News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


"We"? You support people whom openly speak about building Europe-wide empire. They don't respect any different opinions or ideas. They don't debate, just pushing their vision even against the will of majority.

Neither you or Miranda are 'democrats' and same this fact is not any reason to be ashamed. What is really shameful is this dishonest meddling that you practicing.


You support the government (European Commission) that want to directly and in details control whole old continent. What is more via some worldwide international institutions like the UN, they want to spread their pseudo-cultural values (so called "way of life") in all possible directions. If this culture was really superior and respect-deserving then it would spread without any financial spendings, central institutions and massive propaganda. This is imperialism of the new age which is not popular among other self-respecting cultures. As we see even in Europe itself this style of running peoples life is losing. I dare to write that this is not any precise vision of policy lead people to vote against Brussels wishes, rather opposition to bureaucrats that claim to be always 'right'.

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


Just admit that you are not a democrat. This is my task in this thread, to expose pro-EU hypocrites one after another. I can write, mission accomplished! :)


Open your mind yourself, imperialism always turn against the people sooner or later.

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


Current lack of democracy fits you, thus you compare democracy to utopia. However Switzerland exist and is in much better shape than EU-kolkhoz.


Because socialist 'facade democracies' are present all over the world.


Have you anything to say about EUcrats refusing to recognize a third referendum in a row? Or empty slogans are everything you can afford?

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You are simply in denial or don't wont to clearly admit an obvious conclusion from your anti-democratic comments.


No, if anything then I'm free to complain, ' the rights' you can save for yourself! :)


I write about what is necessary very often, just you don't want to know.


I don't believe you, because you apologize for political elites which behave in such manner.

This is your private decision, stay or leave. However Polish problems will reach your everywhere you go, because it is in fact international cancer.


I read reviews posted on the website of this book. This woman is a fanatical opponent of the free market and have not a clue about politics in general. You left a post-communist country to enjoy far-left propaganda?

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


This is my fault, that I know better?



Your attitude (shared by current political elites) encourage all possible groups that oppose the status quo to use non-democratic means to realize their goals. If they would take over your country then you haven't any moral rights to complain. Why? Because you do not give them any other possibility to compete.


Please... The style in which you wrote this sentence betrays your lack of confidence on these matters caused by lack of knowledge about Polish politics. Anyway, you admitted it before in other thread. While of course I know better, much better. :)

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


I disagree with you about Poland but this is not the point. What about other countries don't destined to beg for cash? Those people don't need democracy in your opinion? Or perhaps they should sacrifice it for the Polish cause?


These distinction and conclusion would have a sense if local politicians wouldn't work for the EU.


Although you don't understand what you write , I fully agree with you :)
Come on, be honest with us! You don't believe in any 'democracy', you just wish to maintain this official fiction.


Sane person firstly learn about conditions and later take a side. People cannot be educated by state, only indoctrination is possible. People should start to educate themselves, at least those of them with some intellectual abilities.


This is first and foremost because of their ignorance. Some are even too stupid to be indoctrinated! :)

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You have some point here. Estonian transformation was very good in comparison with other post-communist states. Because of this exaggerated fear they blindly joined to the EU and already face recession.


What do you understand by 'so long'? Soviet and Chinese communists run two different communist camps, they were rivals.

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


I'm a rightist = conservative liberal (in European sense). However lets concentrate on the EU and Ireland.


Conclusion from your post would be that people don't really need democracy. Correct?

Life / Polish films golden collection, they are better than the new ones [13]

Russian despotic tsars and Soviet Union are two different topics. In my opinion you are simply biased against Russians. You have no problems to justify misbehavior of people with other nationality. You look at everything using socialistic criteria of collective guilt. Perhaps instead to search for the nation responsible for suffering of other nations, you should concentrate on this socialistic mentality that brought all of them down? Actually, it flourishing in Europe again!

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


Well, even a blind socialist like this author see that something really stinks in the EU.

Life / Polish films golden collection, they are better than the new ones [13]




Actually in my opinion word 'Soviet' is accurate. You stick only to such statistics and periods that fits to your wishes.

