Amathyst
26 Dec 2009
News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [427]
Im going to get jumped on for this remark, but I can no longer leave this thread alone
Of course Poland is recognised as being part of Europe, at present they are more like the poor relative, but of course that will change.
We only have to look at history to know that this is true, the wealthy countries who strived, progressed, whilst those who did not fell by the wayside.
But progression also brings with a whole host of problems, usually social problems and erosion of core values because "all things shiney" become more important - always a price to pay.
Ive only ever visited Poland as tourist but didnt see any difference in its cities to any in France or Spain or any other european city I have visited (apart from miserable terrible service)...I also hear about how people who live in Poland complain about the public sector..well..after taking 2 hours to get through to the council tax department, I cant really see a difference in our countries...ALL public sector departments are CRAP!
Oh no its not, look at who committed the London bombings, its wasnt 1st generation pakistanis, it was 2nd or 3rd, its hard to tell because they "import" one of the parents from the homeland (yes they do call it that, Ive heard it said)...There is always an influence from "back home" because they dont like to marry someone too westernised...its the same with the Turks in Germany.
Im going to get jumped on for this remark, but I can no longer leave this thread alone
Of course Poland is recognised as being part of Europe, at present they are more like the poor relative, but of course that will change.
Progress, insolent teenager, is the engine of humanity. If you don't develop, don't become
richer and more powerful, then and only then you fall into decadence and your fall is only
a matter of time. As long as your power and wealth grow, you're safe.
richer and more powerful, then and only then you fall into decadence and your fall is only
a matter of time. As long as your power and wealth grow, you're safe.
We only have to look at history to know that this is true, the wealthy countries who strived, progressed, whilst those who did not fell by the wayside.
But progression also brings with a whole host of problems, usually social problems and erosion of core values because "all things shiney" become more important - always a price to pay.
Ive only ever visited Poland as tourist but didnt see any difference in its cities to any in France or Spain or any other european city I have visited (apart from miserable terrible service)...I also hear about how people who live in Poland complain about the public sector..well..after taking 2 hours to get through to the council tax department, I cant really see a difference in our countries...ALL public sector departments are CRAP!
It is, I agree. I am surprised you would love country you were born in less than country of your parents. But is it true to all or you just generalize?
Oh no its not, look at who committed the London bombings, its wasnt 1st generation pakistanis, it was 2nd or 3rd, its hard to tell because they "import" one of the parents from the homeland (yes they do call it that, Ive heard it said)...There is always an influence from "back home" because they dont like to marry someone too westernised...its the same with the Turks in Germany.