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Poland..wake up to a multicultural world


Castanea  - | 75  
22 Apr 2009 /  #781
I guess I am preaching to the crickets. Well Poland will wake up soon enough. There are many nationalist groups already.

Hopefully they will wake up soon, and not later like Austria which has too many turks now. Poland's neighbors are getting the picture, so it seems.
mephias  10 | 296  
22 Apr 2009 /  #782
I guess I am preaching to the crickets. Well Poland will wake up soon enough. There are many nationalist groups already.

Don't be so hopeful.
I don't think ignorants like you won't be majority in Poland.
Nathan  18 | 1349  
22 Apr 2009 /  #783
Listen, take the away colonial history, and you guys would still be eating each other, enslaving each other, fashioning dung huts, and basically being the Arab's play things. That's right your people were enslaved by Arabs for 14 centuries.

What would you be if there were not colonial times? I think 300 pounds and over of 60 % of US population wouldn't exit right now. US produces tons of bowel gases contaminating the world air supply and destroying ozone layer.

If some poor Mexicans pick grapes all day, are they makers of fine wine? No

Yes, they are, you lazy butt-sitter! Have you ever moved your ass in your life doign something besides carrying paper in the offices and damaging a chair by your butt?

Castanea:
Non-white culture is degenerate

I never said non whites were all degenerate

I guess I am preaching to the crickets.

I wish I was a cricket when you are talking because they have no ears.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
22 Apr 2009 /  #784
You multicultural mantra gibbering fools will no doubt dismiss the following out of hand with some pathetic deflection. I await the inevitable with glee:

The downside of diversity
A Harvard political scientist finds that diversity hurts civic life. What happens when a liberal scholar unearths an inconvenient truth?

"But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings"

boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity
Seanus  15 | 19666  
22 Apr 2009 /  #785
I go along with his findings. I think that homogeneous societies vote more predictably and purposefully. I believe in tolerance in diversity but don't actively promote MC.
southern  73 | 7059  
22 Apr 2009 /  #786
The strength of non-whites:Blacks.Excellent musicians and athletes.They also tend to move alot like dancing when they talk.
Asians:Very intelligent and precise and obedient workers.They also can live in very small space in a small home sharing the same room with other familes.
PurpleLeo  2 | 47  
23 Apr 2009 /  #787
Really? How so? What minorities? Asians? North east Asians have a rich historical and cultural heritage spanning thousands of years. Black Americans have no unique language or traditions. Black history is a speck on the time line. Aside from fried chicken, water melon, grits, hip hop, I see no real culture. Nothing unique anyway. Just remnants of European culture that you guys molested and called "black".

Wow!!! you are sooooooooo ignorant!! black americans happen to have
"no culture" because they lost it all when "your white ancestors" decided to
ship them in mass from the places they call home. Do you realize that most
black americans are from Africa? That said I hope you understand that white
americans indeed have no culture either. I think a lot of people will agree with
me that AMERICA IN GENERAL HAS NO CULTURE because it is no man's land.
Castanea  - | 75  
23 Apr 2009 /  #788
We aren't ignorant.

Anyone with common sense can see that whites do not benefit at all from diversity. America has rich culture because it's European immigrants actually have a culture.

Just face it, I'm right. All the evidence is not in your favor. You antis rely on personal fallacious anecdotes and media bullcrap. No substance at all.

And yes, Krakow has many swamp rats peddling their cheaply made garbage. I'm sure your asian friend will blend right in.

How are blacks excellent musicians? The pinacle of their music is just degenerate rap and hip hop. The athlete myth is a joke. They dominate professional basketball and football because the owners choose to higher blacks. Which does not make sense because they represent a minority. I believe that this is purposeful indoctrination of the white majority.

Most white Americans gather every strand of information from the television, and broadcasting negroe super heroes, furthers this multi cultural agenda.
IronsE11  2 | 441  
23 Apr 2009 /  #789
How are blacks excellent musicians? The pinacle of their music is just degenerate rap and hip hop.

Ever heard of Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Louis Armstrong, Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Nat King Cole, Aretha Franklin, B. B. King, Dionne Warwick, Al Green? The list is endless.

The athlete myth is a joke.

How many whites participate in the final of the Olympic 100 Metres?

They dominate professional basketball and football because the owners choose to higher blacks.

