How do you Poles feel about the fact that so many Poles work abroad?

wow what an interesting debate many interesting points and commment, many idiots too (not much changes in with people--from any place)

...i would however like to point out one detail about race, Poles in fact are a different race to English, as are English to Scottish etc. Us English are from Saxon descent (anglo saxon) and ^^Poles are a Slavic race^^^- along with Czechs, Slovaks and Russians.

Hitler hated Jews yes but he was also racist because he despised the Slavs(or Slaves as he sometimes reffered to them), firstly the Russian slavs but next the Poles.

You can find his racist rants on the Slavic RACE in a copy of Mein Kampf.

- Interesting indeed. Where did you take this information from?

jesus did you not even know this, it was your polish ancestors that were sent to concentration camps and were killed because they were slavs. Hitler alled the slavs and I qoute "untermench" or subhuman.

And no I dont agree with this statement. I HATE NAZIS

Firstly and foremostly, my time studying the third reich, main part of my History degree
secondly, i am half german .....my grandmother was a member of the hitler youth (PLEASE dont think i am bragging)
European history is a passion of mine.

to know the future, look to the past

One thing that humans continue to fail at- is to see that history repeats itself

Pretentious too it would seem.


Please provide evidence of this alleged superiority listing dates, times, movements and referenced reliable sources. If you fail to do this you will be a lying creature and Polonophobe....etc.

I dont think you're paranoid Puzzy.

Its not in your mind, everyone really does hate you.

History is repeating itself, its called the european union.

*sigh*

the only thing britain gets from the EU is immigrants, we are the second strongest economy in the EU. We pay in billions and get f*ck all out of it.

If the immigrants are really bleeding us dry, then why are we still the 2nd strongest economy in the EU?

Billions in taxes for u so u can live in council flat ,lazy wanker

The economy has been on a decline the past two years. Inflation has outstripped the average pay rise by a massive 3%. This has had a serious effect on the working class as payrises will not be able to acheive an eonomic equilibrium, because of undercutting by immigrants.

Govenrment reports and independant commisioning reports have consitantly concluded that immigrants contribute very litte to nothing for our economy.

The problem lies in the fact that they send so much money home. U have to look at the quality of the work they do and gauge it from that

Noimmi is trying to have a serious discussion here so u don't need to call him names

thank you seanus

Anytime

noimmigration- you clearly have some strong views, which is fine, however some seem misguided to me, like your crude EU flag with a swastica plastered on it.

It is a little sad to me that many people have such a short and narrow view and understanding of history and politics perhaps you might understand that one of the inital reasons for forming a blueprint of what is now the EU was to prevent anything as horrendus as WW2 ever happening again in Europe.

In this simple sense, it has suceeded, our generation has been fortunate enough to see peaceful Europe, let us not forget that.

I understand your reasons for wanting out of the EU i really do, but I feel after much consideration that the benefits outweight the problems.

Let us not also forget that Britain has a wealth of its own social problems and issues with skills & employment which existed before Poland joined the EU.

**Sorry guys for going slightly off topic, i know its frustrating but this is merely a response to a memeber who comes on here with a one track mind (spreading propaganda from intelligent, accurate and ^not at all biased^ sources as the 'daily mail' )regardless to the question being asked or discussed.***

Noimmi, step up to the plate/podium

The EU has turned into an unelected dictatorship. Does noone see the danger of this. Obviously eastenr europeans dont care because they are thrown scraps from the eu that come out britain, germany, and frances tax payers pocket.

Britain has lost its soviergnty, its capability to make its own policies, etc. We do not get any kind of financial incentives from the EU. Our taxes are given away to eastenr europe. we get nothing but unwatned immigrants in return.

F*CK THE EU

I agree with that.


i don't know if thats the real reason but it does seem they are more than happy.


it has not done yet, although i would say there is a chance of that in the future if the EU keeps on developing the way it is.


i also agree with this, the distribution of money around the EU is far from even, far far from even.


granted there are those immigrants, who are 'unwanted' or 'unneeded' however there are those who are more than useful, if only the useful out numbered the unneeded and unwanted.

