UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in UK. Ch. 1 - Staring [43]


I've grown to enjoy the liberal approach the mods have but little sh*ts like you who aint even Polish keep trolling on it gets bad, you're not Polish you cant speak Polish so gtfo and stop producing these idiotic posts.

Pricks who come to troll here pretending to be Polish and spouting crap ought to be banned.

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]


Oh please! Newsflash, Germans, Russians and Austrians decided there wont be any Poland, at all, ever.

And then comes a guy and gives us a chunk of our land back and hope for more and you say he did nothing?




You call that a pitifull spread of land? Thats almost 2/3rd of pre-partition Poland!

He gave us back some of our home when we had none, he gave us freedom and dignity back and asked to fight our opressors for him, yes he did it for himself but saying he did nothing when he did so much is absolute rubbish and a blatant lie.


So you're saying that a guy who said "give me 100k Poles and i'll conquer the world" or "a 100 Poles are worth a 1000 in battle" was prejudiced? What are you some covert Russian communist or was your father in UB propaganda office?


What was misjudged? If he won against Russia and he was close we'd have our country back in time.

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]


Nope, he did not create the Duchy of Warsaw, he did not allow Poles to live in a free country, he did not restore Polish liberties and freedom.

********.

Now lets say it otherwise, Napoleon was a greedy little fvck and he never did anything for Poland that he didnt see benefit him in turn but he DID do a lot for Poland, saying that a guy who gave us back part of our country did nothing when everyone else wanted us off the map is nuts.


No he was not, USA is prejudiced and abusive against Polish citizens and exploits Poland giving nothing in return, he exploited Poland but he gave us LOTS in return, like a free country to live in.


Would you prefer to be ruled by Germans who wanted to wipe out our culture? Russians who back then were almost as backwards as nowdays? Regardless of his vision he gave us a free country, even if only for few years and even if he didnt do it from the kindness of his heart it was worth it, if only because we could sing our national anthem and teach our kids who they are.

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]


As true as it gets then.


In French situation? Everything, royals had him for an upstart peasant but he was more bearable then the rule of the people so France was not pressured as much as it could be and it was able to gather resources to fight more efficiently then if it was democratic.

News / Why do Poland block the European Constitution? [68]


At the same time we were under the Russian belt so there's two options, either West decides to give East some time or we go two separate ways, in the latter case EU dies untill someone else brings it up in the future and oddly enough its the West that will lose the most in the long term.


After WW2 everyone and their brother was nationalistic Poland included, why do you think we took Vilinus away from Lithuania, there were no conditions for any kind of reconciliation back then.

News / Why do Poland block the European Constitution? [68]


And thats exactly why both the two velocities and the constitution are bad ideas, right now Germans look down at Poles, Poles dont like Germans, Brits and France have their own beef etc.

Give it one generation of open borders and stuff like constitution or even an European military will work, right now people are either trying to rush things or create divisions.

The two velocities will estrange much of EU and change it into a purely economical relationship which the eastern countries will bail the moment western economies begin the fail, the idea is not for them to leave but help out once this downward trend begins for good in the West, right now you're investing in the poorer half of EU but if you divide it they wont invest back when you need it and they have it so two velocities is not only undermining EU at its most basic root concept but also making you waste money in the long term.

News / Why do Poland block the European Constitution? [68]


Aye but if you're talking integration then its integration, people cant be bought, they will pretend to like you because you're powerfull and you have money but the moment you stop being powerfull and wealthy they'll give you the finger, especially if they become powerfull and wealthy in your stead.

At some point this needs to become a unification of sentiments and sympathies rather than economy, the two velocities will put an end to that for good.


I gave my opinion about them too many times, your own analysts are raising hell too.
nber.org/feldstein/siebert.html

Its not magic, social spending in the West is unsustainable and changing it without losing power is impossible since the populace is used to it and wont give it away willingly so you have virtually all of developed Europe living on credit.


Why not completely rethink the concept of the Union and go for Europe of nations instead of Europe of regions?

Some guy from the moon came up with the concept of the Europe of regions without time for people to adapt, its not something thats going to be possible in our lifetimes, first lets have Europe of nations and equals (not different velocities) and improve from there, in 20-40 years when old wounds are fully healed and international unity and trust is not just a political slogan, then lets start working towards Europe of regions, a constitution or European superpower.

