UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


of course it was you muppet,but,sorry to say your just reinforcing the stereotype of humourless Poles,again.
Simply put,you guys seem to think everything was roses and light for anyone not "lucky" enough to live under the fraternal umbrella of Moscow. Thats as silly as a westerner with the idea that day to day life in the east was a constant round of working on a kholkhoz,attending may day rallies and being woken up by knocks on the door from KGB/KBW/RSPCA while whistling the song of the volga boatman....

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Oh,I love this.....are we talking in the 2 to 3 week period ,OK,17 days,that Poland stood any chance of not being carved up by jerry and ivan? If we are,lets see;

1, Overwhelming french PAPER army, only half mobilized,under trained and in the usual french tradition of being pulled a dozen ways by a weak government. point 1A being there were NO british forces on continental Europe at the outbreak of war. Im soo sorry we hadnt thought to build the channel tunnel yet,must have been polonophobia on our part,ya know,dont make it easy to get an army accross the sea,it might help those whinning poles .........

2, er,maybe at first,but once the brest litovsk carve up was agread,no,mostly police and reserve units.By the time Britain had anything aproaching an Army across the channel Poland was well and truelly fcuk'd,the nazis were facing west,and,as Im sure your country would do,you thought of the defence of your own first,treaty obligations second,or,was the pre war polish dictatorship,the one who helped carve up czechoslovakia and for many years in the 30s wanted an alliance with germany,was your goverment one who would sacrifice your own country and people for some one else?

3, What 2 fronts muppet,again,by the time western allies were mobilised in France and belgium germany only had one real front,facing west.


I said COUNTY mate,not country,some counties in the UK faced problems and unemployment far larger than anything Poland experienced in the 90s so to blanket statment RICH WESTERN is plain bubble headed. Try telling the car workers in detroit they were having it easy a few years ago......rich country maybe,still "issues".


Yeah,right mate.......sure they did.These were people who had NO MONEY,so having the freedom to travel might have been dandy,tough titties if you could never aford it.

We have a saying around here amongst poles and brits,in the 80s in Poland you all had jobs and money but nothing in the shops, we had full shops but no jobs or money,same ole sh*t,different angle dont you agree?


yeah,ok,sorry fella, I knew too many Poles who did just that in the 80s,came here for a few years,went home to poland for a bit and then came straight back.......

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Tosser,you have zero idea of where or how I was living in those times.Did your neighbours get arrested by your countries security forces on numerous occasions simply for being active members of a trade union? Did your entire county get asset stripped and face 60-70 % unemployment during the 1980s? Did you see your personal freedoms eroded ? Did you see entire communities having to live for 12 months on the charity of friends,no wages ? So get a grip you whinger,poland isnt the only place with tough times and hard luck stories, you tell anyone who lived in the North of England during the 80s,in a mining community that you think you had it tough,sorry old fella,unless you actually did spend time in a Gulagyou'll get a sonnata on the worlds smallest violin.....!


Hi old buddy,long time no headbutting......laugh,I nearlly bought a pizza,explain please dear freind how exactly declaring war on germany because it wouldnt leave poland would have "saved our(untill we got involved in ww2 rock solid empire)empire"? I cant remember there being any British colonies anywhere near Danzig,can you?


Aye,but atleast we didnt F ing invade it alongside the nazis did we old fella?

but ,at the end of the day....YYYYAAAAWWWWWNNNNNN.

News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]


theres a joke in there,I aint making it though :)

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Only trouble being there is no basis in historical fact for his statement,sure Jews were kicked out in the middle ages,but a couple of decades after Poland had the oppertunity,but failed to take it of freeing the serfs Britain had a person of undoubted Jewish descent as Prime Minister in Benjamin Disraeli....you guys had to wait till the reds took over before a Jew or any non catholic pole took power....


No,it only enslaved huge swathes of its native population,d'oh! Atleast we didnt enslave our next door neighbours we sailed halfway around the world and let other people sell their next door neighbours to us :)


less than 150 years actually old chap,east india company was just that,a company,the 18th century equivelent of one of say haliburton. The indian rulers invited in traders,made alliances and generally kept full independance untill around 1858,even after then most of india was administered and defended by native indians.......shouldnt spout garbage when a descendent of old Bob Clive is on the forum :)


financialy so to was Britain,when will you numpties get it that Britain didnt recieve a penny from the Yanks after the war,unlike the rest of Europe.


yeah,so,we had over 10 years of maggie thatcher,i'll take your gulags over that b*tch anyday ....


you also flew the last "enemy" flag over a British town Hall :)


Yes,but tanks dont generally float too well over flooded polder do they?(as Guards armoured and princes irene brigade found out in '44:( )

UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]


Weve actually got some of the safest roads in Europe and pretty much the lowest rates of fatal accidents,plenty of idiots though but they are mostly lads under 25,fat blokes in white vans or dicks with braces driving audi's.


