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theblueenigma   
19 Apr 2009
Love / I can't trust Polish women any longer - where to meet a foreign girl? [123]

just to show to the world how extremely pathetic and low IQ you are blueenigma... you are the only one who believes that i am trismogietos... :)))

......and that you are not a 'Psychologist' :) I doubt you are the benchmark of my intellect or measure of my knoweldge, but then again a 'Psychologist' wouldnt attempt to measure ones intellect or deem them 'pathetic' on an internet discussion board :)

Enlighten me also as to why a 'Psychologist' would fell the need to come to an internet discussion forum to gain an insight into Polish females, and as to why no female will sleep with him ? :)))

So, tell me more about your career as a Psychologist in Poland ? :)))
theblueenigma   
18 Apr 2009
Love / I can't trust Polish women any longer - where to meet a foreign girl? [123]

Hmmm arent you the one thats allegedly been with over 100 Polish girls but you complain that none of them want to sleep with you ?

You also claim to be a 'psychologist' yet come to an online forum with queries about Polish women a thirteen yr old teenager would ask.

As luck would have it, I have studied a wee bit of 'Psychology' in my day, and I would bet all the sheep cheese in Krakow you dont know the first thing about Psychology. That and Im pretty sure you have more than one username here havent you petal ;)

That said, its fun to feed into your cyber ego. I admit you are entertaining and its amusing to observe how others take you seriously :)
theblueenigma   
16 Apr 2009
Love / I can't trust Polish women any longer - where to meet a foreign girl? [123]

His suffering seems remarkably similar to yours hmmmm

They are not to be trusted because in your other thread you have 'kissed' over 100 and none will sleep with you ?

You dont seem to have learned anything

Since clearly you have no success with Polish girls, why dont you find some German girls, or perhaps a pygmie tribe, maybe a tree branch even ?

Are you talking to trismegistos (yourself) If so why ?
theblueenigma   
16 Apr 2009
Love / Sick of a Certain Polish Lady - my boyfriends friend [34]

Men are men..saying that I did have a lovely new year in Cork a few years ago ;0)

Oh My God :O Magda is that you ????? Its me Patrick, from Cork. How could I ever forget that night in Mrs O Dowds barn, you divil ;)

Irish men are different, we are great !
theblueenigma   
16 Apr 2009
Love / Sick of a Certain Polish Lady - my boyfriends friend [34]

Do you think I should just let them be friends? But I think this girl seems to want more. Especially since she's considerably older (30) and illegal and does not even have a good job. My bf has a start up business and makes pretty good money so sometimes I think she's really desperate.

How old are you, I suspect young and naive ? He is making a fool of you, go out and find yourself a lovely Irish guy, their the best !!
theblueenigma   
13 Apr 2009
Love / I can't trust Polish women any longer - where to meet a foreign girl? [123]

Yourself and another poster here seem to be well matched.....'Joland'

You have similar personalities and the same mentality when it comes to finding a woman, or in Jolands case anything with a heartbeat....I suggest you both hook up, take turns being the 'lady' and forget about girls.

To be honest if I was a girl, I wouldnt hop up on you to get over a ditch :|

Sorry if I seem harsh, but I soncerely hope no woman is unlucky enough to ever come near you, oh wait they are all b*itches in your world

:(
theblueenigma   
4 Apr 2009
Life / Damn proud of being (half) Polish [77]

You cannot be half german or half polish, you are either polish or not.

One of the more sensible posts Ive read here this afternoon, well done
theblueenigma   
1 Apr 2009
Food / Krakow Restaurant Recommendations [17]

Would you believe it was the first bar I frequented in Krakow Mr Bubbles, loved the beer there and the layout, but didnt realise they served food . . . . must pay a visit back sometime, cheers !
theblueenigma   
31 Mar 2009
Food / Krakow Restaurant Recommendations [17]

Thread attached on merging:
Recommend a good restaurant in Krakow ?

