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Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Outlanders, a film about Poles in London [5]

I've been trying to access that website, watch-movies.net

watch-movies-links.net they changed the domain but my polish sense was tingling and i found them.
Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
History / UPA - Ukrainian Insurgent Army. How they killed poles in Volhynia (1943). [139]

First of all, we fought Poles as long as we fought Russians.

No you didnt, ruthenian nobles actually welcomed us and embraced our civilization becoming polish themselves :)

As you know many times we gave a good spanking - to both of ya.

No you didnt, we massacred your pathetic little rabble at Beresteczko and then repeatedly in other battles untill you ran to Russia for protection, then it was Russias turn to beat the crap out of you :)

Then directly after WW2 we have kicked your asses in Galicja, you never had a prayer against Poland.

Second, how do you know if they were Ukrainians or Russians when even now after Ukraine is independent for 18 years, many Poles I talked to, don't have a slightest idea in language, cultural and historical differences between the two.

We have thousands of accounts of polish survivors who lived there and did have an idea about the cultural differences between the two :)

Third, we always fought

And lost :) Ukraine has never won a single war, cossack uprisings were having fun untill we got our crap together and them you got massacred, Russia also massacred you and after WW1 taking Lwów was like taking candy from a baby, you were unable to organize even a remotely decent defence.

WON OUR INDEPENDANCE

Not really, you were given your independence by Russia, thats not really "winning it" is it ?

Fourth, do you know that out of 8.7 million Soviet soldiers fallen in WW2, 1.4 million were ethnic Ukrainians? It

That only proves you're good at dying in battles, hardly a good thing is it ?:)

So Sokrates, be kind to the fallen and be grateful that they gave us whatever we have now.

Oh i'm kind to our fallen, in fact i have great sympathy for Ukraine and i believe that its our future to work together i just enjoy pissing you off :)
Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
History / The movie Defiance is a big lie (heroes that saved Poland suppored communism) [102]

So I don't know what the complaining is about.

The movie never mentioned any of the massacres they did, the men were basically genocidal maniacs and did it on a religious/ethnic basis ( Jews targetting Poles for being polish ).

Imagine you make a positive movie about an einsatzgruppen, they were no better than nazis.
Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
Love / Being remarried in the catholic church poland after being divorced [16]

I don't know what is the stance of the Vatican in such situation. However even if you would find such priest as you wish then your marriage would not be valid anyway. Priest must abide to the rules.

Anyway, what is the sense of joining to the CC only to cheat? :)

Rubbish lesser, the marriage was not blessed by catholic church, civil marriage is not seen as binding they can marry and it will be valid, also priesthood will be very helpfull and acomodating in a big city, sure he might have to bribe some old fart but thats our priests for you, full of shit and pictures of naked little boys.

MCA you will have absolutely no problem marrying in a large city, there might be some issues on deep province but otherwise your priest stuffed you with rubbish.
Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Yes, Asian states have more competitive stances and more potential.

Thats because they're anti-polish racists, if they were open and progressive states they'd be behind us.
Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]

That's good to hear :0 cultural bias more than anti-Semitism, true. As I said, Poles don't think about Jews that much.

Neither, justified reservations about an ethnicity that is hostile to Poles is neither racism nor bias.
Sokrates   
15 Feb 2009
History / UPA - Ukrainian Insurgent Army. How they killed poles in Volhynia (1943). [139]

wanted discredit Ukrainians and undermine their fight for independence.

Ukraine didnt WIN its independence, it was GIVEN its independence by Russia, after what UPA did to Poles the only thing that stopped polish army from coming down on Ukraine like a ton of bricks was Russia and as it is you got off easy with only "operation Vistula" being carried out against UPA by the Poles.

Russia is no saint and in WW 2 it was only slightly better than Nazi Germany but whatever else happened before and afterwards Russia gave you your independence, without it you'd be on the receiving end of the polish guns.

By the time WW2 ended polish goverment drew up quite some plans for pacification of Ukraine and while you had your UPA with rifles and pistols Poland had nearly a quarter of a milion regular troops and again if not for Stalin you'd be invaded the second Germany surrendered so bend down and kiss Russias ass for giving you independence and protecting you from big bad Poles :)

Many killings committed against Poles in Volynia were done by covered up KGB men (

Bullshit, at the time the majority of the killings were done Ukraine was occupied by Germans and the killings were done by Ukrainians.