Lol,Ive been driving here for 10 years and baring a brief run round the dutch countryside in a wartime jeep before I even had a UK licence I still leave the car at home before going to Europe and stick to public transport or Taxis,I mean,it takes me 3 days before I caan cross roads safely,Im not rushing to get behind the wheel on the wrong side :)

News / Germany seeks extadition of Sobibor death camp guard. [65]


Thats what I think,on one level,then on another I remember that the nazis didnt spare victims down to their age or infirmity,quite the opposite.However,as "we" are not meant to be nazis why not hold a trail somewhere in the states,or just try him in absentia?

UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]


After seeing a French registered car parked up in the central filter lane of a busy A road and 2 old dears studying a map,yes,atleast a pop quiz at Dover.....


What info did he need,its the M1 for goodness sake,I drove down it 2 days after passing my test! The only place it gets a bit dodgy is about 15odd miles from the M25 when it suddenly opens up into godknows how many lanes.

History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]


Dont get your point,if a film was made about the American civil war and the southerners called their slaves African Americans the audiance would pee themselves laughing,if the term was in use at the time,no matter how uncomfortable it may be to hear now it is the correct term for a "historical" film,end of.

Example,in the UK we have a famous old film from the 1950s called the Dambusters,surprise surprise about the Dambuster raids in 1943,anyone over 30 knows that the RAF squadren leaders blackdog was called "ni**er",anyone under 30 doesnt even know he has a dog,censored out,history rewritten.

News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]


Ok,I'll try and address that one.My youth,well,i was still in high school in 89 so caught the tail end of the Cold war.Yep,there was always the feeling of "us and them" when it came to East/West relations but as far as most of us here in the UK weer concerned if anyone was going to press the big red button it would have been that loony robot like ham actor in the WhiteHouse and we'd just be stuck in the middle. Communists had never been our natural enemy here in the UK,weve never had a strong gound swell of support for any forms of extreme politics,so where say France had communist parties we had wishy washy socialism and the dangours of any form of extreme right or left wing government were never percieved as real here. Remember also,prior to the cold war "communists" had been our allies in the war against the Nazis,the nazis being the only group who have seriously threatened Britains saftey since Napoleon so naturaly there was some support/respect/curiosity about communism,but it was always,except in rare ,treacherous circumstances like the cambridge spies, more of an intelectual exercise or a way to show dissatisfaction with present politics,in my day that B*tch wh*re Mrageret-hope she dies in agony-Thatcher. I never,even during my student days considered myself a communist or even fellow traveler but Id seen my county decimated by conservative policies and so was naturaly left leaning,yes I had a picture of Che on my wall,but will say I was even though in the minority due to actually knowing he was Fidels right hand man in freeing Cuba I was innocent in to how much of a see you next tuesday he later became,I now balk at the sight of his image on T shirts,especially the other week when I saw some documentry about British kids being shown round cambodia and one of the numpties wore a che t shirt to visit a memorial to the killing fields,but I have to remember that for most people its a cool,slightly rebelious image,not a call to revoloution.

For older people,who may very well have been communists or fellow travllers in the past,unless they actually spied for the Warsaw Pact,so what? Its called political freeedom,sorry that we had it for so long when you guys didnt but thems the breaks.

News / Poland to ban Che Guevara image [55]


...would be arrested under the UKs prevention of terrorisim act(section 23b-7a, the public display of images likely to spread fear amongst children and horses act 1973.)


were they the ones who locked up children in insane asylums simply for being half german?


Brings in the western tourists though. Love the place in Prague,Museum of communism beside MacDs...Lets face it,you guys who had to live under communism were always obbsesed by the "other" way of life and politics we had in the west,well,likewise,if you were disafected by western norms or politics back then you took an interest in the other way,ie,human nature says the grass is always greener,even when it quite plainly wasnt or isnt.

History / Generał Nil [39]


Boll*x...


again,boll*x.Look at a long list of post war senior officers in all 3 services and you will see as well as dozens of Poles names from every corner of the globe....maybe its just a no whingers rule you fell victim to...


I live here but Im no krauts subject....us true brits tend to leave that sort of thing to you europeans,you seem more used to it....

History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]


no river crossing is ever "pathetically easy"witness soviet crossing of the oder and approach to the seelow heights......... Besides,stand on the west bank and look DOWN on the east bank,not only a river crossing but a scramble up hill that would have made Omaha look like a stroll down venice beach......