Was that a reference to the general height of black men or just an embarrassing attempt at spelling hire?

Which does not make sense because they represent a minority.

It makes perfect sense to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. Are you saying that you support affirmative action in this case? Should white men be hired as atheletes, even if they are inferior?

I'm a junior in college

It shows.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
23 Apr 2009 /  #790
Ever heard of Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Louis Armstrong, Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Nat King Cole, Aretha Franklin, B. B. King, Dionne Warwick, Al Green? The list is endless.

You forgot Ella Fitzgerald and my all time fav, Dororthy Moore.
ADAMHOPLEY9  - | 6  
23 Apr 2009 /  #791
Ofcourse the negroe can run faster than the whiteman so can the cheetah.
Nathan  18 | 1349  
23 Apr 2009 /  #792
The history of humanity runs from Africa to the most remote parts of the world (relative to African continent) - Australia and Americas. Before that the places were uninhabited. Now they slowly but surely become overpopulated. People have to move in order to find a better life because it doesn't repeat twice, unfortunately or fortunately. You can keep the doors shut, but "osmosis" will find its way - either out or in. It is a question of time. We will converge eventually - there is no escape from it, unless we will move to Mars or the Moon and start from there. Overly i agree that majority feels safer in monoethnic communities whether they are black, white or blue. But can you build pressure by overpopulating the Earth and then try to resist afterwards by building borders and walls? They won't withstand and will have to come down.
SamenessLove  1 | 33  
24 Apr 2009 /  #793
Individuals promoting "multiculturalism" for Poland are predators. They promote the destruction of the uniqueness of a people. England is a shining example of the weakness of multiculturalism. The destruction of cities, the increase in crimes, social problems, and destruction of freedoms.

Drunk on moral indignation and self-righteousness, the promoters of multiculturalism believe somehow that it is a harm not to open the floodgates to the third world. That it is some moral wrong. There is no moral wrong here. The moral wrong is in allowing communities to die. In destroying sameness. This is the moral wrong.

If you want a multicultural world, you should want sameness. For what good is your multiculturalism when no nation can express a unique genetic footprint? How drab it would be to look upon a world where no nation is authentically unique?

Those who love sameness and the uniqueness of the Polish people, you are in the moral right. When historians write books a hundred years from now the glory will go to the nation of Europe that resists the destruction of multiculturalism. All others will be written off as fools.
pauls  - | 30  
24 Apr 2009 /  #794
open the floodgates to the third world

Sounds familiar? SamenessLove is now saying the same thing z_darius used to say. Where is z_darius now?

England is a shining example of the weakness of multiculturalism. The destruction of cities, the increase in crimes, social problems, and destruction of freedoms.

Millions of Poles have chosen to move to England, despite its weakness of multicultralism. Are you saying they are the cause of destruction of cities, the increase of crimes, social problems, and destruction of freedom?

Indeed, freedom of racial abuse in England has been destructed. Thank God!
Seanus  15 | 19666  
24 Apr 2009 /  #795
Some have contributed to the increase in crime and social problems for sure but the bigger issue is with more long-standing disputes between Pakistanis and Blacks. They are largely responsible for the complications.
southern  73 | 7059  
24 Apr 2009 /  #796
When historians write books a hundred years from now the glory will go to the nation of Europe that resists the destruction of multiculturalism

You mean Russia?
pauls  - | 30  
24 Apr 2009 /  #797
When historians write books a hundred years from now the glory will go to the nation of Europe that resists the destruction of multiculturalism.

The glory will go to ...... Nazi Germany?
SamenessLove  1 | 33  
24 Apr 2009 /  #798
Hitler's problem was his approach. It was in how he went about resisting universalist ideologies, not that he did. His motivations resulted in revenge and aggressive war. Your comment brings up a good point. How should a nation should go about resisting multiculturalism to retain moral standing in the eyes of other nations and even the world? But there is a danger in that also, as you can't satisfy everyone. In addition, we all know that history is written by the victors, so it could be said that Hitler's problem was that he lost, regardless of what he did, how he did it, or what his motivations were.
pauls  - | 30  
24 Apr 2009 /  #799
pauls:
The glory will go to ...... Nazi Germany?

we all know that history is written by the victors, so it could be said that Hitler's problem was that he lost, regardless of what he did, how he did it, or what his motivations were.