Leadership of Bolshevik revolution was 'very Jewish'. Lenin was not Jewish, neither a Russian. Himself did not identify with any nation. So how could they be representative to Russian imperial ambitions?

Life / Polish films golden collection, they are better than the new ones [13]


This is not the case here. After 1989 not many Poles gained mental independence, this is especially true for so called 'artists'. Many of them are not any talents, just know proper people...


However we are aware of your lack of objectivity on these matters. By the way, why not 'Jewish occupation'?

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


Vast majority.


I hope this is not an exuse for the EUcrats?


When political elites refuse to recognize the results of three referendums in a row, this is complete lack of democracy per se.


Sweden is one of these states which stripped their citizens an opportunity to speak out. This is how they adopted democracy.


In the EU you wont find any for sure. However I mentioned such state several times before, this is Switzerland. If they would want to join the EU then they would need to abandon democracy.

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


This is not just Ireland. Voters in France and Netherlands also rejected delusional project of Brussels bureaucracy. People in other states were stripped any possibility to decide.

However I also find their comments funny. Some time ago I realized that EUcrats are not any democrats. This is funny how they simultaneously praising democracy and raping democratic rules. How they smile lying in your face, in front of TV cameras. How many of you would manage to do that?

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]


Lets look at what prominent German EUcrats have to say:

Iren sollen über EU-Mitgliedschaft abstimmen
bild.de/BILD/news/politik/2008/06/17/irland-soll/ueber-eu-mitgliedschaft-abstimmen.html

"If the rest of the EU states would ratify, while the Irish wont present any solution then question arise about their full membership."Martin Schulz, the chief of socialistfraction in the EU-parliament.

"The Irish took advantage of their democratic right to say 'no'. Howeverit is clear that we cannot create for them any special regulations. In the EU there is no such thing that all accept new rules and just one country stay aside."Günter Verheugen, EU-commissioner.

By the matter of fact there is no such paragraph in the rules of the EC that would allow them to kick Ireland out. However there is such "rule" of Soviet jurist Andrey Vyshinskiy (He was awarded the prestigious Stalin Prize) which say "Give me a person and I will find proper paragraph." Perhaps in this place I should remind that the Soviet Union also considered itself to be democratic.

By the way, do you recall any other state or at least some quasi-state (except the EU and the SU) run by Commissars?

Life / Smokers in Poland..... price rise. [47]

The EUCCP wants to increase minimum rate of excise on cigarettes. According to some sources prices in Poland could be higher by 46,8% (2015-16). According to eurocrats, it would reduce demand by 20% and improve health of animals on our farm.

News / ARE LATVIANS AND OTHER 'BALTICS' HOSTILE TOWARDS POLES? [60]


It automatically exclude all people from having any valid concerns about Russia. The latter is known from running tasteless foreign policy towards its former satellites. Kremlin really gives them many reasons to be worried.

News / Thank you Ireland... EUCCP [81]

Update on EUCCP vs Europeans:

"The Irish will have to vote again," Mr Sarkozy told deputies from his UMP party in a meeting in his office, several of those present confirmed.

He is so great for the Irish, the French were not even allowed to vote again! Sacreble!

Ireland must decide by October what to do about its rejection of the EU's Lisbon Treaty, the bloc's commissioner for external relations declared Friday.

hurriyet.com.tr/english/world/9467473.asp?scr=1

One could think that they already decided...

I also would wish all Polish recent elections repeated and accepted only when my favorites would won. Apparently EU-socialists are more equal than the rest of human garbage!

I'm curious about opinions of those posters from the EU member states who spend so much time in this forum criticizing neocons.

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What is the point? You seems to dislike Ukrainians so much and on other hand express your love to Russians. Any common sense here?


Of course Poland did interfere, this is obvious. We could discuss whether this was good or bad move, however this is other issue.