Should I suck your d+ck too? Because I don't recall any war started by Russians

Oh there was a lot of them, also there's been wars that you wanted to start but got attacked earlier like 1920 and 1941 :)
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

It doesn't pay to make predictions.

It doesnt ? Gee i guess all those prognostic institutes in US must be a waste of money then.
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Of course this entire thread is useless, by the time Poland will become a first world economy the primary imigrants will come from Belarussia, Ukraine and Romania, they present much less challenge since our culture is so attractive to them and they're similar cultural circle.

Since we symphatize with these people they will be favored over muslims and blacks and by the time the border is completely open most opportunities will be already taken by eastern europeans so the colored candy will prefer to stay in their purtey liberal lands of the rainbow and racial riots.
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]

There does seem to be a lot of mutual respect between Poles and Jews.

Oh yes personally i respect them with a passion :)
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Bubba you personally have no culture so "your culture" is a bit of a mouthfull and you can feel whatever you like the fact is most once-upon-a-time immigrants and especially muslims are not assimilated whatsoever so calling them english is a bit of a stretch.

You are however correct, no polish person has anything in common with you, luckily.
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

you are obviously including the polish as an english minority...

Not at all but Poles are far less damaging, first of all there's no religion issue, second there's no cultural issues because we really have no conflicting ideals.

The only bad thing is we dumped dregs from our country onto England first so you might see some more polish beggars.

being white excludes them from inclusion in englands mass immigrational problems...

They are of course part of the problem but the least of them all, also as i have written and you ignored it skin itself is not the problem, its the civilization and cultrural background thats often tied to ethnicity thats the problem.
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

sokrates spent 4 months in england so hes actually an expert on multi cultural societies

Four months is enough to see that the minorities brought more harm than good to your countries, however if you're black or muslim which you probably are i can understand why you're frothing at the mouth.
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Thats not an admission. Im not anti Polish never have been members of my family are Polish. I know Polish people and their mentailities very well.

Clearly you dont.

y assumption that Poles are racist more so than most other nations is based on facts that i have discovered from my experiences.

That is a lie, i can make up "my own experiences" on the go to back up my point, personal experience is worthless in a discussion unless the opposite side can be trusted to be objective, you cannot.

Ive seen blacks referred to as monkeys in your news papers for christ's sake.

Really ?! Could you please name the title and issue date ? I will have the number in question within 30 minutes and we can resolve the matter.

That claim can easily be trashed with a number of explanations. The most obvious fact being there are no where near as many coloured foreigners living in or visiting Poland.

The claim could be trashed if not for the lack of any major reports on racism from Poland, media can miss that kind of stuff, EU commision for xenophobia for example cannot.

Fact, Poland is one of the least racist countries in Europe.

how am i racist?

i just counter your extreme views with equal ones, using poles as an example

you will never see me posting against blacks, asians, arabs, or jews on this forum

but when someone like you pops up with your biggoted views i cant help but take the piss

you never know, some of what i say to you might actually sink in, and next time youre in london you wont get your car keyed for being a kunt

what does a new paint job cost nowadays?

being a kunt can be a costly business...

How old are you exactly lad ?
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

you poles, youre just so redicularse

There's no "us Poles" there's just me here.

a self-confessed extreme right wing prejudiced bastard complaining about being a victim of prejudiced bastards

Correct, as said i represent myself not the polish nation, i am a right winger but i also consider myself inteligent and as such i have reservations rather than prejudice ( unlike you ) and i see value in diversity however i believe that risks outweight the pros.

youre too funny

And you're a primitive pathetic little racist and not funny at all :)
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

but we both know thats not the case

No we dont, you made a claim based purely on anti polish prejudice i countered it with the lack of media coverage and existing statistics.

wsws.org/articles/2000/feb2000/raci-f23.shtml
Read up and tell me where does Poland fit in racist Europe ? We're one of the more tolerant countries even if we're victims of prejudiced bastards like you.

oh tiddly, what sort of person looks to the press for their source of credibility?