News / Why do Poland block the European Constitution? [68]


Actually thats the way EU will fall, in the long term its also the West commiting suicide, every and i mean every analysis has Western countries stop and then degrade economically within 20 years due to aging pop, minority issues and the weight of the social solutions.

At the same time the developing countries of the Eastern Europe will keep developing, right now the only reason new members hang out with the crowd is because of the money not because of any feeling of sympathy or continental unity, two velocities will prevent any unity based on positive sentiments and by the time Eastern Europe surpasses Western one in economical terms it'll just give the West a finger and leave the EU.

If Germans want two velocities its fine by me but its a long term suicide for you guys since you will need the East to even keep your economies alive in a not so distant future.

Life / Scientology in Poland [24]


To be specific Scientologists believe that an alien emperor brought dissident alien in space jumbo jets (according to Hubbard) down to Earth and dumped them all into volcanoes killing them and we are reincaranted souls of these guys, it stuff gets better but i dont remeber the details.


Woah buddy, its not a religion its a sect, a dangeorous one at that, they use slave labor, branwashing, abduction and mobbing.


Not 100k dollars.


Yes you do but to what degree is it present in your modern culture?

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]


They were representative of European monarchies, France had more luck with its revolution because unlike Poland it had Napoleon, Poland had a weak and cowardly king Stanislaw August.

Paradoxally while France changed a king to an emperor Poland was at the time the only country in the world (outside of US) grasping true democracy.

Life / Scientology in Poland [24]


Like whorish teens, drugs and p*ss shallow culture, totally lets go for it.


As far as i know Scientology is banned in Poland which is why they were never able to set up shop officially and even their illegal front has trouble since its attacked from all sides by aware institutions and by the CC.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

Whats there to ignore? Your people together with Hungarians gave Poland the Hussars, but Winged Hussars of XVII century had nothing in common with light Hungarian/Serbian style Hussars of XIV and XV century, Serbs contributed nothing at Vienna.


Turkish married to a Serbian girl that i abuse on a daily basis.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

Anyway lets see if i can get the hang of putting pictures in so i can post some unit types.

I'm not going to describe Lithuanian units for the simple fact that there were none, Sobieski had to rush for it and the Lithuanian army simply didnt make it in time, what was there was only the Polish arm of the Commonwealth.

The ultimate charge was actually not done ony by Polish Hussars but also by Polish Armored (a type of medium cavalry specific to the Commonwealth).

Winged Hussar

There we go i worked out the images, gotta imageshack this.

Pancerni (The Armored) a lesser known heavy/medium cavalry type, these guys were wearing a thick chainmail and used a heavy cavalry spear.

Pancerny (the Armored)

Polish Western style heavy/medium cavalry, the Arquebusiers (in Lithuania known as Reitars) though they used muskets like everyone else the name stuck.

Heavy Arquebusiers (these guys were actually the heaviest component of the Polish army having full plate armors).

Polish dragoons - regular light cavalry, same as pretty much everywhere in the West, without armor, armed with pistols, muskets and sabers.

Polish light signs. Light noble cavalry.
Often armed with lances, spears, bows and pistols, with much more skill and training being nobles they formed the bulk of Polish cavalry.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]


Yeah probably around 20 or 30 of them.


Sorry mate, Hungarian Hussars were a Hungarian invention influenced in part by the Turks and Mongols and in part by Western Knights, Polish Winged Hussars started out as Hungarian Hussars but later grew into heavy cavalry closer to earlier French Gendarmes or Polish lancers, either way Polish cavalry under Vienna had nothing to do with Serbian military traditions.


I'm sorry but Winged Hussar and the Armoured cavalry tactics were developed based on Western heavy cavalry and Eastern Tatars, they had nothing to do with Serbia again.


And then Germans went and invented the Prussian army, and then Napoleon went and squashed their army and then Bismarck squashed Napoleon and then Russians and Americans squashed everybody, while at the time Poland ceirtanly was head and shoulders above anyone except Swedes no ethnicity has ultimate monopoly on superiority of arms, it changes with times Crow.

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]

Numbers do not power make says Israel.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

Actually there was a "croat" company serving in Polish infantry which had a number of Hungarians, Wallachians, there was probably an odd Serb there, all in all about 70-90 musketeers so yeah Serbs saved the day :))

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]



Sorry but no, Polish constitution was a direct reason behind such swift invasion, a country bordering three absolute monarchies suddenly comes up with a democratic constitution that stands against everything a lone tyrant represents.