Ok, i hear you, once not so long ago, Ireland was recieving those 'scraps'-- no look at it, a new country, and no funding the less well off states.

I see what you mean as the UK is one of the richest states, but I can think of worse things that tax payers money could be spent on....and *is* actually spent on too...!!

Soo, how about the inevitable moment when Turkey joins...? do i need to ask your views on that ;)

lol, i know you were not asking me, however we will cross that bridge when we come to it :) :):):) there is already enough to discuss about the EU let alone the chnace of Turkey joining

had this discussion taken place some years back it could have read....Ireland (or spain/portugal/greece) puts nothing in to the European union, just take, take, take...money for road building, infrastructure development, transport initiatives blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile they send their workforce abroad undercutting.....etc. Do you understand what European cohesion funds are attempting to achieve? Do you really believe Britain would gain economically, socially or politically from leaving the EU? Final question...How do POLES feel about the fact that so many POLES work abroad? lest we forget what we are talking about!! nuff said.

- I suspect the racist Polonophobic Asian creep-pretending-to-be-Scottish who calls itself 'nonimmigration' (the brute should be rather called 'kickoutthePoles) contributes nothing to British economy. A dole grabber? Try to question the presence of countless Asians in UK (and Europe) - you'll see how outraged the creature will get then. :)


- Really? What would you base your high opinion on, Seanus? Aren't you trying to make acceptable in this forum the unsavoury presence of this lowest toilet-level scum and compulsive liar (re: all the nonsense about, the, pardon me, alleged 'govenrment reports and independant commisioning reports' [sic] allegedly declaring that Polish guest workers don't generate any profits to UK). So you too, Seanus, are Europhobic (and Polonophobic?) after all? The major in EU law doesn't help in this respect?


- Pardon me? So you would like these people to be forced to spend all their hard earned crappy money in Britain only? Why? What alleged 'problem' would it constitute that they send a little of their money home, having generated immense profit to Britain? What total nonsense, generated by the media psychopaths, is that anyways to allege they send home lots of money if they earn extremely little (e.g. Poles' earnings are the lowest of all the foreign groups working in UK), the cost of living in UK is one of the highest in the world, and they pay taxes (apart from the exorbitant Home Office fee) to boot? Would you demand from the countless British living abroad, e.g. in Spain, that they spend their money in Britain only? Furthermore, there are incomparably more non- EU Third World folks making money in UK than there are Poles and other former Soviet Block now EU guest workers. Would you also demand that those Third World people spend all their money in Britain rather than taking them back home? How about British businesses abroad? Should they spend all of their profits exclusively in the foreign countries where they are operating? Should we Poles demand this from British firms and individuals working in Poland?

I must admit I've noticed a fair amount of Europhobia in Britain. Well, you are going to have to choose eventually, guys, I think, whether you prefer close ties with Europe, or with the Third World, and, of course, with the crumbling - maybe slowly but surely - US. If I were you I'd instantly choose Europe.

O.K. try to put these countries out of EU and you will see how soon your economy slows.


It is for your benefit to be able to sell your products having to pay less for transportations and to have good infrastructure for your tourists.


They work for your development and growth.

F*cking hell, do you NOT listen.

the measly amount of tax that the poles pay get rebated to them, the poles themselves consume far more resources than they pay into. It costs 5,000 pound to send one polish child to school for a year.

The poles are immiediately allowed to claim for a variety of benefits once in britain, translation services for these bloody foreigners cost nearly one billion alone.

The tax poles pay isnt worth ****.

Worth more than the tax you are paying.


How much is it costing me to send you to school ?

They rip off the Poles big time but instead of leaving them in peace, let alone thanking them,they insult and abuse them, and accuse them of being those who do the rip-off. Indeed the human capacity for viciousness seems limitless.

its the poles that are ripping off the british taxpayer.

So how much tax did you pay last year ?

you make my point well!


utter boll*cks!

Poles are white.They are the best immigrants to have.A real oasis.We need more Poles.