Thank you for your honest affirmation.
z_darius  14 | 3960  
24 Apr 2009 /  #800
Sounds familiar? SamenessLove is now saying the same thing z_darius used to say. Where is z_darius now?

I'm here. And I'm still saying the same. Just like your Chinese ascendants would have said when building the big wall.

Poles won't build the wall, but the surely feel the same way your forefathers felt when Mongolian herds were pushing on to destroy the Chinese way of life. As a Chinese, I hope you will understand that, and I'm sure you appreciate the fact that China today, even with the defunct wall, is far from being an open country. Perhaps that's why this is the oldest country in the world, unlike many others that lost their identities to the invading herds.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
25 Apr 2009 /  #801
Thank you for your honest affirmation.

seems you were a bit selective there in choosing the words you wanted to summarize his argument with. see some irony in your use of the word "honest?" nah, it's probably over your head.
pauls  - | 30  
25 Apr 2009 /  #802
Just like your Chinese ascendants would have said when building the big wall.

You are referring to my ancestors who built the Great Wall. Yes, that was the mentality of my ancestors 20 centuries ago.

Now let's have a look at Chinese history.

The integration of China with the rest of the world developed over the centuries - the Silk Road leading to Europe was built to facilitate integration, trade and commerce. Many foreigners (the most famous, Marco Polo) came to China, and commercial and cultural integration was prevalent. As a result, China was the most powerful country in the world for many centuries until 250 years ago.

Because of its wealth and power, many Chinese started to call foreigners "barbarians", and the government (Qing Dynasty) decided that it should close its doors to "inferior people" to prevent them from perverting Chinese culture. So the Chinese lived behind closed doors when the rest of the world advanced. The decline of China did not take long - 200 years later, China became one of the poorest countries in the world.

30 years ago, things took a turn. China opened its doors to the world once again. Since then, trillions of dollars of foreigne investment has been injected into the Chinese economy. And as the wealth accrued, China also became part of the international community to invest in foreigne countries such as Poland, generating jobs and boosting the economy there. Many Chinese left China to live abroad, and more and more foreigners chose to come to live in China (yes, including Poles). Children of foreign migrants started to appear in Chinese national teams in the Olympics. The result of integration? China has been the fastest growing economy in the world for the past 30 years, and it looks like China is on course to become the world's most powerful country once again.

The rise, decline, and rise of China, the contrast is striking.

I belong to the "yellow" race (East Asian). You belong to the "white" race (European). Are you inferior to me? Am I inferior to you?

Those who are truly inferior are people like z_darius (and SamenessLove, if it is not the same voice), racists, white supremacists, and Nazis. This is regardless of your race, despite the fact that you have a sheen of "superior" white skin to cover up what is inside - hatred towards fellow human beings.

What you promote is to downgrade human beings into the most primative zoological species. It is against the most basic human decency, against civilisation.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
25 Apr 2009 /  #803
So as I understand pauls' point, unless he thinks what the Chinese did then was wrong, it was ok for the Chinese to protect their way of life then but for people in Poland that would be wrong. Is anyone else getting the same logic from his posts?

This statement:

Those who are truly inferior are people like z_darius (and SamenessLove, if it is not the same voice), racists, white supremacists, and Nazis. This is regardless of your race, despite the fact that you have a sheen of "superior" white skin to cover up what is inside - hatred towards fellow human beings.

does not compute with:

pauls, I'm refering you back to what I posted on page 20 post #787, if you can provide some argument that is logical and devoid of slander then I look forward to your response.
pauls  - | 30  
25 Apr 2009 /  #804
So as I understand pauls' point, unless he thinks what the Chinese did then was wrong, it was ok for the Chinese to protect their way of life then but for people in Poland that would be wrong.

I have not spent time to comment on whether Poland in the 21st centrury should follow what China did 2000 years ago. The reader may draw his/her own conclusion from the following paragraphs.

Quite honestly, I have no strong views on the issues of mono/multiculturalism. What exactly are they? Even if 100% of those living in Poland are white and catholic, I would still call it multicultural, because there are 40 million of them. What exactly is Polish

way of life? There are 40 million ways of Polish life.

Please read carefully my correspondence with Sameloveness/z_darius #801-803.

