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Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland?


lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Apr 2009 /  #31
En example of Polish trouble makers pls.

Wrong question, you should ask whether I know people who would be in favour to run sane foreign policy.
McCoy 27 | 1,275  
26 Apr 2009 /  #32
Russians have done the biggest damage for their own people durring communism.

thats why i cant hate russians as a nation. it would be like yelling at retarded kid who shited its pants. they are just a bunch of puppets on the strings pulled by a few. poor people.

Why shouldn't I? The same was during French revolution. Just wait another 100 years and you will venerate Russian revolution as French one.

oh, poor costya. just repeating what they made him to learn. like a programmed toy. you know costya ive changed my mind maybe being stupid is not so bad option for you. if you realise the complexity of world it could make you sad. but now youre just a happy useful idiot.
Salomon 2 | 436  
26 Apr 2009 /  #33
Why shouldn't I?

In my opinion Russia novadays would be less dependent from gas prices and other branches of your economy would be much better developed.

Just wait another 100 years and you will venerate Russian

I hope that sooner than in 100 years Polish and Russian politicians will celebrate anniversary of the end of communism ... together in friendly state of mind ... who knows maybe in Kalinigrad which could be the symbol of friendly Russian and Polish neighbourhood.
Ironside 49 | 10,462  
26 Apr 2009 /  #34
Poles&brains? Are you joking dude? You don't need them, you have you president, it's enough.

thats all ?
you have president too, dude!
lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Apr 2009 /  #35
I hope that sooner than in 100 years Polish and Russian politicians will celebrate anniversary of the end of communism ...

We can read here very negative opinions about Russians. At least in opposition to the French celebrating anniversary of the French revolution they don't celebrate anniversary of Bolshevik revolution.
Borrka 37 | 594  
26 Apr 2009 /  #36
they don't celebrate anniversary of Bolshevik revolution.

Huh ?
They not only do preserve Lenin's mummy but still celebrate October putsch - just the name of the holyday has been changed LOL.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Apr 2009 /  #37
Most of them don't celebrate unlike the French.
Borrka 37 | 594  
26 Apr 2009 /  #38
Most of them enjoy October days off drinking vodka on dachas.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Apr 2009 /  #39
They drink because they have a free day not because revolution. On other hand they are accused of anti-Semitism because so many blame the Jews.

One question, in your opinion people in Poland celebrate "workers day"? Of course people give a damn about workers day, they simply enjoy another free day.
Borrka 37 | 594  
26 Apr 2009 /  #40
Never try to compare Poles and Russians.
Two different dimensions.
60 - 70% Russians are still dreaming of the commie times.
OP ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
26 Apr 2009 /  #41
Bull§hit! I am not dreaming, though I am 100+% Russian. What I am dreaming is just uniting Europe under the Russian sway.
Borrka 37 | 594  
26 Apr 2009 /  #42
uniting Europe under the Russian sway

It's gonna never happen Kostik.
Your elite needs nice places for vacations .
Like France, Italy, Austria ...

Once you can rule it devastation would be perfect - no way around it.
Exactly like in Kaliningrad LOL.
southern 75 | 7,096  
26 Apr 2009 /  #43
is just uniting Europe under the Russian sway.

Will you leave some place for the Basques?
OP ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
26 Apr 2009 /  #44
Nope, only for Greeks. Only in gratitude. They have assured place beside...
Torq 32 | 2,897  
26 Apr 2009 /  #45
What I am dreaming is just uniting Europe under the Russian sway.

Hilarious - why should an Asian country rule over Europe?
You mean like a new Mongol invasion? LOL
OP ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
26 Apr 2009 /  #46
You mean like a new Mongol invasion?

Come on Torq, you know that to be Russian is better than to be circumcised...
Torq 32 | 2,897  
26 Apr 2009 /  #47
Even better to be both - Russian and circumcised. You know, Lejba Bronstein and co.
McCoy 27 | 1,275  
26 Apr 2009 /  #48
you know costya you are first nationalistic homosexual ive ever met. it must be hard because your fellow gay collegues probably dream about more liberal and democratic country than todays russia and dont wanna hear your propaganda bollocks and russians who share your ideas would kick your ass hard before you would finish complementing tovarisch putin. maybe thats the reason why you post your bulshit on PF.
Ironside 49 | 10,462  
26 Apr 2009 /  #49
Bull§hit! I am not dreaming, though I am 100+% Russian. What I am dreaming is just uniting Europe under the Russian sway.

