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14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]
Lesser, not everyone uses the RCC as the benchmark of honourable morality. Reason and rationality rule the day, laddie. Not self-righteous impositional morality that you espouse (of the RCC). After all, insanity is, according to the Scottish courts, 'the total alienation of reason'. You are decidedly moving in that direction. We have laws in place, let the legal system serve its function and stop deciding for everyone.
By knocking western legal systems, you are again being disrespectul with your holier-than-thou attitude. I studied the Dutch abortion provisions in detail and they really address the issues with an open mind and through a balanced/objective lens. The difference is, Polish right-wingers take the high ground without fully understanding the complexities inherent to the matter. Your arguments are far from cogent.
Not taking innocent life is a stated want but it's a qualified one. It's a general desire which cannot always be realised. Like M-G said, we don't condone random abortions based on people's carelessness. However, rape often involves no fault of the woman. You keep ducking the practicalities put by M-G and Mafketis.
They can have the same DNA code, yes. That changes very little as you'd be bringing the child into a world based on criminal wrongdoing. How could a woman have any pride from a baby spawned from rape??
You won't get many better fathers than I, Lesser. My compassion and dedication ensures that. I'd love a kid that was my own, not some rapist's. What animal instinct? More sense than me? Maybe there are some but that rings true for most.
Again, you show your black and white vision. Can't you see that one material factor could tip the balance in favour of another decision? Life is complicated and your dictatorial narrow-mindedness places you well down the pecking order in terms of your ability to evaluate and reach a reasoned position.
The process is made much easier if the child is still inside the woman. The child hasn't yet taken its first breath and hasn't yet started to give the feelings of joy that a newborn in your arms gives. It seems like you advocate the bearing of a criminal's child. How about his DNA, Lesser? How about his conduct? Do you approve of creating more criminal life?
Biological in that I want a kid of my own? From where I'm sitting, that's what most men want. Practical was the word that you were looking for. And in this, you come up very short as you have no conception of the living reality of having an alien child. I failed to comment on what??? I have answered your questions.
Laziness?? It's women who bear children, not men :) :) Egoism??? How on earth can that play a part here?
If she accepts the child then that is her choice. I never denied her that choice. Let her have a child by a man that she loves. Then she'll see the value of life and nurturing.
Accepted as the father? According to formalities, yes, but again and again you are missing the emotional bond that is so important. A kid should have a father that he loves and is the fruit of his labour. Why should a woman be a conduit for wrongdoing? The social stigma of rape doesn't need to be stated but she must live with this knowledge.
M-G, Lesser is in my pocket. He can generally argue well but he's losing by force here.