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Sasha  2 | 1083  
11 Aug 2009 /  #91
Ít has never been proven, its not proven, so its not an illness.

Brilliant sentence!!! Now try to find there a whit of logic.
Firstly if one thing wasn't proven right, doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong.
Secondly, what it is if not an illness if it prevents people to procreate and adapt? :)

so why not tolerate someone who prefers a d.i.c.k in his a.s.s when he is in the privacy of his home...

It does not concern me at all what he does with his a.s.s does it to you?

That's none of my business of course. But I'll never tolerate those people who proclaim sticking a dick to one's ass normal. Do you understand me now? So yes pls do whatever you want in your house but don't spread it worldwide neither say it is normal, because that may affect psyche of those who're not sick so far.

Behind all that crap about being tolerant (it's crap because most of people are tolerant... pls don't confuse it with being ignorant) people forget to mention the crucial thing. Being gay is not normal.
IronsE11  2 | 441  
11 Aug 2009 /  #92
haha hope you are just being sarcastic!

Not at all. I genuinelly think Sasha is on to something here. I'd go as far to say that I have never before come across such an enlightened and well educated take on homosexuality. In the past, I always endeavoured to treat disabled people with dignity and respect, but now I can see the error of my ways. Homosexuality is an illness that is destroying the moral fabric of our society. The "normailsation" of homesexuality signifies the destruction of humanity as we know it. I can only but see a future where all of our kids are gay, unless we localize this problem now. This modern phenomenon of homosexuality must not be allowed to flourish.

This would never have been accepted in the great Roman civilization.

;-)
MareGaea  29 | 2751  
11 Aug 2009 /  #93
Yet I consider homosexuality an illness

You cannot be serious on that one. You must be joking.

M-G (is not in de mood for jokes at the moment)
IronsE11  2 | 441  
11 Aug 2009 /  #94
Being gay is not normal.

Spot on. These people talk about homosexuality as if it has occured naturally amongst humans and other species since the dawn of time. You can't expect posters like mvefa to grasp this concept! Homosexuality is a modern phenomenon whch is detroying the already underpopulated human race. Why can't people see this?

don't spread it worldwide neither say it is normal, because that may affect psyche of those who're not sick so far

Again, great point. I constantly live in fear that if we accept homosexuality as normal then I will start craving d1ck. I don't want to be gay, yet I can feel all of this acceptance turning me. I think I'm developing a serious illness.

What would you prescribe me Sasha?
MareGaea  29 | 2751  
11 Aug 2009 /  #95
it has occured naturally amongst humans and other species since the dawn of time

There is an inscription from ancient Greece or Macedonia that's over 3000 years old that describes in full detail homosexual intercourse between two men and even more men came there. You could say that it was an ancient gay meeting-spot. So, it has been from all times.

Homosexuality is a modern phenomenon

*Ringgggggg* Wrong answer, you do not win the 64.000 Dollar prize.

M-G (we have come a long way to accept and tolerate everybody, even the Poles we accept now, don't let it fall back into the dark ages. Thank you.)
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #96
Secondly, what it is if not an illness if it prevents people to procreate and adapt?

Damn! i must warned my brother, he is hetero as hell, but he does not want kids, i have to tell him he is sick !!!

because that may affect psyche of those who're not sick so far.

We believe it is born with it, or other reasons.

By actually saying it is a desease, you personally are saying that you are vulnerable to it. So if i put a gay guy, lets say nearby you, at work, school or wherever, you will also become gay?