Well, why dont you wake up then?
being on drugs all the time is not good for your health, dude.
Anyway you have got huge territory but have no brains to develop it, dude.
Trevek 26 | 1,702  
26 Apr 2009 /  #50
Kaliningrad is no threat and less opportunity from a BritCit point of view because it is almost a miracle if a UK citizen can get a visa whilst living in Poland!

Kaliningrad is Russia.

Not wanting to start a huge war here, but what exactly is/was Russia/USSR's claim to Kaliningrad, when it had been part of Germany for quite a while (post carve-up of Poland).
Sasha 2 | 1,083  
26 Apr 2009 /  #51
We can read here very negative opinions about Russians.

But what one could expect after Kostya's provocations? :)) He doesn't even think the way he puts it...

just the name of the holyday has been changed

It has nothing to do now with the October revolution. Just another holiday quite like lesser said...

60 - 70% Russians are still dreaming of the commie times.

Of course not. This is just ridiculous. "Dreaming" really few. Most of those you mentioned merely being more or less honest about the (usually) late soviet socialism. But they don't want it back. I wonder what time will it take you to eventually realize that our ideology is unlikely to depend on nationality. I know people in Russia with Polish ancestor in the recent past who with the foam at mouth defend Russian mentality and lifestyle on the whole and particularly Mr. Pu.

Never try to compare Poles and Russians.

Why not? From what I've seen so far we are the two closest Slavic nation (if not count the former USSR states). :)

though I am 100+% Russian

How did you evaluate that? :) Am I Russian? What percantage would you give me?

Lejba Bronstein and co.

He actually said that Russians should be exterminated and partially enslaved.

Anyway you have got huge territory but have no brains to develop it, dude.

That's tricky, buddy. Yes we've got a huge territory but it's mostly not advantageously located. I for one have a friend who was raised in the town some 500 km to the north from Magadan. I don't really know how anything except for salmon, seals and bears can live over there. Polar night, minus sixty at winter and daily temperature drop in summer can be 30 degrees (+30 day, o or "-" at night). Mature people who ventured to leave it for some better place in terms of climate burn out and die within several years.
McCoy 27 | 1,275  
26 Apr 2009 /  #52
two closest Slavic nation

thats what i think about russian and polish souls. imo we are even closer than russians and your exrepublics. but on the mental and rational level we will never understand each other. our realtions has been cursed forever (;
Torq 32 | 2,897  
26 Apr 2009 /  #53
But what one could expect after Kostya's provocations?

Spot on, Sasha. Kostya's talking bullsh1t and he's getting the same in return.
The first rule of internet forums: Don't stir sh1t if you don't want to be splashed
with it
LOL

I agree that we have more things in common than things dividing us and it's
only a question of time when our relations will finally get back to normal.
One day we have to say to ourselves that it's time to leave history to the
historians and move on. Sooner it happens the better for both Poland and Russia.
gumishu 11 | 5,335  
26 Apr 2009 /  #54
they say every trouble is an opportunity and can be turned into a success
Salomon 2 | 436  
26 Apr 2009 /  #55
At least in opposition to the French celebrating anniversary of the French revolution they don't celebrate anniversary of Bolshevik revolution.

I see some differences between this two revolutions but it is not subject of this debate.

thats why i cant hate russians as a nation. it would be like yelling at retarded kid who shited its pants. they are just a bunch of puppets on the strings pulled by a few. poor people.

Russian system is not what Poles like, it doesn't change the fact that Poland should be much closer in foreign policy to Russia. Even if Poles and Russians don't agree on some historical issues ... for example case of Kaliningrad should be solved because current situation is lose - lose and it can be easily transformed into win-win solution when both sides gain.
OP ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
26 Apr 2009 /  #56
Am I Russian? What percantage would you give me?

Your Surname? Give me two last letters please.
Ironside 49 | 10,462  
26 Apr 2009 /  #57
Nobody said it would be easy.
OP ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
28 Apr 2009 /  #58
How did you evaluate that? :) Am I Russian? What percantage would you give me?

You know Alexander, we have simple and easy to use standards to estimate percentage of Russianness:

-ov (100+% Russian)
-ev (80-100% Russian)
-in (60-80% Russian)
-oy (40-60% Russian)
-iy (20-40% Russian)
-ovich (5-20% Russian)
-man (hopelessly jewish)

Do you see, unlike Germans we can determine one's nationality without expensive mesurments of sculls.
Ironside 49 | 10,462  
28 Apr 2009 /  #59
How about
-ski

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