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From: Olsztyn
Speaks Polish?: not a lot
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Trevek   
21 May 2009
History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

I was at a seminar in Oswiecim recently and a Polish guy wanted (wants) to do a whole series of conferences exploring the positive areas of Polish/German relationships through history. As one guy said, for many years/centuries the border was one of the most stable in Europe and there was a lot of cross-cultural pollenation.

Could be fun.
Trevek   
21 May 2009
History / any thoughts about Norman Davies ability to present accurate history of Poland?? [12]

I think one of things about Davies is that he cuts through a lot of fixed ideas, so, for example, at one point in God's Playground, he points out that the distance between peasants and szlachta was so wide that we could speak of them as being totally different cultures. It's an important thing to consider when talking of Poland as a culture and country of tolerance and freedom. It was if you were of a certain class. likewise, he talks about intercultural/ethnic relationships in a way which is not loaded down by political rhetoric. Important if you are also examining local sources.

A bit more contraversial; he also gets away from a Jew-heavy history of Poland.

Now, don't get me wrong here, I'm not anti-Jewish or suggesting that Jewish history is not a vital or important piece of Polish history. It's just that for many historians it seems to be the only thing they focus on and so miss other bits which don't fit/ aren't necessary to their project.

He's been criticised for not paying enough attention to jewish history in Poland but, as he says, other authors have done a lot about it and so he does not need to do so much. However, he does bring up things which are often obscured because many historians focus almost exclusively on it.

One example was about riots in cities like £odż in the first half of the 20th Century. These are often cited as pogroms and anti-Jewish riots, however Davies points out, other nationalities/ethnicities were also targetted, especially Ukrainians. This would suggest the riots were not specifically anti-Jewish as opposed to 'anti-foreigner' or 'anti-cheap-labourer'. This can bring whole new interpretations to the events arther than just being labelled 'anti-Jewish pogroms'.
Trevek   
21 May 2009
Language / Inability to roll r's considered a 'lisp' in Polish? [4]

Tell her to wear high heels. It helps most girls roll their R's.

Seriously, I had a funny experience in a primary school where I was directing a play in English. I chose on girl to say a rhyme because she was wonderful at saying 'th'.

Over hill and over dale, Through the forest and the fire, beneath the moon so white and pale, through the mud and through the mire.

A couple of weeks later I asked her to recite it again, (English letters for pronunciation)

"Owa hiw an dower dayw, thwu the fowestan da faja, beneefda moon so wayt an payl, thwu the mud an thwu the miyr"

I couldn't believe it. I turned to my Polish assistant and asked, "What's her Polish like?"

"The same" came the reply.

I hadn't known 'th' is considered a lisp.

I have one Polish student who claims not to be able to say 'cz' and 'sz' properly. I asked her how on earth she could speak Polish without being able to do it... "Like Kasia Cichopek!"
Trevek   
22 May 2009
Life / So it's hit me too, isolation in Poland [46]

I think it was "Auf Wiedersehn, Pet" where they end up working amongst ex-pats in Spain. One character, Oz, I think, says ,"Typical ex-pats... spend all their time trying to escape the misery of home and when they do they spend all their time trying to recreate it!"
Trevek   
24 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

There's a noted Scottish piper in Krakow, Lindsay Davidson, perhaps he has a hand in ceilidhs.
Trevek   
24 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Beer in Ireland! [13]

Heineken bought my Fav local beer recently.

I thought they bought it years ago, about the same time Fosters, or someone, bought Murphy's.

That's the whole reason it started getting pushed in UK pubs. I was in Cork about 18 years ago when they first started plugging draught Beamish in London (when you couldn't get it draught outside of Cork). "Beamish: sold in 100 pubs in London, so buy it at London prices!" Quite good at 1 pound a pint, made it 50-60p cheaper than a Guinness at the time.
Trevek   
24 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

Is that the guy that sometimes plays in the Main Square?