They might not have been shot as they came out the tunnels by the frontoviks but once in say Praga the NKVD did donate 21 grammes of nagant lead to any Officers or NCOs in the AK or other non communist groups.

History / Stalag luft III - Zagan [6]


Not quite true,the only reason the US troops were left out of the final escape was down to the gerries building a seperate camp for them.....but,agreed,was a bit cheeky of hollywood to play up US involvment(mind you,hands up who is surprised?).

News / Does the polish immigration cause the increase of the interest in Poland? [20]


The ones who will,will be the ones who always did,Canal was a huge cult movie amongst those in the know even back in the 50s,(OK,I know thats Wajda but you get me..). What tends to happen in Britain is that it takes a decade or 2 and then the culture seems to absorb what it likes and ignores the rest,witness huge interest in Ska and regea in the late 60s early 70s ,about 10 years after the first mass immigrations from the West Indies,and witness britains most poular meal,Curry,not exactly a native Anglo /Celtic meal...:)

History / Poland Betrayed in WW2 [243]


Check the forum name.....:)
By the way,with my above Im not saying its wrong that Polands story is being told,its just it is now being told at the expense of other stories,and frankly,for someone to say British people who know their history are ignorent regarding Poland just shows that persons blinkered ignorence or more probably its the one thing that really gets on my t*ts about the Polish national charector,the tendency to self pity to the point of nausea.....

History / Poland Betrayed in WW2 [243]


Wrong,the french mounted the first and only attack into German territory in late 39 early 40,British forces had to wait another four years to get boots on the ground in the lair of the fascist beast.


Blah blah what a load of old horse s**t blah....What do yopu know,do you live in Britain? Try watch a documentry on say the BBC regarding WW2 these days(and for years now for that matter) and you get hit over the head with "Poor Poland this and poor Poland that",from recent documentries you would think only 3 countries existed east of the rhine,Germany,Poland and the USSR....maybe has something to do with half of our documentries these days being filmed on the cheap in Poland....

UK, Ireland / My friends upset at Brits.... [51]


MYTH. Its only one breed of Swan that old frau lizzie has domain over,the rest are "fair game",cept they are not due to wildlife protection laws and the fact that anyone hunting a Swan must be a sick retard......

History / Operation Market Garden, what went wrong? [68]

...or even an offensive penetration....

USA, Canada / Why aren't Polish people immigrating to Canada instead of the UK? [148]


In LONDON you muppet,and thats only because its full of forgien FKwits like you....

Life / Teens in Poland, their typical life, schooling, influences, etc. [32]

Fascinating stuff here,thanks ,been a good read.

UK, Ireland / Polish parents hang themselves at their Lincoln, UK home [66]


Would you call medal wining honest to god war hero s as weak? Not trying to be provocative but, how many ,say Falklands veterens have killed themselves. Its not always about any inherant "weakness" .

UK, Ireland / Polish parents hang themselves at their Lincoln, UK home [66]

They do this to their 11 year old Daughter, how could they? I dont know who is worse,the mother for putting the whole family through that or the father who,no doubt wracked with loss after his wifes death,still should have put his kids first before his own suffering.

Lets hope those 2 kids,and a 20 year old in that situation imo is still a kid,have some support over here in this awfull time for them.

Most shamefull thing is I suspect the little girl will now be blaming herself for this in the way kids tend to.

Travel / How Can I Not be the "Ugly American" Tourist in Poland? [97]


Really? :) Fantastic,theyre really handy arnt they,make great camera bags as well,the little pockets are....should I say were perfect for film.
And the best thing is they dont look worth stealing :)

History / Operation Market Garden, what went wrong? [68]

You know what,its one of those things that have bubbled under for years now,it depends who you speak to,ask an old Desert Rat and he'd probably punch you on the noes :) But,lots of peopl who know a lot about these things seem to think its fact. I know my G Grandfather was apparently quite vocal in his dislike for Monty, G G was an old 1st war vet whod come up through the ranks and during the last war was a lt cnl in Commbined ops planning and training. Apparently whenever Montys name was mentioned he'd snear and tell everyone within earshot how great Eisenhower was :)

History / Operation Market Garden, what went wrong? [68]


Yep,but not enough to show you my spunk :)


Yeah,because patriotic songs are a great source of historical fact arnt they Franek.....

History / Operation Market Garden, what went wrong? [68]

Where as over here it means what Monty did to young lads :)

Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

History / Operation Market Garden, what went wrong? [68]


Yes, point of fact,IMO Monty was a bit of a fool.BTW, Pansy is being nice if you believe the rumours.......


Yep,no arguments.


It shouldnt do ,its a term of endearment :)

History / Operation Market Garden, what went wrong? [68]

Its requesting I show him my spunk that has me a little worried though wildrover :)