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European Quality Of Life Index: Poland in the middle


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,677  
12 Oct 2009 /  #1
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219743/Britain-worst-place-live-Europe-despite-big-pay-packets.html

telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/household-bills/6284423/Britain-has-worst-quality-of-life-in-Europe-study-says.html

France best, UK worst but Germany and Poland together in the middle..whoa!
(We should really merge...)

Soon the English will come to Poland for work...*ducks*

(But I had thought Italy or Sweden higher...)


Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535  
12 Oct 2009 /  #2
(We should really merge...)

Freaky.

Soon the English will come to Poland for work...*ducks*

I dont think so...

And then...

The best place to live is where there is home. All other statistics dont matter.

Plus... wherever you get to have the money...that place can turn into paradise. Ofcourse... too much money might take away peace too.
mvefa 5 | 591  
12 Oct 2009 /  #3
This is a very weird chart, i mean if you look at the numbers the netherlands scores higher than France, the only area they beat us is life expectancy.

Besides average working hours in The Netherlands 30? that's not believable, almost everyone works 40 hours a week.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
12 Oct 2009 /  #4
Hm, the average working week in NL is less than in France? Hell, no way! France is known for having the shortest working week of the entire EU. I think they, for some weird reason have the ATV (Arbeids Tijd Verkorting - lit: Shortening of Working Time) into account, but that is not relevant; the working week in NL is generally 40 hrs and in with deduction of the 12 days (one per month) those ATV days, I come to a average working time of 38,15 hr. So most likely this is some sort of nonsense graph again, not very well researched by some journaille-crap that had nothing better to do but find sensational things.

Edit: ah, it's the Daily Mail. Thank God, we don't have to take it too seriously then.

>^..^<

M-G (average working week in France is 35 hrs at the most)
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,677  
12 Oct 2009 /  #5
The best place to live is where there is home. All other statistics dont matter.

Well...how do you explain the millions of immigrants from all over the world to poor little western Europe?

Plus... wherever you get to have the money...that place can turn into paradise.

Isn't that contradicting your earlier statement:

The best place to live is where there is home.

You're doped already at this hour??? ;)

Edit: ah, it's the Daily Mail. Thank God, we don't have to take it too seriously then.

The Telegraph too...this study isn't made by a paper, they are just writing about it...don't shoot the messenger! :)

guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/12/uk-poor-quality-life-survey
dnz 17 | 710  
12 Oct 2009 /  #6
This really isn't suprising at all really, Nu Labour have ruined the UK and now tony blair will get the opportunity to ruin Europe.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
12 Oct 2009 /  #7
The rest of the numbers (for NL at least) isn't correct either. Laura Clark, the writer of this nonsense, should go do what she does best: give head to anyone who wants, instead of bothering ppl with this nonsense.

don't shoot the messenger!

No. I'm just gonna shoot you instead.

>^..^<

M-G (grumpy)
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,677  
12 Oct 2009 /  #8
uswitch.com/press-room/press-releases

Shoot them!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
12 Oct 2009 /  #9
No, I will shoot you.

>^..^<

M-G (grumpy)
jwojcie 2 | 763  
12 Oct 2009 /  #10
Hm... those numbers just don't add up. I don't understand how it is posible
Poland:
1. net household income after taxes = 21331 GBP
2. GDP per head = 6984 GBP

Hm... maybe if in the household there are grandparents too ;-)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752  
12 Oct 2009 /  #11
It's clearly some nonsense graph based on nothing; dreamt up figures at best.

Everybody knows that France has the shortes working week in Europe.

>^..^<

M-G (more grumpy)
OsiedleRuda  
12 Oct 2009 /  #12
Absolutely. I live in a city where the average wage is about £20000 before tax, and I earn way above that, but I'd say that the majority earn less than £16000 round here. The last figures I read suggested that even in London, the average wage is only about £31000 before tax (and let's face it, even in London, most people earn a lot less - the figures are simply skewed by ridiculously high salaries in the City, which are comparatively few in number) so where on earth do they get figures like this from?

And where on earth do all these Polish families live, who have a NET monthly income of around 8000PLN a month??? That would need about four average-wage adults to live in one flat! With Poland having one of the highest unemployment rares in the EU, I find this extremely hard to believe.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
12 Oct 2009 /  #13
Well, the UK went beyond the US in terms of earnings last year,
business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article3137506.ece

Arguably, the crisis hit the US harder than the UK. Yet again, I bet Europeans think their quality of life is so much better than those in the US. Pointless stats really.

