Openly gay in Poland

It's not the only thing you've said though, is it now?

You've also advocated the ostracization of homosexuals and suggested that people can be indoctrinated with homosexuality ("fake homosexuality"). If only for the latter point, you've shown just how ignorant you are on the matter.

Since you are chosing this disease as a possible factor in Homosexual world, then you are just not well informed.

But if you are defining homosexuality as an illness:

Then HIV pacients, should not either be singled out...

Excuse me guys I'm a bit tired of your... hm... limited capabilty of handling the incoming information.
I'm gonna ride my bike... :)
Take care!

Hardly. I've backed up the points with sound reasoning. You have made assertions such as your classic "fake homosexuality" claim (which is frankly laughable), yet I fail to see the basis of your argument. Tell me, how many young adults do you know who have engaged in anal sex, or chosen to follow a homosexual lifestyle, purely because they thought it fashionable? Unlike you I know many gay people (I make this presumption based on your clear lack of understanding), and I have to say they would p1ss themselves laughing at what you have posted. Tell me Sasha, how many gay people do you know well?


Then explain it. How would you propose homosexuality be "localized"?


OK mate, I appreciate your informed contribution to the debate. Make sure you remember to attach the stabilzers.

You too, and be carefull in the streets, you might come against a homosexual and caught it from him :D

Hm... simple example... when you hear on TV "vote for Putin". Some go and vote for him, some not. How comes? Think of it too.

And make a tatoo... "Sasha is not homophobic". I may even spell it for you in cyrillic.

Iron, maybe anwer you later. So long!

Sounds suspicious.

M-G (always on the look-out)

Because they explore, But it can cause serious damages to the girl.

You mean the prolapse?


Don't tell us how you smell.


Like women I suppose.


No.You should instead carry everywhere a logo gay and happy and your admirers will appear.

poop?

Probably when he exhales he can fertilize 5 polish women.

Lame!

Which you could call a disease if you could show that they are not fat by choice.


Yes, let's talk Down Syndrome: people are born with it, it is genetic, and it is abnormal. Just like you say homosexuality is. Is Down Syndrome not an illness? Because if it is, you can't justify that homosexuality isn't based on these three fundamentals.


This was never my argument, but since you asked, I consider there to be a difference between 'not endorsing the lifestyle of' and 'ostracizing'.
Let me give you an example here: you've probably read the Harry Potter series. So have I. Why have I read all of them? I was in the States, and I wanted to be able to criticize them in front of fangirls (philosophical value of the books, my Polish ass!). Regardless, you'll recall, probably, the time when the author, publicly, let loose the words "Dumbledore is gay".

Now, at this point, were I there, I, like a sane, rational person, would be disgusted at the implications. I'd made (to be rude) jokes about his quite unusual relationship with and seemingly attatchment to what began as an 11-year-old boy, and still a minor throughout, but I'd always believed, in some corner of my mind, that the author would have the good sense not to publicly make them officially valid and effective.

But the crowd was of quite another sort of (hive mind) mentality, and their response...
Wild applause???

You tell me how that makes sense, and I'll start explaining to you how endorsement of things like 'Gay Pride' marches and the like can turn people gay.

So in your opinion a homosexual person will always have sexual intentions with a kid...so there is no possibility that a homosexual may have a amical relationship with a minor, it makes him inmediatly pedos.

That is short-sighted thinking.

You are actually quite funny, did you know that?

But explain how it can be that someone who seems to be intelligent, like you, can come to such line of thinking.

Following this line of thinking, one can:

- become a retard when endorsing retards;
- become a rapist when endorsing porn (a homosexual rapist when endorsing gay-porn);
- become a person with down-syndrom, a handicap, a mental disability when endorsing things like the special Olympics.

But, what exactly do you want? All gays disappear? I can tell you upfront that's not gonna happen and if you argue too much and too publicly against it, there is even a chance that you can get sued for discrimination based on orientation.

M-G (if this is intolerance - I just wonder how long tolerant ppl will tolerate intolerant ppl)

I never said any such thing. However (I assume you've read the book), one must keep in mind when reading books that when an author writes something, he or she usually does not do so without forethought. So then, keep in mind: the homosexual in question in this series is the headmaster of a presumably very large (apparently even international) school, and a major political figure besides. The typical student, person, apparently even employee does not see him except on rare occasions. The main character in question, however, merely a student that he is, is called to see him regularly, and is even able to access his office at will - and is quite welcome to, to boot. I'd always assumed that this was just a plot-hole, and a tool used to make the main character appear much more significant than logic dictates that he should be. Then the author has to go ahead and introduce the possibility that there were... other reasons for this special attention the boy receives, and people are delighted???


In person? Yes.


Easy: you chopped my sentence in half and ignored the question at the front, and thus the context.


Not at all. To be honest, I don't at all mind the presence of gays, so long as I don't have to interact with them. Hell, I wish there were more of them around - the more women for me!

