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osiol   
27 Feb 2009
Life / City Pole versus country Pole [27]

Do Londoners not look down at country people?.

They do. There is often a lack of understanding. I remember waiting on the platform of Bethnal Green station to return to Hertford, thence to the house I was living in out in a tiny village. The centre of London is bright lights, big city. Then around that there are areas like Bethnal Green, where it is part high-rise, part grotty estates, but partly gentrified inner-city suburb. There were a couple of chavs on the platform. They were talking in their London Jafakean accents about there dreams of making some money and moving out to Crews Hill. Crews Hill is one of the outermost parts of Greater London - still essentially a village surrounded by both fields and big expensive houses and some rather expensive estates, plus lots of garden centres. These kids didn't dream of getting out of London entirely, just to it's outer limits. I like London, but wouldn't want to live there.

My girlfriend and her family are probably fairly typical of Poles who have relocated to England - they come from a very small town somewhere close to Poland's border with Belorus. There is very little there, and is probably one of the country's most economically depressed areas. Other Poles I have met and worked with have often come from villages. Many have driven tractors since they were barely old enough to walk or at least have an uncle who has a farm or something. "Big city Poles" are probably far less likely to take jobs doing manual labour in the English countryside, however...

not everybody takes care of the farm animals in the country but also not everybody has a job in the city

One forum member I know comes from a farmy sort of background, but goes against this country bumpkin stereotype. Then remember the scallies on Bethnal Green station I mentioned. Poland's cities aren't all bright lights either.
osiol   
26 Feb 2009
Law / Linux, Unix, and Open Source in Poland [119]

Today I'm 010100001 0101010 10101010

Anyone ever tried counting in binary on their fingers?
You can reach 31 on just one hand, 1023 on both hands and a ridiculously large number if you start to use your toes and other appendages.
osiol   
26 Feb 2009
Life / Confirmation / Bierzmowanie - tradition in Poland [9]

How can anybody state about his spiritual understanding if he lived in a catholic ( or any other ) cage.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that no-one in an organised religion could have spiritual understanding. I just don't think a child is old enough to make such a decision. The whole point here is that it's not the child's decision. People may delude themselves into thinking that it is.

God can be a strain on relationships.
osiol   
25 Feb 2009
Life / Confirmation / Bierzmowanie - tradition in Poland [9]

I thought that six years of age is too young for confirmation as it requires spiritual understanding, ability to reason and capacity to understand the concept of sin. Or is it really just a step in the process of indoctrination? It wasn't until I was about twelve that I became a "good statistic" for the church, but then I'm asking about Roman Catholic practice amongst Poles, not about Anglicanism. I didn't understand much about it all even at that age. I don't think even then I was a believer. I'm certainly not a believer now.

"There is no God. Nie ma bogu." I stated, partly hoping that my attempt at translating the statement would work, also hoping that it would ruffle a few feathers but not too much. "Może tak, może nie. Kościół? Nie." We all need a bit of counterbalance in life. I neither put my faith in there being a God, nor there not being a God.

Anyone here got any thoughts on confirmation? Perhaps someone could be a little more positive about it.
osiol   
24 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / List of goods taken from living in the UK [64]

British summer - short but sweet!

That's just the summer that occurs in the wintertime. Autumn winters and spring winters can be equally short.

food would be the last good thing in this country

Come round and I'll cook some good English food. It won't keep long enough to take out of the country though.
osiol   
23 Feb 2009
Language / ANGLOS HAVE TROUBLE WITH SZCZ, SOME WITH TRILLED 'R' [22]

im having trouble saying the r in polish, any tips on how to do it?

Practice it, preferably in private. The tip of your tongue has to vibrate against the roof of your mouth, so it is best to make sure that your tongue is relaxed. If you're really having trouble, practise it without using your voice, but just blowing air through your mouth and trying to get that flapping motion going. Still finding it difficult? Try adjusting how far behind your teeth the tip of your tongue is. Start with it right behind the teeth, and as you expel air through your buccal cavity, move the tongue slowly back away from the teeth. At some point, you should find the right amount of flappiness (or vibration if you want a more technical term).