Im taking my girlfriend (Polish gf) out for dinner in Krakow next week, and want to bring her to a place that serves authentic Polish dishes. Ive been to a few around the market square (the Georgian ones are great value and tasty) but as we both have a taste for Polish quisine, Im hoping to find some place that serves more 'authentic' food. Any suggestions would be appreciated :)
theblueenigma   
23 Mar 2009
News / I love Poland because... (in 10 words or less) [182]

Because I love my Polish girlfriend dearly and her family are wonderful. The people dont pretend to be cheerful and happy if they arent, unlike in Ireland. The food suits me and I love Bigos. Name days and the alcohol consumed for name days. Beautiful Krakow. Traditions are kept alive, and a sense of community is apparent still in the villages. Beautiful women in boots everywhere lol Family occassions and get togethers. Four distinct seasons unlike the Irish four seasons in one day. Krakow in snow. Mad Polish weddings. Zubrowka. Tomato ketchup on everything. The food market in Krakow. Ok, so I know that was more than 10 words but I dont care :P
theblueenigma   
7 Dec 2008
Life / MRI scanning machine in Krakow ? [5]

Ill look into both places this week. Both options are a lot better than waiting for one back home in Ireland, could take over a year there going public and private would be too expensive for me. Thanks a lot guys, you have been a great help, appreciate it !
theblueenigma   
6 Dec 2008
Life / MRI scanning machine in Krakow ? [5]

Im considering having a MRI scan (if they can still find a brain after my consumption of obscene amounts of Polish vodka recently at a Polish wedding) Does anybody know if there is an MRI scanning machine in any of the hospitals in Krakow, and the cost of having one ? I dont want a CT scan, just MRI
theblueenigma   
19 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Ha, ha I meant the other side. . .although Im not a great gambler so I would take neither :))

Had'nt taken that into consideration Deise, good point !!

Hard times ahead for many Im afraid

I suspect a lot harder than most realise

It sems to me that Poland is very exposed to the FX markets at a very turbulent time, based on the proliferation of Swiss Franc mortgages people have taken on

Very true, I mentioned it briefly and the consequences are scary

make no mistake, the days of easy credit are gone forever

and thank God for that Deise, hopefuly the next generation will be saved from the mountains of debt this one incurred. Traditionaly the Irish and Poles were always savers not spenders, perhapsm those values will return also . . .well there wont be a choice I guess
theblueenigma   
17 Nov 2008
Work / Living on the certain income in Poland [30]

Seanus is correct in everything he wrote . . some people on this forum talk complete crap when it comes to true figures for salaries and the cost of living in Poland. The simple fact is that whatever the reason most Polish people here lie about what they and others are earning in Poland and most of what is wrote here is complete nonsesnse and grossly exaggerated.
theblueenigma   
14 Nov 2008
News / Poland Needs to Shape up [43]

Post your own ideas for a better Poland
Nara!

Do you have your own stand up show ?

Post your own ideas for a better Poland
Nara!

Deport ridiculous clowns like you

This is Adrians other post . . . . lol need I say more ?

There is pure scientific evidence that there is no god. Everything today is science. Nothing just happens.

lol I would love to see this, pleazse share it Adrian :D
theblueenigma   
14 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Yes, the EU told you on numerous occasions that you were being very, very naughty indeed by having such an unfairly low CT rate! I'm sure that had you all quaking :) It really doesn't take a genius to realise that the European HQ of an American or Japanese company is going to be in a country that actually has the Euro. From then on, it's logical to pick the one with the lowest taxes. You - quite cleverly and correctly in my opinion - got the best of both worlds. What exactly is your problem with this?

Of course being part of a single currency is an advantage, but no more than any other country who has it. For many companies, being in a high risk, unstable country was unacceptable. They understandably wouldn't want to go to a country where inflation rates could rise to 12 and 15 percent, so of course a single currency is always attractive. That doesnt take from the fact that other than having the euro, the EU hasnt been of any advantage to Irelands recent economic boom and we were in Europe a long time before. Location, education, our historical relationship with America, our initative to create low corporate taxation, structures in place to attract foreign business, goverment grants, construction industry, infrastructure and at the time competitiveness were responsible for Irelands economic boom, not the EU :) It doesnt take anyone with an iq that reaches double digits to realise that EU membership had very little to do with our ten year boom, nevermind a genius. I dont have any problem, but I appreciate your concern :)

Now I'm just confused. You've been telling me what a poor opinion the world markets have of Poland's economy due to the falling Zloty.

