POLAND TO SIGN US MISSILE SHIELD DEAL TONIGHT

"Bush administration officials have been adamant in asserting that they warned the government in Tbilisi not to let Moscow provoke it into a fight"

Indeed.

Hey, BB if you're still talking with me - so what were the real reasons with the Ribbentrop-Molotov pipe? Already thought it out?

Germany and Russia made a deal to build a new, bigger, better pipeline, what's it to you?
Do you feel threatened? Or is it just the money you won't get any longer??? What???

It's nothing militarily...we are not trying to invade Poland BUT TO AVOID IT, you should be happy!


Georgia started the fight hoping the US would fight their fight...The Idiot gambled and lost and has now to pay for
it, to bad!

Should have cared for the facts before you someone accuse of propaganda, shouldn't you...

Honestly, who cares who started it? It could have been the Georgians, maybe it was the Russians Special Forces who simply pretended that Georgians killed 4 Russian soldiers? What is important is that Georgia is invaded by Russia now. The fact is that Russia is getting richer and richer (thanks to oil and gas money), and they spend all their income on rebuilding the military and the Russian Empire. And they will do things by force if they need to, that's at least what they are trying to say by invading Georgia. Georgia is a lesson for other countries, and the lesson's motto is "Watch out, Russia's back!"

Georgia is hardly a lesson...not many so stupid empty air heads like Saakashvili!

What lesson for Abkhazia and South Ossetia?

Has anyone heard of this? Russia to build missile shield/interceptors in Syria and Belarus.

Ever heard of Amber pipeline project, didn't you?


Y E S
So don't be surprised we are looking for safety somewhere else


If we are talking about money... how do you think: which pipeline costs more (MUCH MORE) to bulid and utilize: the one build under Baltic or the one build normally on the ground?


The "idiot" version of truth:
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/13/AR2008081303364.html?wpisrc=newsletter

And what can you say about heroic, "peacemaking" Russian troops marching further into Georgian territory? I thought they wanted to "free" SO only, and now what? Breaks in their tanks got malfunctioned so they can't stop or what?

You feel perpetually threatened, regardless what we do!
It get's funny really...
You would be only satisfied if we would cut all our ties to Russia and show them the cold shoulder as you do, am I right?


Think logical here...it's still a business contract!
Do you really think Gazprom and EON or BASF would be innit when they don't see a fat profit looming for them?
They invest millions - they want them back (+ some more)


I've read they are emptying the georgian barracks of their war material...not a bad move! Don't want to give them Georgians the idea they can try sh*it like that again....

Hahahahaha :D I admit, I still don't know if you are really so young and naive or you only pretend to be...
If this was a bussiness contract then pure bussiness merits would decide which pipeline is build

...YET...

...EON, BASF and Gazprom decided to build much much more expensive variant of it. Halloooo! They decided to earn much less than they could do! What does this mean??? Are they insane or what??

And please, don't make me laugh again saying that such giants as EON or BASF (not to talk about Gazprom :D) don't have anything to do with politics :)


Could you point all those cases of our cold shoulder we were giving to Russia, I'd gladly hear about them.

when hell freezes over

This is what the grass roots America is pushing for, along with both the fringe right as well as the fringe left. It's gonna happen soon, I believe, and most of the Presidential candidates are talking about it quite a bit.

This is the right thing to do of course.. All this cockamamie meddling in Europe, the hell with that! It's none of our business.. You put this missile shield in they'll just complain about it anyway..

Feck up Bush in there again.. just get out of office, you clown, before we're all in the graveyard! A hillbilly with money is a dangerous thing.

I dont really like the idea. I have studied my share of history.

1, im alittle polish
2, im an american and I know the countries history

All I can see here is that this will cause some kind of BS or harm to Poland sometime in the future. Poland has never been an Imperial war-mongering country. I think Poland would be better off being good friends with Germany and Russia, hell even though I live in the U.S. I think it would be great to see the 3 of them become a super power, instead it looks like poland might be a pawn in the USA/Soviet global games. But u.s. said it was for leverage against the middle east if needed. I think its BS and automatically makes Poland a target, not only from Iraq but Russia too.