We wil never be able to enter in to a meaningful debate if you genuinelly believe this. As you constantly refer to homosexuality as an illness, then perhaps you can see how ridiculous it would be if I suggested that endorsing the disabled way of life (installing wheelchair ramps in public places or promoting the Paralympics for example) could "turn people disabled". Whether gentic, hormonal or otherwise, homosexuality is most certainly not something people choose to be. It is a subjective state of being. If you spoke to a number of homosexuals on the issue then you would understand this quite basic concept.

However, without conclusive evidence on the subject of what "causes homosexuality" I urge to actually speak to some homosexuals and ask them whether they turned gay, or whether they knew from a very early age that they were different (i.e. they didn't feel the attraction to the opposite sex that they were supposed to). A number of my homosexual firends have found the idea that they "chose" to be gay, or were converted to homosexuality through "endorsement of the gay way of life" absolutely laughable. If you actually suggested this to them, they would dismiss you as a ignorant moron who simply doesn't know what they are talking about.

If you can provide some evidence to back up your above assertion then feel free to share it. Otherwise, I'm inclined to go with what people with practical experience of the nature of homosexuality tell me.

So let me get this straight. Because Dumbledore is gay, he is therefore a paedophile? And because such a central character in a best-selling kids book turns out to be gay, kids will be rushing to take up the "gay lifestyle" in their droves?

Little Johnny: "Dumbledore likes d1ck, I want to like d1ck too"
Little Jimmy: "Bend over Johnny"

And to think that you appear to actually believe this utter rubbish!

Jesus wept.

^Good job repeating the exact same points, and therefore fallacies, as MG and that other guy already did. Please address the complete sentence/paragraph, rather than chopping out part of it to suit your context.

I didn't even read his post. I was addressing the utter drivel you have posted. If you care to present your evidence for the following statement:


I am all ears.

You can't possibly make more of a fool of yourself than you already have. But please try by all means.

me too. I would like to read his reasoning in details. I am getting popcorn:)

You really don't get it, still?
Address the complete sentence first, retard. It's not that complicated. If quote-mining within a public forum where everyone can see the original post is all you can throw at me, you're an idiot, and not worth arguing with in greater detail. Didn't I tell you that I'm not here to play word games???

Yes I do. You have made a completely ignorant statement which you can not back up with any evidence or rational argument. When taken to task on this and asked to explain, you hide behind accusations of the straw-man defence and a play on your words.


I'll ask again:

What is your reasoning for this assertion, and where is your evidence to back up this theory:


Ok then.


I presume that this is in relation to the paragraph above it:


Oh... so you want me to coment on your outrage that Dumbledore (a character in a fictional book)was revealed to be homosexual? You want me to comment on the fact that you had already joked about Dumbledore possibly being a paedophile, and that publicaly revealing him to be a homosexual actually makes these "jokes" valid and effective.

Actually, despite the moronic nature of what you have posted, I've already commented on it:


Ok, now I've addressed your complete sentence, how about you answer the question I have put to you and back up your theory.

Pass the popcorn aphrodisiac ;-)

I think Pan Kasimir is gay, but still in the closet.

M-G (revelations, revelations)

Doing this is gay
Sausage (self-confessed twat)

get yourself a proper signature dude

no problem. I always find those arguments about gay people very entertaining. I think is going to be a good science fiction movie;)


we don't know that, but I have read many similar posts by straight Polish men on here.

No, you fool. I want you to explain to me why an entire crowd of (something like) absolutely normal people would be so intensely overjoyed at hearing that a character who is known for without question spending far more time than he logically should with a particular teenage boy is a closet homosexual. Did you really not get that until now?


This is a very common argument used frequently by very stupid people in response to anything that is contrary to the partisan 'Gay Rights' movement. You are not making yourself look exceptionally bright here.

Can you get some for me too? And a Coke. If they've got any jerky I'll have some of that too.

There are not many things like life which I like more than watching a homophobic moron making a complete fool of himself.

yes, it never gets old, does it:).


no, I don't but I highly recommend double smoked poledwica;)

Neither do you with your slightly backward views on a common, generally accepted and tolerated phaenomenon as homosexuality.

M-G (tsk)

I don't know. Why the f**k does it matter? What does this have to do with your theory that people can catch or be indoctrinated with gay? Are you as upset at the thought of Hagrid spending more time than he logically should with Hermione? After all, he's a heterosexual male, and she's a young girl.

Ok, I'm just guessing here, but maybe Dumbledore spends a lot of time with Harry, because he is a very powerful young wizard with the power to help him defeat the Dark Lord Voldemort. Whether Dumbledore goes home and makes sweet wizard love to a fellow wizard or witch is neither here nor there. But for some bizarre reason you appear to take particular issue with it.


So then, keep in mind: as Hogwarts is a presumably very large (apparently even international) school, the statistical chance of at least one of its many teachers being homosexual is quite large.


Just wait until he actually tries to back up his assertion, as opposed to banging on about totally irrelevant points relating to fictional novels about mythical wizards.