Poland had to go because it got weak but it had to go quickly because it was becoming democratic, Europe was definitely not ready for Poland.


Everything depends on how you approach it, you can have national identity without force feeding others with it via armed invasion, to be a patriot doesnt always mean to be a nationalist.


Both Russia and Germany were already dysfunctional nations but thats not the most important issue, the most important issue is that they were absolute monarchies, if you're a king you dont want your subjects getting funny ideas from this country just across the corner.


Without Russia thats about 90 milion, with Russia (just the European part) thats over a quarter of a bilion people.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]


You can kiss my ass you ignorant ****, the reply wasnt even directed to you or in ten miles radius around you.

@BB the horse has been beaten to death and then some lets keep our respective opinions and stick at that, still despite all that happened i prefer Germany over Turkey but thats a civilizational and cultural thing, i can relate to you guys you're quite likeable when you dont try to kill everything thats not aryan and since you didnt try for nearly 70 years there's hope, i cant for the life of me relate to Turks but facts and figures alone your history beats everything anyone ever came up, technology or not.

Another fact is that most Poles myself included rolled on to a large degree, even our previous administration wasnt well received for pissing on Germany.


Nope, for kings freedom, thats not quite the same:)


According to your logic every war these days should be a genocidal nightmare because we have 20x better tools to wipe people out, Poland alone has enough chemical and biological weapons left over from the "good times" to gas half of Europe.

It doesnt matter what technology you have but how you apply it, even Serbia despite all the hype about them being genocidal buggers didnt go on shooting sarin filled shells into towns.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]


Rubbish, we were in the position of Germany from 1400s to 1650s, thats a quarter of millenium of absolutely unchallenged power, the worst we did was mess up a few Moscow districts and abuse Ukrainians a bit.


Then tell me why did Poles invite Germans, granted them laws and priveliges, same for Ruthenians really, why didnt Poland circa 1500 just march into Saxony Branderburgia and assorted states and tell the locals its our historical lands and please dont tell me that various German statelets could do anything but sh*t themselves in that particular period.


Absolutely, everyone including Poland has some bad pages in their books but you just managed to surpass everyone, even Attilla or Czyngis Chan got the back seat, even Assyrians who used to nail newborn babies to their siege towers didnt match WW2 Germany.


You know i try, you should know best that i have mixed feelings about Germany, from one side i really admire your national potential but from the other i'd like Germany to be somewhere safe, like Australia.

As for seeing things from someone elses perspective? First you took Polish lands, then after WW1 you lost them and started WW2 to take back the lands their previous owners won back from you 29 years earlier.

You know? I could probably see your point despite all that, national pride is a big thing in Warsaw so why would Berlin be different, moral basis aside i could probably relate to something simple like getting satisfaction but i could never relate to moonscaping Warsaw, gassing a fifth of my people or having newborn children chucked out of death trains.

Personally i whole heartedly forgave Germany and hope for a better mutual future, sh*t happens, sometimes its big but you have to roll on but i will never ever accept any sort of rationalisation of what happened, any reason you might have had in the beginning was not reason enough in the end.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

Ah yes when faced with hard facts you resort to your old ways :))))

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]


Are you f*cking stupid? Of course you are. Germans started 2 (TWO) WORLD wars, in the second one they commited the single most hideous feat of genocide in the history of any nation, any race and any period, when it comes to murder, rape, degradation, torture and abuse Germans won the golden medal of human race and you call that prejudice? Are you a foking moron?


No but they happened.


Each year when i visit my familys graves i'm personally involved, when i visit Warsaw and i see an ugly concrete city in the place of what was once called "Paris of the East."

When i took a trip to a concentration camp, when i look at how small my nation is in comparison to others because it lost 20% of its numbers, f*ck yes i'm personally involved, my grandchildren will be personally involved, the same can be said for milions across Europe.


By history.


Whats backward? Claiming that Turks are more humane that Germans? History proves me right.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

What always matters is the bottom line and the bottom line is that Germans with their Mozart, Bach and Shubert are capable of behaviour so monstrous i couldnt say with a straight face that Europe wouldnt be better off if every German man, woman and child got killed post WW2, Turks with all their backwardness never built Dachau on the other hand.