Again, great point. I constantly live in fear that if we accept homosexuality as normal then I will start craving d1ck. I don't want to be gay, yet I can feel all of this acceptance turning me. I think I'm developing a serious illness.

hahahaha well if you start craving for d.i.c.k that means that somewhere deep in you, you are a homo...its ok..see? we tolerate you, we are not gonna bash you!
Sasha  2 | 1083  
11 Aug 2009 /  #97
Similarly, I also advocate the localization of disabled people. Disability isn't normal, it's an illness

You can't equal those things. If one doesn't have a leg then we say (s)he has a physical impairment and nobody wants one's not a gaudy lot. Whereas being gay is mistakenly and I suspect deliberately considered normal. Here's the difference.
Lucy  - | 23  
11 Aug 2009 /  #98
IronsE11

Spot on. These people talk about homosexuality as if it has occured naturally amongst humans and other species since the dawn of time

Hasn't it? One of the main reasons why homosexuality has come out in the open recently is mainly due to lack of influence that the church has in society. Have you noticed that wherever the church is powerful, homosexuality is frowned upon?

So, how do you know that it hasn't occurred naturally? I'd love to know
Sasha  2 | 1083  
11 Aug 2009 /  #99
You cannot be serious on that one. You must be joking.

Prove me wrong. :)

Sasha (has always thought that Jews could joke even being woken up at night)
*peace* there was no anti7tism in my words...

Damn! i must warned my brother, he is hetero as hell, but he does not want kids, i have to tell him he is sick !!!

No you may either stop twisting my points or pay attention to your logical thinking. :)

IronsE11

Thanks for the loads of graphomania. Feel free to bring up worthy points at any time. Ö=
irishdeano  5 | 304  
11 Aug 2009 /  #100
So, how do you know that it hasn't occurred naturally? I'd love to know

Because your not suppose to have Anal Sex

I honestly think were it has come from is something to do with the child when its born, it is something to do with the brain being more attracted to men, such as having a bit more femised brain. I dont know lol
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #101
No you may either stop twisting my points or pay attention to your logical thinking. :)

It is logical, see? you claim that homosexuality is a desease cause it blocks the reproduction (a natural process)

so someone who chose not have children is also defying this natural concept..so in other words sick...no difference.. paint it any colour you want, its the same...
Tymoteusz  2 | 346  
11 Aug 2009 /  #102
A little cancer never hurt anyone?
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #103
Yeah, look how good you are doing now!!
MareGaea  29 | 2751  
11 Aug 2009 /  #104
has always thought that Jews could joke even being woken up at night

I have a severe case of morning sickness and then I tend to be more sensitive to remarks that annihilate or ridicule 3000 years of civilization and all the struggles and fights we have been through in order to accept, respect and tolerate, thus growing larger, richer and more complete as a civilization. And saying that everyone who does not fit in the ideal world because they are different is sick, has a disability or should be beaten up is just a regression to the place where we come from.

M-G (look where we are now, we accept and tolerate everything, even the Polish)
Tymoteusz  2 | 346  
11 Aug 2009 /  #105
Yeah, look how good you are doing now!

clever girl!
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #106
I think sasha doubts a bit on his sexuality, therefore he is afraid that by being near gays, might release the woman in him, and go out of control..

hehe just joking!!
IronsE11  2 | 441  
11 Aug 2009 /  #107
Thanks for the loads of graphomania. Feel free to bring up worthy points at any time. Ö=

My work here is done. Ignorance is bliss so you must be one happy f*cker ;-)

Lucy

Please tell me you can see the irony of my posts!
MareGaea  29 | 2751  
11 Aug 2009 /  #108
clever girl!

If you two don't stop quarrelling right now, both of you girls are going to get the spanking of your life by me...!

M-G (skirts up, panties down - with flat hand)
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #109
If you two don't stop quarrelling right now, both of you girls are going to get the spanking of your life by me...!

Sasha started it!!
Lucy  - | 23  
11 Aug 2009 /  #110
irishdeano

Because your not suppose to have Anal Sex

So, if this is the case, why do straight men do it to their girlfriends/partners?

IronsE11

Please tell me you can see the irony of my posts!

Is that what it was? My bad :(
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #111
according to Sasha, they are sick!
Sasha  2 | 1083  
11 Aug 2009 /  #112
It is logical, see? you claim that homosexuality is a desease cause it blocks the reproduction (a natural process)

Excuse me are one of two who are under 18? Do you feel the difference between "I cannot" and "I do not want"?