Its ok, I get confused sometimes also, too much aspartamine usually does it :) Ill split what i think is confusing you into two.

a,"The weakening PLN at the moment is caused ENTIRELY by a global capital flight to the USD due to problems in the whole emerging markets sector, not Poland specifically." You stated the obvious then imagined I or someone else claimed Poland was the cause....nobody claimed that

b,"You've been telling me what a poor opinion the world markets have of Poland's economy due to the falling Zloty" yes, I have said it isnt an attractive thing economically to attract inward investment.

You see . . a & b, two entirely different points, just because other countries may thread cautiously if Polands currency free falls, it doesnt mean anybody thinks it is Polands fault :) Most of this thread concerns how the rest of the world and the credit crisis, recession, stock markets affects the zloty :) When a country imports goods, how does it pay for them? You got it, with its own currency. It supplies currency and demands product....wait. Not quite that simple. If you are a Chinese company, you want to be paid in yuan. So when a US company buys your goods, it needs to take its dollars, exchange them for yuan, and complete the purchase. So now you see, when a country imports goods, it supplies its currency and demands another. Exports are the reverse. There you have it, exports increase the value of a domestic currency, and imports decrease it. So when the rest of the world is in recession, and your neighbours hungary, germany etc are having problems, thus your currency will fall :) simple !

What I meant was that 1) Germany is a big contributor to the EU 2) The EU has promised to spend money in Poland and won't reneg just because Germany is in recession. Outsourcing doesn't come into it. All I said about outsourcing is that Poland's economy is too domestically driven to be that dependent on it.

Yes, I do own (high end) off plan property, have made a fair bit on one and am probably flat on the other. Maybe their values will drop a little in the coming year. I've got no problem with that as I'm thinking long term. The point I've been trying to make all along is that Poland has no inherent STRUCTURAL weaknesses (such as a collapsed credit market). Almost anywhere else in the world is in worse shape.

Yes, germany is very big contributor to the EU as its largest economy, as are all the billions from the other countries in recession. Nobody here claimed that Germanys recession means that they will suddenly stop contributing to the EU, just as Ireland wont :) It doesnt seem relevant to the discussion.

Polands growth was driven in the last few years by a 6.3 percent rise in domestic demand as falling unemployment and rising wages encourage Poles to boost spending. This in turn has spurred a 15.7 percent jump in investments as local companies scrambled to expand their output, however this is all relatively short term and cant sustain itself through turbulent times such as these. While no economy is completely dependent on foreign investment and outsourcing it is a massive injection of monetary value to any economy, thus why Poland is so keen to copy Irelands blueprint.

I agree Poland does have a pretty good 'spine' for want of a better word, to support itself through these turbulent times, but it wont be enough to prevent a few ribs been broken :) Thanks mostly to Polish banks traditionaly being tight with money, is the reason they havent got into too much trouble. Although if this crisis hadnt happened Poland would have been a lot worse, unimaginably worse as they were going down the same road offering easy credit which would have had them borrowing from other banks and gambling more of peoples money on the markets. As you are looking at the long term you should be fine, but a lot arent in that situation and cant stick through it. If I could, I would buy up houses in ireland and elsewhere when they bottom out and leave them there for 15 yrs to reap the rewards . . . but I or few others can afford to do that so for most its about being able to afford a home, quality of lifestyle after debt and worrying about how much negative equity they are sitting in. Some guess prices will fall in Poland next year, and in 2110, then raise by 10% in the following two years . . but like everything else in housing, its all guesses by people who tell you what you want to hear :)

I'll put my money where my mouth is.

Prepared to bet one pair of tickets to a game in Warsaw's new stadium in 2012.

- average transaction price for a flat in Warsaw will be lower
- average transaction price for a flat in Krakow will be lower
- average prime rent per sqm for a mid range shopping centre (say Arkadia ?) will be lower.

Don't know about office space but think probably around the same level as it is currently.

Now there is a man that does put his money where his mouth is, but its a stupid man / woman that would take that bet :)
theblueenigma   
14 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Blue Enigma, the point is that Ireland managed to get the best of both worlds by both being inside the EU *and* later on adopting an incongruously low corporation tax rate. The combination of 1) Being in the Eurozone 2) Having far and away the lowest CT rate in the Eurozone was what proved a winner with global corporations

No that wasnt your point, and I never disputed that low corporation tax was a factor in our success. Everybody knows that Irelands success is down to low corporation tax, you are stating what everybody who reads a newspaper knows already. What Im curious about is that you also stated Irelands recent economic success wouldnt have been achieved to the same extent unless Ireland was in the EU, Im asking you why considering they have tried everything to raise our taxes and it was only when we stepped outside our EU box that we gained succes.

