George8600
16 Oct 2009
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]
Jewish schools in Poland are utterly conservative(I have friends that have attended them). I would think that the woman made a bigger mistake sending her child there than a Polish public school. I mean for example: public schools in Poland teach evolution, where in private institutions it's completely up to them to make the curriculum.
As for your future perception. According to the EU polls and UN WDR, Christianity has been increasing. I presume you mean the weakening of Church and State? I suppose so. From what I've seen a state can be religious and still claim tolerance. This is seen in many countries. The church shall remain a religious institution as always, but I would presume it will also always have ties to politics. Being that there are religious politicians, and the church getting involved in many ways both socially and economically. But the church in modern times isn't a stone in Polish politics as one might strongly see it, just an underlying influence thats migrated there overtime.
As for the thread starter: no, I doubt he/she was rejected into the EU for that. The majority of people that hold political seats in the EU are religious and christian.
To Orzel: I'm disgusted by your ignorance. Your claiming that religion is the reason why Poland is where it is today(which according to EU figures is pretty good)? If you really want to bring religion into this then fine. Fact: Poland wouldn't have the vast problems that it does today, if Stalin's atheistic communist regime had stayed out of Poland to begin with. So should I go around blaming atheists for Polands problems now? Such close-mindedness on your part. The church in Poland isn't what it might be in other areas of the world. It accounts for the vast majority of charity in the nation and has helped hospitals, educational systems, and the poor gravely. If your issue is with Polands modern problems of economy and infastructure, then that isn't the Poles and Poland's relgious problems. Ironically it was because of a regime that purged both of those as you insist on doing now.
To the Ancient Greek commentors: Religion in Ancient Greece was an odd thing. Let me start by saying that after the execution of Socrates for his atheism, atheim and agnostism became widespread in Ancient Greece. I believe some historians even say almost half of them were of such beliefs and it became a norm. As for the Greek Gods, yes it was like church today, but was used immensly for art, poetics, and mythology as Epiricus himself put it. It was believed by many, however religion in Ancient Greece wasn't as big as one might assume, and the ones that existed weren't enforced or enthralled. It was usually top philosophers and Ancient Greek notables that are known today that often had the stage for public opinion and thought, and they tended to be atheistic/agnostic. However mind you, Ancient Greece had become a country that was very dependent upon it sciences, arts, and most of all philosophies, and religion wasn't as focused to be structured like moderns religions are and priests weren't as widespread or popular. Hence, if God ever came into the picture at the intellectual scene of Ancient Greece it was either in the form of pantheism or agnostism (philisophical based arguments). Even people like Plato and Socrates claimed that using terms such as "By Zeus" were merely euphemisms such as one might say today: "My God! or Good Lord!". But nontheless religion did have a strong hold to be able to carry on into the Roman Empire and to merge to create their first religions.
Personally, I see it ironic how people at the time looked down upon the Ancient Greeks for having their liberal democratic system and having their widespread logistics and atheism/agnostism. Yet after years of fallen governments, kingdoms, empires, regimes, the modern world in majority has come back to the concept of democracy and the matter of logistics that the Ancient Greeks had.
Anyway, that's my reply for all this. Good day all.
Jewish schools in Poland are utterly conservative(I have friends that have attended them). I would think that the woman made a bigger mistake sending her child there than a Polish public school. I mean for example: public schools in Poland teach evolution, where in private institutions it's completely up to them to make the curriculum.
As for your future perception. According to the EU polls and UN WDR, Christianity has been increasing. I presume you mean the weakening of Church and State? I suppose so. From what I've seen a state can be religious and still claim tolerance. This is seen in many countries. The church shall remain a religious institution as always, but I would presume it will also always have ties to politics. Being that there are religious politicians, and the church getting involved in many ways both socially and economically. But the church in modern times isn't a stone in Polish politics as one might strongly see it, just an underlying influence thats migrated there overtime.
As for the thread starter: no, I doubt he/she was rejected into the EU for that. The majority of people that hold political seats in the EU are religious and christian.
To Orzel: I'm disgusted by your ignorance. Your claiming that religion is the reason why Poland is where it is today(which according to EU figures is pretty good)? If you really want to bring religion into this then fine. Fact: Poland wouldn't have the vast problems that it does today, if Stalin's atheistic communist regime had stayed out of Poland to begin with. So should I go around blaming atheists for Polands problems now? Such close-mindedness on your part. The church in Poland isn't what it might be in other areas of the world. It accounts for the vast majority of charity in the nation and has helped hospitals, educational systems, and the poor gravely. If your issue is with Polands modern problems of economy and infastructure, then that isn't the Poles and Poland's relgious problems. Ironically it was because of a regime that purged both of those as you insist on doing now.
To the Ancient Greek commentors: Religion in Ancient Greece was an odd thing. Let me start by saying that after the execution of Socrates for his atheism, atheim and agnostism became widespread in Ancient Greece. I believe some historians even say almost half of them were of such beliefs and it became a norm. As for the Greek Gods, yes it was like church today, but was used immensly for art, poetics, and mythology as Epiricus himself put it. It was believed by many, however religion in Ancient Greece wasn't as big as one might assume, and the ones that existed weren't enforced or enthralled. It was usually top philosophers and Ancient Greek notables that are known today that often had the stage for public opinion and thought, and they tended to be atheistic/agnostic. However mind you, Ancient Greece had become a country that was very dependent upon it sciences, arts, and most of all philosophies, and religion wasn't as focused to be structured like moderns religions are and priests weren't as widespread or popular. Hence, if God ever came into the picture at the intellectual scene of Ancient Greece it was either in the form of pantheism or agnostism (philisophical based arguments). Even people like Plato and Socrates claimed that using terms such as "By Zeus" were merely euphemisms such as one might say today: "My God! or Good Lord!". But nontheless religion did have a strong hold to be able to carry on into the Roman Empire and to merge to create their first religions.
Personally, I see it ironic how people at the time looked down upon the Ancient Greeks for having their liberal democratic system and having their widespread logistics and atheism/agnostism. Yet after years of fallen governments, kingdoms, empires, regimes, the modern world in majority has come back to the concept of democracy and the matter of logistics that the Ancient Greeks had.
Anyway, that's my reply for all this. Good day all.