History / massacres of poles in volhynia 1943 [67]


If anybody had any doubt about motivation of his behavior, this case should finally expose him. If this would be about the Germans or Russians, he would be present for sure and delivering long speeches. I generally oppose politicians whom love to talk about history but one could expect some consequent policy on these matter from him. Either raise all such historical issues or nothing.

Anyway this is ridiculous, I mean to appease to minority of Ukrainians whom worship Bandera.

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I would argue with this excuse. He joined to the PZPR in late Stalinist era. He did not resign after Hungarian revolution was brutally crushed (add Poznan events). This doesn't look very idealistic.

Basically, because of such people I spend whole my childhood in the communist state...


I would care less about their former party membership, if they would do successful transformation. However this is not the case, it was a disaster.


I completely agree with this part of your post. People from his circles, practically controlled mainstream media after 1989. They were showing themselves in good light and apologizing every single swindle. While all kind of political opponents were portrayed as some freaks.


Yes, exactly. He is co-responsible for incorporation of our state to the EU.

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People deciding about security of the state is a ridiculous idea in my opinion. However I never claimed to be great democrat. :) Of course these countries are not democratic, all this 'representative democracy' is such a farce. Exactly like communist invented "people's democracy". There is no democracy in the EU. Look at the Swiss, if they would want to join, then they must to abandon democracy! Thus they voted NO five times already. Wait for more...


Carol, you need to understand that American state care only about security of the US. Perhaps we should add Israel because there is a lot of Jews in every American administration and media outlets as well. It cannot be otherwise.


Ever visited Russia or Poland? Read a book about our history?

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I'm sure that Greg's dog could leave something free of charge and additional in your home. :)


Our army is a part of NATO troops, so automatically we have NATO bases on our territory. Beside of that, this is not NATO project.


Base or lack of army. Interesting alternative!


We could ask them how much they would be willing to pay to us ( of course before) if we reject American proposal.


This is cultural issue not military.

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Why this is good business?

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Vote? :)

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What is so specific in American politics to question such universal tendency present in all so called democratic states?


Smart people (unless they lost their faith in democratic solutions) nearly alway vote. To convince them politicians must really do their best, present good arguments and some detailed solutions how to resolve the most difficult problems.

If you need to talk about patriotism to convince a citizen to go vote it means that this is not very bright person. Such person doesn't have any specific views and don't really follow politics. To convince such person is an easy task. I should not even use this word, I mean "convince". Because such people are rather "attracted" than convinced. Politicians may concentrate on pure demagogy and populist slogans, because this is absolutely enough to attract such voters. This is not a secret that smart voters are always in minority. So politicians don't even feel necessary to try to convince them. Those whom attract ignorants will win anyway.

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Nope. In fact when more people vote, quality of the results is poorer. Thus politicians always claim that this is patriotic obligation to vote in election. Of course this is huge lie, because automatically encourage everybody to participate in election no matter what is the level of "political awareness" of individuals. This is what politicians want, more ignorant voters, because they are the easiest target to convince.

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I agree with you that these bases have absolutely nothing to do with Iranian case. It seems that this is all about Russia. However it also seems that this is all about US security not Polish. Why would Polish state accept such project if Americans offer to us very little instead?


Football, politics and military issues, every woman know much about these three topics. :))


It would be offensive to claim that American army is afraid of inferior Iranian rockets. Don't you think?

History / massacres of poles in volhynia 1943 [67]


Yes, however this have nothing to do with history of Commonwealth. Also absolutely nothing can justify crimes of nationalist UPA bands against non-Ukrainian or even Ukrainian civilians.


What is interesting many from the most fervent Ukrainian nationalists were Uniates.

History / massacres of poles in volhynia 1943 [67]



Nonsense. Practically Ukrainians magnates had the same rights like Polish magnates. While Ukrainian peasants the same rights like Polis peasants. We had even Ukrainian king, Michal Korybut Wiśniowiecki. In Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth people were not divided according to ethnic origin but social classes. You wrongly associate nationalist obsessions of future ages with this era.

Also perhaps we should wipe out German minority because "terrible mistreatment of the ordinary Poles by the German rulers"? Great excuse indeed!