What I am truly against here is those who incite racial hatred under the disguise of "resistance to multiculturalism". I would like to draw your attention to the posts recently written by SamenessLove (z_darius) in the relevant threads. If you still could not see any justification of what I wrote, SamenessLove (z_darius) would agree with you.
SamenessLove  1 | 33  
25 Apr 2009 /  #805
Those who are truly inferior are people like z_darius (and SamenessLove, if it is not the same voice), racists, white supremacists, and Nazis. This is regardless of your race, despite the fact that you have a sheen of "superior" white skin to cover up what is inside - hatred towards fellow human beings.

Interesting. So you do believe there are "inferior" people. Inferior how? Is it my intrinsic value as a human? And what does it mean to have value as a human being? Does hatred of other humans automatically lower the intrinsic value of the one doing the hating? What exactly is it about hatred that's so bad?

Yes, the influx of Poles to England adds to this problem. Most of it comes from the non-Caucasian third world though. Poles are Caucasians and even though they may have different propensities for crime or other negative social issues, they are capable of integrating with the English to a degree that is manageable. Racism is a reaction, not a cause. Then the bureaucracy of individuals who are hell bent on stamping out a natural reaction (racism) to the forced influx use force to suppress the reaction. This force has to be authoritarian and leads to loss of freedom.

But irregardless, the influx can harm English identity and culture. There are many English who are not happy with the Polish influx of immigrants. As a Pole who does not wish unmitigated immigration into my nation, I sympathize with them.

What I am truly against here is those who incite racial hatred under the disguise of "resistance to multiculturalism". I would like to draw your attention to the posts recently written by SamenessLove (z_darius) in the relevant threads. If you still could not see any justification of what I wrote, SamenessLove (z_darius) would agree with you.

"Incitement to racial hatred". What does that mean exactly?

What is the problem? Pain and suffering? Injustice maybe? Do you for any moment consider that those who are against multiculturalism ALSO see pain, suffering, and injustice? Do you think that this racial hatred you speak of occurs in a vacuum? "Just because"? It is a defensive reaction, not "preemptive aggression".
Castanea  - | 75  
26 Apr 2009 /  #806
I don't see what is so hard to understand. These false diversity ideals are already leading toward our downfall as a race.

People support diversity, but support miscegenation? What? You enjoy different people, but support race mixing? Another PC paradox.

They enjoy different cultures, but support the unnatural process of third world immigration, which dilutes the native European culture and blood. Have you seen what the turks have done to Germany? How many hookah bars, kebab shops, have you seen there?

This PC phenomena is the most blatant anti white force on this planet. Right now in my country, a white man was shot in the chest by a black man. The man was asked if he was racist, he said no. He was shot for wearing the confederate flag. The black man is only charged with aggravated assault and possession of an illegal firearm!!? He should be charged with attempted murder + hate crime as well.

For heaven's sake, third worlders need to stop having sex and start building up their countries! ries. I swear they are a bunch of retarded rabbits.

But alas, whitey is always the bad guy.

Also here is an interesting fact. According to the Tuskegee institute, 1 out of 4 people "lynched" in the history of this country were white, and less than 4000 people were lynched, which puts it far below the number of people murdered every year in this country by blacks. Lynching has become a PC propaganda talking point and most of the people who use it as a talking point have no grasp of the real numbers.
SamenessLove  1 | 33  
27 Apr 2009 /  #807
Another PC paradox.

How about this one: "Celebrate our differences" and "We are all the same". Freakin' delusional at best.

Also here is an interesting fact. According to the Tuskegee institute, 1 out of 4 people "lynched" in the history of this country were white

Right, what you'll notice is that proportion wise, the number of whites lynched vs blacks matches current and historical index crime levels (mostly murder, rape, robbery). Back in the day, lynching was simply vigilante punishment for crimes (actual or perceived).
Castanea  - | 75  
29 Apr 2009 /  #808
Sameness are you white nationalist?
lesser  4 | 1311  
29 Apr 2009 /  #809
How should a nation should go about resisting multiculturalism to retain moral standing in the eyes of other nations and even the world?

I agree with you post but I would change this sentence above.

Not a nation but individuals should resist to multicultural utopia and they should retain moral standing in their own eyes.
Castanea  - | 75  
29 Apr 2009 /  #810
It is good to see more WNs here

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