History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]


No it was not, the battle was a disaster, much of the Polish army was slaughtered and the price got beheaded, all the others you mentioned deserve their place but the mongols withdrawed only becuase of the death of their leader.


While historically we know it was a mistake (whatever can be said about Turks they're more civilized than Germans, Turks never ever started a world war) Sobieski at the time didnt know that.

Polish power was already waning, in fact Vienna was the last great military (succesfull) effort Poland undertook for more than a hundred years and Germany at the time was a powerless midget that Polish military could squash, the way history turned around a hundred years later was in no way obvious at Sobieskis time (though there were hints).


Quite the opposite, Turks were very much for spreading Islam, they didnt succeed in Hungary but thats mainly because there were usually European armies somewhere in the back of the picture.

History / Another WWII thread. [69]


Yes and no, Hitler didnt want a war with GB mainly because of the two fronts, yes he admired it but if continental Europe would be conquered he'd invade UK without a blink, the world was two small for two European powers and the way Hitler dealt with Rommel shows exactly how much his admiration of a given subject was worth if said subject stood in his way and UK with its navy could prevent Germany from becoming a naval superpower.


Oddly enough he didnt, ceirtanly UPA and other small scale organisations in the East were such examples but mostly it was Germans runnish the show, even his generals remarked on his mishandling of local populations (especially in Russia) that might well cost him the war.


Thats absolutely impossible by any stretch, a fascist state revolving around war cannot and will not bear any competition and the channel was thin enough that any cold war instantly turn hot, history proves regardless of Hitlers claim war between two regional power always, always broke out.


Is it your opinion that it was foolish?:)

History / Polish contribution to England during war [60]


Hard to say, Poles cracked the enigma which was a massive contribution but as far as BoB while our pilots were the best of both airforces (British and German) they shot 12% of total German aircraft in BoB, thats a LOT in relation to how many Polish fighter pilots were there but its not neccesarily a decisive amount.

The argument can be made however that Poles helped UK survive the most crucial weeks when not enough pilots could be trained.

Life / Polish dudes and glossy magazines. [4]


You're at a dentists, there's 9 people before you and nothing to do, there's circumstances that make it forgivable.


Oxymoron? :O

Love / Broken Heart, An amazing girl from Poland [139]


Of course you could tell him he acts like a creepy sad fag who acts out his remorse over being rejected by multiple Polish girls on this here forum but you didnt, so i will :)

MG if a girl doesnt want you its not because she's Polish and you're not, it can be because you smell, because you're fugly or just because you're a twat, even here you're acting like a sad little creep, if thats your approach to women no wonder you're getting burned and have to settle for moaning on an internet forum, you're a mighty insecure bugger given all your statements, a small penis syndrome is a nasty thing to have.

Love / Broken Heart, An amazing girl from Poland [139]


Because they never choose you, it could be that you're ugly and annoying but nah ... I bet its them :))))
Lets translate Maregeaspeak into plain english:))

In short, girls like tall well built guys, you didnt like him because his presence burned your (probably microscopic anyway) chances of having an actuall real live hot girl talk to you:))))

God it must have hurt when they all rejected you if you're so angry such a long time afterwards:)

My advice? Take a bath, shave, work out a bit, stop acting like a faggot and then maybe you wont have to invent imaginary boyfriends to justify how much you fail.

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]

If Commonwealth would still be here Americans wouldnt be fat and stupid, its that simple.

Love / Broken Heart, An amazing girl from Poland [139]


Whats there to interact, just take a stroll through a colored city district in the evening and enjoy the fun, not to mention you can recognize districts where blacks or muslims live by what an utter dump they are.


Which is why its blacks who invented cars, antibiotics and free speech, oh wait ...


Is it? Its ceirtanly dangerous and a slippery slope but not necceserily dumb, fact is whites created civilisation and what they didnt invent they perfected and re-purposed in such ways as original inventors never dreamed of (from Chinese firecrackers to modern rocketry for example).

But lets not get into that, the point is that these minorities create dangerous hostile dumps wherever they choose to live, why is that? They have the same opportunities and obstacles as whites yet they manage to make an absolute pit of out every place they stay and it transfers into relationships, its not like their cultural background doesnt play a part.