If none of that works, try it all again but this time not in private. That way, at least someone will have a good laugh listening to you. Here endeth lesson one. Part two, anyone?
osiol   
22 Feb 2009
Feedback / yeah I am pretty sick of the bullying [17]

I knew somebody was missing on PF:) today

I've been busy in Polishton, Polishshire eating zywonsc and piwoing and vodkaing. Or something like that. Playing on a trampoline with a serious vodka hangover is not a good idea. Who's been bullying whom and who deserves a good Osiol hoofing?
osiol   
16 Feb 2009
Language / which verbs take biernik [8]

I would assume the verb to take the accusitive for the direct object unless I have learnt it to be otherwise (szukac with genitive, pozwalac with dative, etc.) It's the one to fall back on if you don't know because it's probably the most common.
osiol   
15 Feb 2009
News / What does Poland mean to you? [66]

Poland, the meaning of...
Land of the Poles.

But someone seems to have stolen it from one of my maps. Luckily, before I posted this, another map turned up that looks a bit like the missing piece.

Most threads on here quickly become British v. (insert country).

Maybe with some clever modern technology, someone could insert Poland back into its correct place.
Inserting countries is never particularly easy, even with very small ones like Monaco or Liechtenstein.


  • Someone has stolen Poland

  • This looks a bit like a very simple map of Poland
osiol   
14 Feb 2009
Language / Conditional - tryb przypuszczający [21]

Jeszcze raz nie rozumiem.

I probably haven't been putting my mind to it when I have found a decent source. It's just that -by- thing that I don't get.
osiol   
14 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / Immigrants in Peterborough [9]

For me, Peterborough is almost St. Petersburg but without the saintly aspect.
The railway station is one of the bleakest, lonliest places I've ever spent three hours. It nearly crushed my soul.

It is ironic that Mrs Patel being a native of the Indian sub-continent should be against further immigration :-)

The words "ladder" and "kick" come to mind. This is all actually fairly typical.
osiol   
14 Feb 2009
Language / Conditional - tryb przypuszczający [21]

I'm finding it really difficult to learn about conditionals. With a search, only three pages turn up. One is completely useless, this one's mostly just a PF chinwag, and the last would be good if it wasn't just copied out of a textbook.
osiol   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

comments like yours better serve challenging the op than disparaging comments about poles and poland do.

Can you translate this for me please?
osiol   
14 Feb 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Four months isn't long enough to see a country, especially if you only live and work in a couple of different places. You're most likely to live in only one town, probably in a not-so well-off area and do a job that doesn't mix you with a particularly wide variety of people.
osiol   
14 Feb 2009
Life / 52% Poles: life in Poland is bad... [46]

Januaries often feel worse, but Christmases can be tough as well. February at least is a shorter month. Why they didn't put it at the start of the year is something of a mystery. They probably just didn't have the same pressures in life back then.

Ask them in the summer. Pick people in well off areas in nice parts of the more affluent cities. Remember to smile when asking the positively worded questions.
osiol   
13 Feb 2009
Language / Poles! How do you cope with English phonetics versus English spelling? [37]

As to French, i agree, there's a real difference between the way you write and the way you spell it, but on the whole, i think English is 'worse' ;)

I think I agree about English being worse than French. At least with French, you can generally just discard any consonants at the end of a word (sometimes more letters than you actually keep) and take it from there and it's not too bad.

English has too many vowels. It's one thing that I think Polish could do with more of rather than less.
osiol   
12 Feb 2009
UK, Ireland / POLISH SUICIDES IN THE UK [21]

there seemed to be no one there from the "system" to help people in their darkest hour.

The man doesn't have a human face.

Every suicide is a tragedy. I can't imagine how lonely someone could feel with no money, no job and no family close by, not even being able to afford the fare home. Suicide rates are highest amongst young men who are some of the least likely people to confide in family and close ones when times are difficult.
osiol   
12 Feb 2009
Language / What do you find difficult about learning Polish? [98]

7 cases in Polish and you are sweating.
We got 15 in Finnish

But how many exceptions or anomalies are there? Another point is that (I hope I get this right) Finnish doesn't have grammatical gender.
osiol   
11 Feb 2009
Language / What do you find difficult about learning Polish? [98]

Perfective and imperfective verbs are the latest thing I'm having difficulty with.

why do people learn Polish as a foreign language?

Just for fun really. I have a need to natter. When the people around me were all nattering in Polish, I was left with little choice. I had always wanted to learn another language, and there's something off-putting about languages like French and German.