Poland ahead of the US, come off it.
George8600 10 | 636  
12 Oct 2009 /  #14
Net household income? You mean GDP per Capita? Yea those numbers are WAY off.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
12 Oct 2009 /  #15
When did that happen?
Wasn't Poland near the bottom of EU? Like 2 from the end of thereabouts?
Steveramsfan 2 | 306  
22 Nov 2009 /  #16
I want to move to Poland to work and I'm English :)

I don't want to live in England ever again, I want to live in Poland but can't get a mortgage.

I need an address in Poland to get a mortgage but I need a mortgage to get an address :(
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
22 Nov 2009 /  #17
Country 2009

Slovenia 28,524.110
Czech Republic 24,400.497
Slovak Republic 21,373.543
Hungary 18,547.933
Estonia 18,050.563
Poland 17,989.298
Lithuania 15,803.470

Russia 15,039.048
Latvia 14,304.258
Belarus 12,485.652
Bulgaria 11,759.518
Romania 11,755.413

Serbia 10,539.765
Bosnia and Herzegovina 7,489.756
Albania 7,018.736
Ukraine 6,460.737
Moldova 2,766.370

* EU countries

Wasn't Poland near the bottom of EU? Like 2 from the end of thereabouts?

we catched up with Hun and Est. Prbably will overtake em in next 2 yrs
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
22 Nov 2009 /  #18
With Poland having one of the highest unemployment rares in the EU

bolocks



Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #19
It was hardly that hard to catch up with Hungary as they made a hash of the transition from communism to capitalism. It was an unmitigated disaster!

Estonia? Well, they are rich in, um, almonds. 'In almonds we trust' is written on a bag I bought in Tallinn. Amber is more to be found in Lithuania and also Latvia.

Poland's unemployment rate ranges between 11-14%.
southern 75 | 7,096  
22 Nov 2009 /  #20
If hapiness is measured by vodka consumption Poland is at the top of the list.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #21
Standard of living is better, BB. Quality of life, for me personally, is every bit as much a spiritual thing as a material thing. If I have enough to live plus a nest egg, that'll do. My quality of life will be in ensuring that I'm never spiritually bankrupt as so many people are these days.
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
22 Nov 2009 /  #22
Poland's unemployment rate ranges between 11-14%.

oh cmon seanus. youve got all the data above. its less than 8%. or maybe you make your own resarch and more reliable statistics.

keep in mind that before 1989 and right after the collapse of commie block PL was the poorest ex commie country. with lesser gdp than soviet reps such as ukraine, belarus or todays eu outsiders - romania ,bulgaria


Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #23
GUS put the figure at 10.9% as of Sep 2009 and that had been the case for the previous 3 months. Labour market experts say that it's likely to rise to 12% by the end of the year. In all likelihood, around 11.5%.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
22 Nov 2009 /  #24
Poland is second only to Spain in number of holidays per year. That explains why my Polish colleagues always ask if there's a day off work for such-and-such because there is in Poland. No name days either? Tsk tsk!

I actually earn less, work more and get less holiday, although I get more sunshine and expect to live longer.
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
22 Nov 2009 /  #25
ok. different sources different data:

Poland unemployment in September 2009 , calculated according to the Eurostat methodology , grew by 0.1 points .

The European statistical office reported that in Poland the unemployment rate last month was 8.2 percent. compared to 8.1 per cent. in August.

Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #26
From Jun-Sep (inc) 2009, it rose by 0.1% each month so, according to that logic, it should be 11.1% at the end of this month. Exactly, McCoy, the sources are misleading. We cannot pretend to know either as neither of us have conducted any empirical research.
McCoy 27 | 1,269  
22 Nov 2009 /  #27
thank you master yoda. next time ill be much more careful. may the force be with you.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
22 Nov 2009 /  #28
LOL, nothing like a bit of humour to take away the mind-numbing nature of stats :)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454  
23 Nov 2009 /  #29
I need an address in Poland to get a mortgage but I need a mortgage to get an address :(

Then do what most people would do and rent somewhere!

Or register at your girlfriends place.

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