Not sure, he's pretty big league. Plays concerts with philharmonics and the like.

lindsaydavidson.co.uk
Trevek   
24 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

There's a friend of mine does the odd ceilidh in the Olsztyn area. I teach the odd bit of ceilidh dancing. I'd love to know if you ever have a biggy down there (as the actress said to the bishop).
Trevek   
26 May 2009
Life / Ceilidhs in Krakow [19]

A long way! Took us about 10 hours by coach last time.
Trevek   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

The trouble is that the mainstream parties are generally gutless about addressing things like immigration because they're terrified they'll be seen as racist or that the industry bosses will pack up and go to China for cheap labour.

It is this reluctance which means the issues are never properly addressed and so people who'd never usually go near BNP find themselves going there because the party appear to offer either a solution OR, at least, a voice. A dangerous situation.

I wonder why the BNP didn't use a Gurkha...
Trevek   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Beer in Ireland! [13]

Beamish had the rights to make Fosters and Miller here in Ireland.

Seems they were owned by Elders, Australian company who own Fosters, for a while.

I didn't realise how big Beamish had been in the past

wikipedia (so it must be true): Beamish and Crawford's "Cork Porter Brewery" prospered, and by 1805 it had become the largest brewery in Ireland and the third largest in the United Kingdom as a whole. In 1805 its output was 100,000 barrels per annum - up from 12,000 barrels in 1792.[
Trevek   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

if the Versailles Treaty hadn't been so brutal and unforgiving, there might not have been a Hilter either

The economist JM Keynes referred to it as 'the ruination of Europe'.
Trevek   
26 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

damn, that was a long sentence!

That is a Polish sentence if I ever saw one! If people started writing using Polish style sentences it could revitalise the British printing trade!
Trevek   
28 May 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish Spitfire shoots down BNP [63]

back then the gap between working and sitting on arse all day collecting benefits was the same as it is now.

True. I used to work in a factory in Telford and I was on a pretty decent hourly rate for my position. This was because the rest of the guys all came from Tamworth and had refused to work in Telford for Telford rates.

Also, the reason so many foreign firms set up in Telford in the 1980's was because it was such a low wage area.
Trevek   
7 Jun 2009
News / FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT [50]

Maybe it's just as well... he'd have had to have flown Air France.

For me, the big irony about not inviting the Queen is that she is probably the only current European head of state who was involved in WW2.
Trevek   
7 Jun 2009
News / Searching for keys in Polish-Russian relations [75]

According to this article, the Russians seem to be enforcing their own idea of history. Although the article mentions eastern europe, it could easily apply to Poland. The mention of

The new law could also be used to bar Western historians who accuse the Red Army of carrying out atrocities during its advance on Berlin or point out that Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were once allies under the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

could prove problematic for Katyn research.

It is laughable to compare this law with the German holocaust denial law. The German law is an acceptance of responsibility. This law sounds like a denial of responsibility.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5350777/Russia-threatens-to-bar-Europeans-who-deny-Red-Army-liberated-them.html
Trevek   
7 Jun 2009
History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

Because Russia believes 90% of Poland belongs to her.

Russia has its own ideas about post-war Europe too...
Trevek   
7 Jun 2009
News / FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT [50]

I thought so, but was too chicken to state it. I suppose the Pope could also count.
Trevek   
7 Jun 2009
Life / Polish man finds wife working at brothel [43]

Shouldn't. But i'm sure many married guys who don't frequent brothels will start popping in once in a while to see if their wives are working there:)

Well... that'll be their excuse now!

that's a heavy blow

Do those type cost more than ordinary ones?
Trevek   
7 Jun 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [428]

Not sure about now, but I read that under the Kaczynski government Poland was just being ignored because they were expected to veto anything, so agreements were being made amongst other countries to vote around Poland.

I think it annoyed people so much that when Poland did have a legitimate grievance it was just ignored because of all the previous whinging.
Trevek   
8 Jun 2009
Life / What should be done to make life in Poland better and more enjoyable? [94]

Don't even think about it. I'm not going to live in heritage park for the next 50 years ;)

The way they're chopping down trees along the roads around Olsztyn, I don't think there's a worry. By the way... I know a complete, newly covered (old) village road with NO potholes. It is so smooth and like a real road.