Most, unless you're implying that all european newspapers are purposefully concealing polish racism and you're right ?:)
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

except poland is a homogenously white country where many foreigners are made to feel unwelcome - especially those with non-white skin

Could you forward a press release that describes how we make them unwelcome ? I know a few and they never complained about our hospitality.

so its hardly suprising that the number of racist attacks are suposedly low, because many foreigners dont want to go there

Of course it could be just that we're not racist and do not assault minorites and you're twisting that fact to fit your prejudiced view of Poland:)

poland is a racist country with an unusually large number of idiots

Ah yes that would be my cue to pm a moderator, i believe in free speech to a great degree but if you're an anti-polish racist you clearly have no place here.

how does that sit mr shtink?

It doesnt, its lying dead together with the rest of your prejudiced anti-polish logic.
Sokrates   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

There is no clear difference between a slum and a poverty stricken area.

Used to be no difference, the colored slums became crime infested hellholes however while for example poor districts of our cities are not.

or a total neglect by the govt

What ?! Have you any idea how much american and british governments pour into these s--holes ? How do you think these people can even afford to have a thousand kids per family ?

The support is there, its the minorities that are unwilling to use it effectively, they prefer to get drunk and make another kid or rob a white bystander blind rather than give their kids some proper education or buy a condom so they wouldnt bring yet ANOTHER child into their s--hole world.

The govt simply neglected them, giving them little or no social amenities.

Bullshit! They get everything the whites get in the same share, its not like government goes "we have you bloody niggers so you wont get the same access to health care".

Blacks and muslims have the same access to social privileges as native whites, they just dont utilize them instead squandering everything the western society can offer them, its like a gift of king Midas, except everything they touch turns to shit.

You just cant say a race is crime loving.

Yes i can, i also have proof of that so you cant call me a racist, take a look at black Africa which absolutely fell apart once the whites left, the only country which is relatively well of is the Republic of South Africa where a ruling class includes a significant amount of ? Whites !

Build good homes in praga, warsaw and U will see people adjusting to a new life.

Why do you keep babbling about Praga ? Praga while poorer is nowhere near a London slum, i can walk there all day long without fear of being mugged.

Praga: bank-zdjec.com/foto_galeria/1508_HPIM7236_1_b.jpg

Tell me that looks like some black and muslim slums in London ?

Blacks have been underprivileged around the world..ever since they were taken as slaves. Africa has been ripped off its wealth..its oil, its gold and diamonds by almost every western country and its still been ripped. Do U expect them not to be desperate? I could explain in details if u insist.

The problem is that blacks have been given free reign in Africa which had working rail, economy and society and as soon as whites left it to blacks it all broke down, blacks were given the same priveliges in UK, US and they still manage to be 80% of the dregs of society in both countries, US is little better off but thats because blacks there didnt have much cultural heritage so they took on the western one.

wait... have we just jumped from multi-cultural society to massive immigration...?

Its one and the same, i have a black optician, an asian cooks for me in the restaurant and my friends wife is half vietnameese, thats 3 people i know that are foreign or semi-foreign out of more than a hundred friends i have, thats not a multicultural society.

In order to get multicultural you need to less significant numbers in, i'm against that unless they're white europeans or colored immigrants who have been in Europe at least 4-5 generations since i dont want to become a race-riot ridden hole like UK.

are you actually suggesting as a brit i have more culturally in common with some bumpkin pole who grew up in an underdeveloped society than the british black kids i grew up with on the streets of south london...?

More or less, also because it is our economy thats underdeveloped, our society is every bit as developed as any other western one given that we have developed at the same time, in the same region and under the same cultural influence.

Of course this does not apply if the black kids are fully assimilated but few of them are, even those living for a few generations.

Fucktwats like you will always look down on everyone none british but thats your problem and issue.

if you go in to a predominantly black neighbourhood with the attitude you display on the forum then it is hardly surprising you got your arse whomped

So parking a car before a home where a guy we have been interested in employing and i actually went out of my way to go and recruit him counts as offensive ?

the problem is you

The problem is you and idiots like you who ruin their own great old european countries with fukwad liberal policies that destroy your national integrity, i sincerely hope Poland never goes the way of completely open borders, we should be picky as to who we let in, few blacks and NO muslims, ever.

