypass, so I guess they thought I was pretty outrageous, what with me cracking jokes left, right and centre and nothing being off limits for a bit of ribbing. (I try not to take too much seriously, as i'm sure you've guessed!)

It was just a question of getting used to each other really. Some got it straight away, while others took a while before they stopped taking me literally and stopped trying to work out what I might be talking about. (Always good hearing them say 'So, this must be the world famous British humour' with a bewildered look on their faces)

Now though, life is grand and we're cooking on gas. :)

But, I still don't find the "why is Canada called Canada" joke funny, no matter how much I try. :)

What about Poland? They cope with your dry wit ok?
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
26 Feb 2007 /  #136
a German, its nice to know not all Germans hate us anymore. :)

since u are here, maybe u can clarify for us. Does most of the German population still hate/dislike/think negatively of Poland? or is it the other way around?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Feb 2007 /  #137
I'd guessed.

thought you might have... :)

They cope with your dry wit ok?

not a hope... i spent ages explaining the reason ducks have webbed feet is to stamp out forest fires and they just didnt get it... oh well... such is life as the crazy englishman...
Huegel 1 | 296  
26 Feb 2007 /  #138
Ruddy Shel duck! It's from Stoke :)
You mean they don't have ducks on 30 minute standby during brush season? Man, they've been lucky so far...

No smoke without foul play etc
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Feb 2007 /  #139
egrets mate... indeed... no smoke with fowl play... etc...
Huegel 1 | 296  
26 Feb 2007 /  #140
That was the one... :)
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
26 Feb 2007 /  #141
Sorry Iwona....I'm a bit late and you and your friends have it wrong (like often enough)
Do you read per chance the latest world wide popularity survey (Anhold Nation Brand Index)?

Germany comes in second just after Great Britain!

My God, what next? A white man being the most popular rapper or something?

Wait a minute, wait a minute.... Hold the Armageddon! I just noticed that it's more about Siemens, Braun und Volkswagen rather than Hans, Ernst, Helga or other Bertha. Ufff, that was close. :)

so when they say germans are rude arrogant beerbellied bureaucrats in lederhosen its not too far from the truth...?

Why are you so mean Klaus?
I'm German, that's vat ve do! :)

PS: Welcome to the forum a German. I'm glad you enjoy it. :)
Huegel 1 | 296  
26 Feb 2007 /  #142
A white man being the most popular rapper or something

Hey, when you've got it, you've got it, dawg...
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
26 Feb 2007 /  #143
For shizzle my nizzle! :)
shewolf 5 | 1,077  
26 Feb 2007 /  #144
Hey, when you've got it, you've got it, dawg...

LOL Huegel. I'll never get that image out of my head.
ArturSzastak 3 | 593  
26 Feb 2007 /  #145
Oh boy. Just what we need. Another Eminem/Slim Shady.

To tell you the truth, he was probably better than most black rappers ever were or ahd the potential to be. What I'm still trying to figure out is why I'm talking about rappers?
North Pole  
4 Apr 2007 /  #146
We are on polish forum. let`s talk about polish history. Here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_Poland_%28until_966%29
Start reading.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,727  
4 Apr 2007 /  #147
"We are on polish forum. let`s talk about polish history. Here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_Poland_%28until_966%29
Start reading."


Ummm...I did! (Not that there is much)
But where does it say Germanics stem from Slaves like crow says....that's bullsh*t!

And yes that is a polish forum but when your history is so wrong someone HAS to tell you right! :)
Crow 152 | 9,768  
4 Apr 2007 /  #148
"It was in deep past, before Germans because of Semitic penetration into Europe were exracted from Slavs, as unique ethos (Teutons). With time, they assimilated more and more Slavs- original native European population. Then, they (and many others) spraed and start to stealing Slavic history in the same time. But, they abondened our heritage and accepted newcoming Semitic ideological constructions."

That`s you

What`s wrong with fact that Germans are spiritual Semitics?

foreigners

Pardon

I am not foreigner. I am among my people.

Your version of history is untold with good reason Crow...

That for sure
North Pole  
4 Apr 2007 /  #149
You are hopeless. Both of you.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,727  
4 Apr 2007 /  #150
"What`s wrong with fact that Germans are spiritual Semitics?"

WHAT is a spiritual semitic??? And WHY should Germans be that??? :)

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