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It is not true - read the following
60 000 is the number of victims in Volhynia, I wrote about all Polish victims of UPA (120 000 - 150 000). It's from IPN site too.
IPN has big problem with credibility nowadays. If you live in Poland, you should know sth about it. It has released or sponsored too many controversial publications recently.
I've heard only about one. IPN released one controversial publication about Wałęsa (by Gontarczyk). Does that mean the number of UPA victims is not correct? As for Zyzak's book - it was not published or sponsored by IPN.
If you consider to condemn and ban the organizations just on the basis of some retarded animals wrongdoings, then we have to ban them both so you can't see even those who never killed any innocent and put their head for their country.
Look, there should be no doubt that genocidal policy was pursued and implemented by the OUN/UPA. It's not about some random killings or few instances but about consistent, well organized actions of exterminating Polish civilians. The OUN equated Ukrainian independence with ethnic homogeneity. The way the killings were commited makes UPA hardly comparable to any other organization.
It's said that some A.K soldiers from Wohlynia were destroying Ukrainian villages in retaliation. The estimated number of killed vary from 2 000 to 20 000. I haven't heard about any investigation concerning it. But these killings don't define A.K. Armia Krajowa never pursued genocidal policy.
Do you know that people living in Jedwabne where the biggest massacre took place refuse to admit it or express regret? So, if Poles can`t accept their dark past, why do you expect it from Ukrainians???
You're talking about ordinary people and their reactions. I'm talking about responsibility of authorities to ensure that genociders and their deeds are officially condemned. Kuchma made mistake, Juschenko's attitude makes situation only worse. New monuments of UPA leaders, war criminals responsible for mass-murders of Poles: Stefan Bandera's, Roman Szuchewicz's, „Wohlyn butcher's” - Dmytro Klaczkiwśkij's are popping up in western Ukraine. Roman Szuchewicz was awarded the highest honour - the title „hero of Ukraine”. This is what Szuchewicz wrote in one of his orders:
„Śmierć jednego Lacha to metr wolnej Ukrainy, albo będzie Ukraina albo lechicka krew po kolana, Polaków w pień wyciąć.
W związku z sukcesami wojsk sowieckich konieczne jest przyspieszenie likwidacji Polaków, muszą zostać całkowicie zgładzeni, ich wioski spalone (...) ludność polską należy zniszczyć.”
Why do you see Ukrainian monuments and forget about Polish? Polish controversial figures, including murderers of innocent people, also have their monuments in Poland and Poles don`t care when foreigners criticize. So, there is a draw.
A monument of a person responsible for genocide of thousands of innocent civilians. Where is such monument in Poland?
Anti-Polish sentiments might again rise in Ukraine.
Judging by their national 'heroes'... I would not be surprised if anti-polish sentiment was prevalent there.
I believe Polish politics in Ukraine was incredibly stupid and blind. And it finally brought about the massacre.
If you can justify ethic cleansing/genocide conducted by OUN/UPA, then you can do the same with Polish politics in Ukraine. Just put it in the right context.
It just couldn`t end another way. I am so sorry...
It could - you had Andrii Melnyk, OUN-M or even Taras Bulba Boroviec...
Nope! We shall never leave Ukraine! In good and bad times, Poland and Ukraine must keep together!!!
We are already partners and friends.
That's crazy. With such friends, who needs enemies?