As regards the PLN, it has long term, strengthened enormously since Poland entered the EU. Indeed the original motivation behind the pro-Euro political drive was that an overly strong Zloty would hamper Polands' exports. The weakening PLN at the moment is caused ENTIRELY by a global capital flight to the USD due to problems in the whole emerging markets sector, not Poland specifically.

Im not sure where I or anyone stated that the weakening Polish zloty was a result of Poland specifically ? You seem to be answering my questions with answers for different questions.

Germany is a huge donor to the EU. What the EU will invest in Poland has been pre agreed. No, Germany doesn't have pre arranged outsourcing contracts with Poland. Germany isn't so big on outsourcing anyway compared with Britain or the US.

That doesnt make sense. You said in a previous post that business contracts between germany and Poland had already been agreed, so there wasnt anything to worry about. Im not sure why you are correlating EU funding to a EU member state such as Poland to anything to do with the economic situation prevailing throughout the world, or indeed the impact of the worldwide recession on poland and its housing sector. I said germany and 'countries' and earlier discussed the importance of Americas outsourcing activities in poland.

You still haven't put your money where your mouth is; so, I ask again: Will Polish property prices in 2012 be higher or lower than they are now?

Im eating a burger now, so Im not so silly as to wrap my money around it :) Its impossible to predict what property prices in poland or anywhere else will be like in 4 yrs, thats absurd considering the present turmoil and contributory factors. Historically we can assume the market will fall, possibly bottom out, climb slowly and level out and get to a stage where they are realistic and relative to GDP, inflation and salaries etc. You seem very defensive of Polands economy and the housing sector. Im assuming it is either because you are very patriotic or you are refusing to accept anything but a positive and optimistic outlook because you have invested your money already in polish property. Either way, its nice :)

I do not agree that Poland will go down the drain or that it will not be effected by the world crises, the truth is somewhere in between.
I personally think it is healthy for Poland to reassess lending and prices so that the same does not happen here as in other countries.

I dont believe it will go down the drain either, and I think it is able to cushion current economic storms better than most. "the truth is somewhere in between" very true.

I read a lot about how people are going to be coming back from abroad in their droves but I do think it is unrealistic.
Until Polish people can earn as much here as they can in other countries, there is nothing to go back to.

I disagree as I think many will return, as they are doing already. They arent earning anything like they once did in Ireland and elsewhere. Construction workers who were earning E1000 a week in Ireland are now out of work, where can they go if not home ? I was at a wedding in krakow recently and was talking to a polish guy who had flew over from Ireland to attend. He is a plasterer in Ireland but will be returning to Poland in February as he says the construction industry in Ireland is completely finished. His gf was working in a hotel down there as a cleaner and is now unemployed unable to get work or social welfare so returned already to Poland. What else can they do but go home, and there are hundreds of thousands in the same situation.

We can again look at Ireland's history, when things went bad in other countries in the past.
Irish people still worked abroad, it was only when it became possible in Ireland for people to earn good money and opportunities were abundant did the population go up, 99% of my friends went back.
People are going to loose there jobs, many have already.
I think a lot of Polish people will continue to seek work abroad because it beats the alternative of coming back, let me rephrase the question, what do they have to come back to?.

Good point Sean

If/When Ireland is forced by the E.U. to come in to line with the rest of Europe for taxation.
I hope the Americans will come here.
Cheaper wages, property and a very high level of third level education.

They are already going, dell left here to relocate in Poland already and understandably so. I am very impressed with the level of education in Poland, krakow is a wonderful example with its wonderful universities everywhere. Education in Poland is seen as more of a privilage than a necessary burden which is refreshing. If the Poles on this website continue exagerating about salaries and cost of living, I suspect any prospective multi national scout will run to India instead lol guys keep it real ;)

And sleeping in the tunnels in hyde park wrapped up in old cardboard.
I have seen it, I saw Irish people doing the same and I saw Polish people taking their place.
It is a terrible thing, it'd break your heart.

Awful
theblueenigma   
14 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Tell me, would Ireland have achieved all of this had it been OUTSIDE the EU? Probably not. The point is, once inside, Ireland's super low corporation tax rate made it an obvious location for foreign companies' European HQs. Poland is following a similar (though not identical) route with big personal tax cuts from Jan 2009.

