How do you Poles feel about the fact that so many Poles work abroad?

Such logic is lost on the likes of paranoid Puzzy

- Do I do so? Wherein? And yes, you can fight racism by keeping out racists.


- Strangely enough scores of those Polonophobic 'individuals' are from places like this. I know one of the main reasons why they attack us - they are scared of us. But this doesn't lessen the offense.


- From my viewpoint, you've got to see a bit - just a tiny bit - clearer.

I consider what you have said about "third world people" to be racist.


Branding entire races of people as racists is not fighting racism.


And scores of them are not from places like this, but with European heritage.
Many of these people have nothing against Poland or Polish people.

People who throw stones in glass houses tend to be idiots.

Wouldn't you agree Puzzy?

- Enter Bubba a.ka. Van Fuk. He believes in his grass-and-coke-corroded mind that if he brands me as crazy a sufficient number of times, every one will start believing I am crazy. A Goebbelsian attitude? Bubba, how would you recommend one should fight racism? By not fighting it at all, only allowing racists to finish one off? Especially if one is from Poland and racists from the Third World, eh?

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Youre too thick to realise you represent what people dislike about the Polish, aren't you Puzzy


Bless

- Wow, so according to Bubba I Puzzy represent something people dislike about all Poles? Really? What is this something I represent? Please explain, Bubba - if you can. As usual, Bubba is also branding all Poles. And he lives and does business in Poland. Can there be anythng lower than this?

Oh what are you babbling on about now Pizzy, you drug addled Russian buffoon.

Why on earth do you think Im this Bubba fellow. Where is your proof?

- Are they? I've got no experience with people throwing stones in glass houses. Obviously you do. You wanted to sound deep, didn't you? But what did you actually mean? Please put it in plain words - if you dare. Did you accidentally mean that being merely Polish I should shut up and put up?

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- Aren't you? Even if you aren't, it doesn't matter - you sound exactly like him. There's no difference between the 'two' of you as far as I'm concerned. And what if you are Bubba? This would mean you're a liar to boot.

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The English proverb can in fact be traced back to Chaucer's 'Troilus and Criseyde' Pizzy but please, try and stay on topic would you.

U r not racist if you despise poles you are xenophobic. Poles are not a race as I showed you in my earlier post! I think you failed to reply to it because you have extremely poor English writing skills.

U cannot keep out racists because most racists are in the closet so it is almost impossible to know who is racist. In a way every1 is racist a bit! The only way to know for sure if a person is racist is to know their thoughts which isn't possible!

Well, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. nobody brands you as crazy. You are crazy and you work hard to make sure everyone here knows it.

I will if you do it anywhere near me.

Oh the irony....

Too bad that this whole topic is about Puzzy now. It could be an interesting topic. It's all about racism now and I don't really think the subject has a lot to do with racism..

Very unkind to say things about people's English writing skills. Is it really that important? We're all trying right.. Mine are not perfect either but I'm learning and learing is actually one of the reasons I'm reading this forum.

Is it possile for those who are interested in the subject, to just read the first post in this topic again and give a decent answer, and for all those who are not seriously interested to just **** off and spit all the frustration inside you over some other topic? Or to just keep it inside you? (actually only referring to Puzzy, let that be clear..)

And thanks to the people who did try to give an interesting and decent answer! (even if it's criticized by Puzzy afterwards :) )

I agree. When I posted something about British people moving to other countries for their career prospects, at least one fellow Briton replied "Good luck to them". I agree. From what I have seen, this may be the prevalent attitude amongst Poles who remain in Poland. It's a shame this thread is not helping to answer your question.


I find your post there a little difficult to understand. You have accused someone of having bad English writing skills whilst using fairly bad English writing yourself. Were you arguing with Puzzy, myself or both of us (depsite our obvious differences of opinion).

I ask because the main brunt of your attack seems to be Puzzy with his nonsensical attitude towards a wide variety of people, but you also seemed to make an argument with my usage of the term "racism".

Race is subjective. It is not something set in stone. I'm not interested in race. Neither am I particularly interested in the boundaries between xenophobia and racism - it's pretty much all the same thing to me.

i work with poles in england there hard working and a credit to poland. i have made good friends with them.

- Good for you, mate. God bless you.
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thanks puzzy. i take it you are polish. I work with 300 men and 6 of them are polish, they are among the very best workers in my place of work. i want to learn polish to help the other poles who dont speak english at my place of work. have you any good advice for me to learn.

Mostly puzzy! There is a difference between xenophobia and racism though and I hope you realize that! Poles are not a race! Yes race is something set in stone because it has to do with relation not location. Some races are typical of different locations but it doesn't mean that because of residency in the location you are of that race! U might be thinking about ethnicity and not race but race is most certainly set in stone! =)

Ethnicity is more flexible dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethnicity

RACE IS NOT

When you're dealing with Racism, they have the same meaning.

- What do you mean by 'Poles are not a race'? Do you mean Poles don't belong to any race? Raceless people?

There's the popular enough expression 'human race.' It suggests humans are a race. Does Rocky Mason believe humans actually 'are not a race'? And if Rocky Mason believes that humans are a race after all, does he believe Poles aren't humans?

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The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary of Historical Principles (based on the brilliant OED) states under 'race' (noun), amongst others, thus: 'A group of persons, animals, or plants, connected by common descent or origin ... A tribe, nation, or people regarded as of common stock ...' (Clarendon Press. Oxford, 1991. v.II p.1735).

On the front page of today's NYTimes there's an interesting article of the large number of Polish immigrants working in Ireland. Apparently, as the Irish birthrate sags, for the first time lamost ever, the Poles, rather than leaving due to lack of work, are staying instead, doing the odd jobs the young, upwardly mobile Irish, don't want to do.

Quite a switch from generations past, when it was usually just the opposite; the Irish were poor and emigrated to the UK or the US to get work. Since the Celtic Tiger began roaring after the nuclear energy as well as the Internet boom of the 90's, the situation has reversed itself and now the Irish are staying at home, while others from abroad, such as the Poles and the Romanians, come to Ireland in search of better jobs and and economic prosperity!

Huh! I've yet to see that - most of them are on benefits.

Here here! The man is as mad as a box of frogs on LSD!

You really have descended into farce. You have officially become a chariacature of yourself.

- Any evidence of this alleged by you madness of mine?


- What do you mean by 'chariacature'? I couldn't find the term even in my OED. :)

... More creepy characters mobbing up against moi? Vulgar mediocre people like mobbing up against, and, acting as a crowd, bullying somebody superior to them.
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Apart from you rampant paranoia and stupid crazy Crow styly comments, no real evidence, but as usual the the majority rule and I would say that the majority ofthe board think the same as me that you are in fact

A CRAZY PERSON!!!

- What do you mean by the above expression?


- And what do you specifcally mean by the above expression?


- Do you mean that everything the majority says is necessarily true? Boy oh boy.


- But do the majority think it in accordance with facts?


- Ah, so you're yourself admitting you've got no evidence to back up your allegation that I'm crazy? So who's not only stupid but also a liar here?

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I have holidays on my mind...I meant to write apart not apartment.


In your case I would say so.


I think your constant ranting on are facts enough.


see above comment. The evidence is in your attitude and your posts.