Somehow nobody is rushing to help Georgia in the time of crisis now.... Do you think anybody from EU would rush to help Poland if Russia or Germany would invaded them? I'd rather see the shield deal signed so at least the the two neighbors think twice about it.

You speak out of your world view in which everybody is only out to kill poor Poles.

But it was you, the "old and experienced" one, who didn't know that "russian propaganda" was right and Georgia attacked first, started that all!

And I can tell you as a german that the german industry is foremost out for profit and never would decide for huge investment only because they could p*ss the Poles on the leg....

You are a russophobic paranoid! But that's nothing I can help you with!

Some more infos for you:

nord-stream.com/en.html?no_cache=1


Help me out here....others countres, far away, should help an agressor because...???
An attacker who is neither in EU nor NATO???


And kill off all our investments, not likely!
Why are you keep talking out of your arse???
Or is it that what freepers get told by Fox nowadays?

In civilized countries this "Georgia attack" is called self-defence, my friend


Blahblahblah... that's all your arguments, as usual.
You have NO ANSWERS for my questions, don't you?
Yet instead stop and think for awhile, you repeat all the formulas your brain was washed, only louder.

Well...so was Nazi-Germany's against Poland....or against Russia some time later!
I dunno in which world you live but in everybody elses an attack is an attack!


And you should try some other news input but Fox...they didn't even tell you that Georgia planned their gamble for months! Losers!

Get lost...friend!

Yes, yes, exactly as now you know it's Georgians fault, 60 years ago whole Germany knew it was Poland who attacked radiostation in Gliwice.
Except they where wrong...


Is Reuters ok? reuters.com/article/europeCrisis/idUSLG325097
How can you now explain this another act or Russian aggression?
Oops, I forgot - you never answer uncomfortable questions...

Sure...YOU say when an attack is WRONG and when an attack is RIGHT!
Sorry that many disagree with your opinion! To bad...not going to change that!

There is no question about that...:)

PS: Your Reuter's link s*ucks...it didn't start at the beginning.
Here a timeline of the events for the "brainwashed" between us!

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7551576.stm

DAY ONE

agree. Most people miss that important fact.

No...most who see the russian action in the context KNOW and don't ignore that fact!

I meant the posters in this thread. Don't jump at me. I don't like it!

Ididnotjumponyou! :(

BB, maybe they forgot to teach you about this in schools, so...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

The similiarities of that incident to today's war in Georgia are... fascinating.

OK, back to the topic then.

Fox News try to lie and brainwash...with Ryszard they obviously succeeded! :(

Yes, of course... poor citizens, with their speech so carefully prepared... I wonder by who? And what did they say - where is the rest of their families? Still in Russia, huh? Don't make me laugh...

If you would had watched you would know that's a family which lives in San Francisco and who were for holiday in the region with family.

Fox News somehow found it a nice idea to interview real witnesses...to bad they did tell the things how they were not how the US want them to be!

Give up R. the Russians had been totally right and your own gov want to sell you the big, bad, dangerous russian bear whom the world has to be rescued from of course by the gallant Georgia (US) the same way as they sold you the Iraq war - nothing but lies! WAKE UP!

This is exactly what I've said - where are they relatives? In Russia :)
This interview means absolutely nothing (except Fox failure, maybe). Why they don't ask about georgian families which were forced to live in SO for last 15 years under Russia occupation? Now the same fate awaits for whole Georgia, because Russian so-called "peacekeeping" forces wants to keep more and more...

Exactly..."Fox-failure" or better "caught in the act at manipulating the news"!
Isn't internet nice? Hard to keep your lies nice and tidy..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ossetia#Demographics


As a Pole I have thought you would understand the fight for the independence of a people!

So Russia is going to nuclear bomb Poland then? Ohh crap.