Thats impossible to say, but why wouldnt it have achieved this growth OUTSIDE the EU ? Being in the EU had little or no consequence to our economic growth, we were one of the poorest countries in Europe for most of our membership and our new economic success has nothing to do with being in the EU. What do you mean 'once inside' ? We were the ones who broke away from the european taxation norm against their wishes. One of the reasons we rejected the lisbon treaty recently was also because we dont want EU interference in our taxation laws. The point is that Irelands low taxation rate has been challenged consistently by the EU who see it as very unfair to the other member states and want a unilateral taxation system throughout the EU. If it wasnt for one of our own at the helm there, it would have been gone years ago and its a constant fight to keep it in place. Its no secret either that Poland is copying Irelands role model but it can never be as successful as that train has passed to much of an extent.

Considering Germany is now head over heels in a recession, the plunging stock market and the weakening of the Polish currency I suspect its very naive to think Poland will be sheltered from the recession. The ironic thing is that if Poland were already in the euro, that would have sheltered them a little . The average mortgage has gone up about 1 fifth which is relatively a lot, and it isnt any secret that many poles have mortgages out in other currencies which leads them scaringly exposed to the markets swings and roundabouts.

Outsourcing is massively important to Poland, and the Polish goverments template is to prioritise its outsourcing potential (thus why they want to copy Ireland) Emerging market countries such as Poland are hardly a homogenous group, but they face similar challenges to us all and will shake, even if it isnt as apparent yet. The inevitable outflows of investor capital driving down your stock markets and pressuring your currencies even more is occurring just as the demand abroad for your outsourcing and exports, has begun to weaken in countries such as germany etc. Coincidently you also mentioned earlier that germanys downturn wont adversely affect Germanys economy as they have already agreed contracts with germany that will shield you from any problems there, Im intrigued ???? Tell me more about this please.

Migrants returning home are going to be a huge burden on Polands economy, most economists anticipate a huge increase in unemployment over the coming years and its not the "waitressing/cleaning/nannying" ones I speak of, but the millions of polish employed in the construction industries that have collapsed. In Ireland the charity soup kitchens and homeless shelters are bursting with Polish construction workers and trades men who have lost their jobs. Most will return home soon as possible, the Irish goverment has agreed to help them with flights home etc (well its not Irish tax payers choice, nanny EU makes them). Not to mention the waitresses who are out of jobs because people arent eating out as much anymore and their employers inevitably have to shut up shop, restaurants are closing, the cleaners in the hotels are getting let off because bookings are down 30% / 50%....these people are going home, they have no other option, home to Poland . . . I doubt they will be worried about gaining employment first, or even if they will be successful in doing so. Of all the Polish in Ireland, it is estimated that about 60 % of what is left here will be in Poland next year.

Is Polish unemployment increasing? No, it's still decreasing, and growth is both positive and strong

Polish unemployment was 20% in 2003 before they joined the EU and were able to seek work abroad. I suspect it will rise to in or around 10% within the next 2/3 yrs, its virtually impossible to predict after that but I would guess it will follow expected trends, upwards.

Sorry to contredict this optimism but according to this article from the Warsaw Business Journal , Unemployment IS increasing in Poland like everywhere nowadays.

True, and I think this optimisim shared by many poles isnt a true reflection of the reality of what is occuring

I totally agree.
The Poles and Baltic workers have earned a reputation for honesty and hard work that puts there UK workmates to shame.
Especially the under 25's.

Couldnt agree more, the poles in ireland have trmendous respect for their work ethic and honesty in general
theblueenigma   
14 Nov 2008
Work / Living on the certain income in Poland [30]

A night out for 2 could cost well over 300zl.

Hm I went out for a lovely meal recently with my gf, in a very nice Georgian place, we also had about 6 pints of beer between us, came to in or around 100zl....thats in Krakow ! There is a lot of nonsense and exageration on this forum when it comes to salaries, rents, expense of living in Poland. I remember one guy here swearing his friend was getting 10,000 zl a month in a very normal occupation. Why do people exagerate anyway I wonder ? Is it insecurity, bitterness about other countries etc ? Its a shame because untill I actually lived in Poland, I realised most of what is wrote here my Polish natives about salary expectations etc is complete nonsense.