I drove along it with my wife (a car might have been better) just for the novelty.
Trevek   
8 Jun 2009
Life / "Why bother!" - Experiences of life in Poland... [47]

I once tried to get credit with GE Moneybank. They wanted all my documents for ZUS and my firm, tax etc. Everything was fine until they asked for my PESEL. I handed the guy my ID. He said there was no PESEL on it (I have it on an official letter from the Ratusz). I was then told I couldn't have any credit because i didn't have a PESEL on my ID.

I went to the immigration office, who looked at me like I was from Mars... "The card you want doesn't exist! Anyway, you're from EU, you don't need a card to live here!" Well, they said it in Polish (cos nobody in the immigration office in Olsztyn speaks English).

GE replied to my letter by saying, "We don't have to tell you why you were refused". No, you don't... but you did and it was ludicrous.

Likewise, trying to buy my car 'on the firm' I was told I couldn't do that with 5 year credit because my ID had less than 5 years and i might run away to UK. My Polish wife said, "Give me 5 years credit then and I'll run away tomorrow."

Don't start me on when I first tried to register as a one-man firm...
Trevek   
9 Jun 2009
Life / Top 3 Most Important Things about which polish dentists will LIE to you bigtime [46]

I always wondered why the Limeys had crooked, yellow, missing bad teeth?

It's because our dentists weren't earning the same as US dentists for doing fancy cosmetic work.

3000 zł for channel treatment?! You're kidding?

I had some serious work done last year. Upside down in a chair for about 2 hours, twice in a week. Cost nigh on 2000.
Trevek   
20 Aug 2009
News / RUSSIA IS TO POLAND WHAT TURKEY IS TO SOUTH SLAVS [66]

In any case, position and oppinion of majority in Macedonian nation is respected by Serbians.

I'm curious how Serbs felt when Macedonia allowed NATO forces to reside there during the Kosovo crisis.

Serbia liberated Macedonia from Ottoman Turkish rule.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a joint effort between Greeks, Serbs and Bulgarians? Didn't Serbia and Greece then free a large portion of Macedonia from Bulgarian "occupation"?

The name is a hot potato.Ancient Macedonia was part of greek civilization,they were not Slavs.

You could use the same argument with Prussia, which was neither Slavic, Polish or German

Linguistically, I believe Macedonian is nearer to Bulgarian (Bulgarian sources say it is about 80% Bulgarian), especially as it has no cases (unlike Serbian).
Trevek   
20 Aug 2009
Life / Why Poles don't use Facebook? [43]

Strange, I have a number of Polish friends on Facebook and they also have large amounts of Polish facebook friends.

A lot of the people I know have travelled abroad and so use it to stay in touch with international friends.
Trevek   
20 Aug 2009
Life / Redheads in Poland - How many? [95]

The important questions here are:
Are you Polish and ginger?
Do you know anyone who is?

My wife is. Also, there are sveral cats in our neighbourhood which are.
Trevek   
20 Aug 2009
News / RUSSIA IS TO POLAND WHAT TURKEY IS TO SOUTH SLAVS [66]

No, indeed! I actually agree with you about Macedonian self-definition and determination. I was just commenting from a linguistic viewpoint, as someone previously had brought it up.
Trevek   
20 Aug 2009
News / RUSSIA IS TO POLAND WHAT TURKEY IS TO SOUTH SLAVS [66]

Sorry, the whole quoting and editting thing went weird on me and the last post is a mess.

Have you ever come across the old book called something like "Stara Serbija i Makedonia"?

It's in Serbian, from about 1902. It's a fascinating book with lots of old pictures of people and places. I showed it to a Macedonian friend of ine, who reads Serbian (I don't). She says it is quite funny, because the author was apparently paid by the Bulgarians to do an ethnographic account and show how the region of Macedonia was Bulgarian. He went around, talked to people and thenwrote about how it was actually Serbian!