White Europeans i'm fine with, same cultural circle, they're going to assimilate just fine.
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
Love / Love my polish girlfriend alot but under pressure from family [166]

What would you then say to English citizens who don't want Poles in their country

I completely symphatize with them, i'd be annoyed too if foreigners flooded me like this, as for the topic the guy is being a little bastard towards his girl since he apparently made up his mind about his daddys anthrax factory over her.
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Well, there are slums in UK history too. Poverty often causes that more than anything else. You're saying that anyone who is not white cannot be civilised but I have met some pretty uncivilised white people. We could go on like this ALL day but we won't. ;)

No i'm saying that muslim and black minorites do not want to be civilized, the blacks just leech of the social system while the muslims try to force their way of life and their values down your throats ( i assume you're british ) while reaping all the benefits of the western civilization.

Notice that nowhere do i state imply or believe that they're some sort of inferiors as human beings, they are however inferiors as society members, social groups and minority groups.

Yes there is a problem in the UK that it's gone "Politically Correct" crazy. That's politicians making decisions based on...what? They think people will be offended.

The same problem exists in US and every other country that became multicultural, for a civilization to thrive there needs to be a dominant group that lays down and follows the rules and customs of said civilization ie white europeans.

Also Misty since we're at multiculturalism answer me why are there no slums in Poland ? There are poor neighbourhoods but there's no slums western style ? I'd like to believe that its because we're awesome and orderly people but the truth is its because we're all white and have a single civilization background, western one.
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
Love / In love with polish cleaning woman, but don't speak an OUNCE of polish :( [57]

Do you have a boyfriend?.

Masz chłopaka ?

He is a very lucky man!.

Szczesciarz z niego!

I am trying to learn polish but dont understand it, yet.

Próbuje się nauczyc polskiego ale jeszcze niewiele rozumiem.

Can you teach me polish?, i could teach you danish?.

Nauczysz mnie polskiego ? Ja mógłbym cię nauczyć duńskiego.

This time i was serious, this is a pretty straightforward translation.

Also my previous one referred to the polish commercial against domestic abuse, there was a picture of a battered woman signed "because the soup was too salty" so if you would have shoved her and said that...well you didnt so i dont have you on my conscience :)
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

However people of certain color or religion quite often come from a certain cultural and civilization background, it so happens that the cultural background of most muslims and blacks could as well be a pit full of dung, these cultures are inferior, hostile and unable to acclimatize themselves to the realities of the modern western society hence the slums and aggressive Islam preachers.

Also one more thing, i just found out that St. Georges day parade in London got cancelled because of 'racists' i imagine thats a pretty important day for Brits and they just lost it because of this "flavor" you keep talking about.

Well here in our poor backwards Poland we get to enjoy our full national heritage and all celebrations without the need to be politically correct towards those wonderfull colorful immigrants.
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

However, Sokrates, you're going on about mass immigration which is when countries don't control who enter the country. There is a problem with that in the UK but it's not to do with colour, it's to do with amount.

Correct! Bravo! You're probably the first who get the point i'm making. I'm all for the odd black or muslim but i'm firmly against what UK or Germany is doing, Poland if it opens up should first and foremost open to the east instead of taking in hostile and unproductive minorities.

Just because someone points at some minority saying "there guys are messed up" doesnt make him a racist by default, sometimes a minirity group IS backwards.
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

flavour

Wait... so you're for massive immigration because it feels cool ?

yes my friend, and not every pole either...

There's no comparison, face it we're the same cultural circle as Brits, Germans and so on, the differences are superficial, not so with blacks and muslims.

Also you didnt respond, why are the slums almost exclusively black and muslim ?

Poland a relatively poor country by british standards has no slums, of course you can get mugged like everywhere else but we do not have neighbourhoods where you're going to get mugged because you're white.

In UK before i learned what black slums really are i got mugged once, threatened twice, some dipshit signed my car with his keys, ditch political correctness people you're hurting yourself with it.
Sokrates   
13 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Rrrright.

Japanese whisky, to name just one thing. Mexican food to name another. Spicy sauces to name yet another.

I can just buy those and what i cant buy at a supermarket i can order online besides having Imams preach bloody murder is a rather bad trade off for a good sauce.