Further proof that some people here are just full of crap. The only report I'd trust on anything connected with salaries here would be an independent, external one.

Very, very true Seanus
theblueenigma   
12 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Ireland's property market is a joke, you know yourself.

A joke indeed, and everyone else knew the punchline a long time before most of the Irish did. The days of every Joe Normal owning investment properties are long gone, and good riddance to them . . sanity will slowly return to the housing sectors everywhere, house prices will reflect their true value and I wont have to listen to every muppet at a party discussing how their house in Marbella is worth :D

Let's not forget that Ireland now has a problem with recession and unemployment. Its EU funded growth spurt is ancient history.

So does the rest of the world, some more than others, Poland is far from immune from it either and will experience more than most expect pretty soon. When all the Poles here and elsewhere return home due to the recession, expect Poland to have a massive unemployment problem. Once Obama penalises American multinationals for redirecting tax and labor abroad, expect mass scaling down of out sourcing in countries like Poland. As for Irelands EU funded growth, the EU if anything hampered our economic growth and had little or nothing to do with it. Low taxation, education, location, american investment, language, credit, and the construction sector were the driving forces behind our 10 /15 yr growth spurt.
theblueenigma   
12 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Anyone who knows how to find accommodation in Cracow? [7]

Is that a 1 bedroom in the centre of Krakow for 1300zl? Could be a bargain. Let me know how you get on. I may have a studio apartment in centre of Krakow available for rent in January

How much would are you considering letting it out for ?
theblueenigma   
12 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Poland is a strong market as real estate purchases are 90% domestically driven

As they were in Ireland and in most countries pre bubble burst . . . although admitedly I think Polands fall will be softer
theblueenigma   
9 Nov 2008
News / POLAND'S CREDIT CRAZE [34]

Banking is one of the most regulated businesses out there.

Funny you should mention Reagan, it was he who first started to deregulate banking. Banking today has one of the least regulatory systems in place found across any spectrum. The very idea you propose that regulation itself is the problem is absurd ! Regulation is sorely needed on hedge funds and derivatives. This shadow market is a ticking time bomb that may be in the process of exploding very soon. Easy money was necessary but not sufficient. If we had just had easy money interest rates would have gone down but financial institutions would not have found enough credit worthy borrowers to take out the loans and expand the economy. With deregulation or failure to regulate we created the illusion that the loans being made were going to be paid back and therefore move the easy money through the economy to fuel the expansion. The very fact little or no regulation existed, and banks were allowed to themselves borrow so much was a time bomb waiting to happen.

I am also aware that deregulation alone isnt the full cause of the current situation. Reagan's trickle down theory simply did not, and does not work. The rich became addicted to their largess (evidenced in the outrageous salaries of CEO's) and sought mechanisms to increase their riches. The bonuses bankers were on was and is outragious. At the same time the consumer was largely ignored. Jobs are outsourced to other countries and replaced with lower paying jobs driving consumers to rely on credit to finance the goods and services that were being pushed in ads on TV, radio, in print and on the internet.

Being in Poland a lot myself I do notice a growing acceptance of credit here. all mirrowing exactly what I have seen in Ireland . . . and all I suspect with the same end
theblueenigma   
9 Nov 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Ive drove past 'Macro' in Krakow almost everyday for the past five weeks. Everyday I have guys at the junction knocking on the window offering me flyers about a development of 8 resonably priced houses just outside Krakow. That seems desperate to me, and certainly not a sign of a healthy housing sector.
theblueenigma   
27 Oct 2008
Real Estate / Current state of the property market in Krakow [135]

Beeing nowhere near Recession does not change banks 'attitude nowadays so even if Poland is doing extremely well compared with Western Europe not everyone will have that much cash.

I wouldnt be so sure about that at all actually, you are a lot closer than you realise.

ash1972:
prices so far have not even doubled since EU accession.

Oh no, prices have certainly doubled since 2004. I remember looking at property in Poland pre EU accession and prices have certainly more than doubled since then. They raised by almost 70% in 2006 alone.

What about the first year (2004) of falling prices? Plus the earlier falls in 2001-2 (before joining the EU admittedly)

Earlier falls in 2001/2002 arent relevant and in 2004 there was just a slight decline in the second part of the year due to supply outstripping demand.