And saying that everyone who does not fit in the ideal world because they are different is sick, has a disability or should be beaten up is just a regression to the place where we come from.

Thank you for words. :)) Now please prove me the contrary (id est this is not an illness). Still waiting...

Sasha (waits for tolerating Russians)

Ignorance is bliss so you must be one happy f*cker

Sorry bud, I simply don't forget to think in the world of obedient sheep like you are.
IronsE11  2 | 441  
11 Aug 2009 /  #113
according to Sasha, they are sick!

I'm genuinelly worried. I got a blow-job last night and it felt great. I come on PF this morning only to discover that I'm actually a sick man.

I'm going to ask my girlfriend to stop taking the pill immediately. Preventing pro-creation is not natural, and therefore should not be normalized. In fact, as a result of what I've learnt today, I'm going to have to abstain from sex altogether until I'm ready to start a family.
Sasha  2 | 1083  
11 Aug 2009 /  #114
Does ignorance infectious too?
IronsE11  2 | 441  
11 Aug 2009 /  #115
Excuse me are one of two who are under 18? Do you feel the difference between "I cannot" and "I do not want"?

But a homosexual could of course choose to have a child with a women. Many do, despite their sexual preference.

Secondly, what it is if not an illness if it prevents people to procreate and adapt?

On the contrary, it appears to be you who does not understand the difference between "I cannot" and "I do not want to"!

But as you're clearly a little bit simple I'll let you off.
MareGaea  29 | 2751  
11 Aug 2009 /  #116
Now please prove me the contrary (id est this is not an illness)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality

M-G (read and weep)
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #117
Sorry bud, I simply don't forget to think in the world of obedient sheep like you are

But you are a sheep, dont you see? that is just communist-soviet thinking at its most!!
Pan Kazimierz  1 | 195  
11 Aug 2009 /  #118
Look Pan Kazimirez I know alot of Polish people I have Polish friends in USA and Poland and I live with a Polish person so the **** I do know about how Poland view gays. dont tell me I dont know.every Polish person I know dont accept or tolerate them which is a shame.

The f*ck you don't. Your research pool is worse than Freud's, cut the self-righteous BS. We are here discussing how the Government of Poland, and People Living In Poland treat homosexuals. The fact that you, halfway around the world from the area in question, "know" some people who may have once been in Poland/speak Polish or even just had family who once lived in Poland, makes your expertise, in this discussion, absolutely worthless. Your misadventures in the People's Republic of Los Angeles have no bearing on the topic whatsoever.

Silly Americans... get to thinking the whole damn world revolves around them.

So you would also go to a party of young straight men and women in the middle of the night with loud music to beat them up?

If they're outside my window? F*ck yes! It's so much longer-lasting and more relaxing a way of dealing with that problem than calling the police. No need to talk to the snooty cop at the door about why he should go crash their party...

according to Sasha, they are sick!

A point which, along with every other one of Sasha's points, you have been quite unable to coherently and intelligently address. Questioning her gender and orientation does not count. Nor does calling her a Communist.
mvefa  5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #119
If they're outside my window? F*ck yes! It's so much longer-lasting and more relaxing a way of dealing with that problem than calling the police. No need to talk to the snooty cop at the door about why he should go crash their party...

Nop, it is called primitive

according to Sasha, they are sick!

well i have a lot, but he keeps on with the sickness broken-record, so no sense to battle back..
IronsE11  2 | 441  
11 Aug 2009 /  #120
By Sasha's reasoning, someone who chooses not to procreate (i.e. uses contraception) is mentally ill, as this mind set prevents procreation:

Secondly, what it is if not an illness if it prevents people to procreate and adapt?

Yet a homosexual who decides to procreate (but actually has a preference for d1ck) is not ill at all.

As the above stated concept has ruined his argument totally, it leaves him with no rational justification for his backward homophobia. As it may take him a while to come to terms with this fact, we should show him some respect this by giving him the time for quiet contemplation without tearing apart his pathetic argument any more.

Sincerely

Irons.

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