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TheOther   
3 Sep 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

which proves no one assimilated, no one gave up, everyone was waiting and the entire nation took a chance the moment it came.

This sounds as if each and every Pole waited for the revolution since the last partition happened. Very patriotic point of view, but isn't that more like wishful thinking combined with political propaganda (no pun intended)? Isn't it much more probable that the vast majority of ethnic Poles just wanted to live in peace - no matter who was ruling them? Villeins most likely didn't care whether their master was Polish, Prussian or Russian. Out of curiosity: do you have any reliable sources which show that the majority of ethnic Poles (instead of a minority of Polish intellectuals) supported the resistance/uprisings you've mentioned?

Yeah none, except Poland.

Portugal
TheOther   
3 Sep 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

Saying that we'd assimilate when we stayed strong for 130 years and never gave a sign of wearing down is pretty arrogant.

Why would that be arrogant? It happened to others countless times in the past, and it will happen again in the future. What makes you think that Polish people are completely

different than everybody else in this respect?
TheOther   
3 Sep 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

restitution of Poland was only a matter of time WW1 or not, you cant wipe a large nation off the map permanently without extensive genocide

If oppression would have been unbearable before WW1, I would agree, but that wasn't the case. I believe that without WW1 the Poles simply would have continued to arrange themselves with the system and would have stayed "good" German, Russian or Austro-Hungarian citizens while keeping their Polish culture.
TheOther   
3 Sep 2009
News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

As to Poland getting it's independence was created by Józef Piłsudski, Poles and Polish legions.

Dream on. Without WW1 the official first language of the Polish people would be either German or Russian.
TheOther   
21 Aug 2009
Life / IS POLISH PATRIOTISM OBSOLETE? [34]

Polonius3

Of course you can be proud of your country ... quietly and with respect for others.
TheOther   
20 Aug 2009
Love / Is Polish girls' beauty a myth? [78]

southern
Certain men are not travelling to western countries because the girls over there are too difficult to get for them. They prefer eastern Europe instead...
TheOther   
19 Aug 2009
Genealogy / No documents found regarding my late grandfather? (born in Grajewo) [23]

her husband died when she was pregnant...

Then I'm pretty sure that your grandfather wasn't born in Grajewo.

I checked at the town she was born at, Rajgrod, and nothing was found there either

Do you know where the parents and siblings of the mother of your grandfather lived? If I were you I would first check the parishes where the above mentioned persons resided, before contacting the archives.
TheOther   
18 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Can US citizenship through marriage be 'transfered' to a new spouse? [16]

this process takes a year once again to do

Don't count on it. Since 9/11 the INS is so far behind in processing the greencard applications that it can easily take up to 3 years before you get one. Happened to some friends of mine.
TheOther   
18 Aug 2009
Genealogy / No documents found regarding my late grandfather? (born in Grajewo) [23]

Is your grandfather older than his siblings? Maybe your information about his DOB and place of birth is incorrect and he was born in a different parish and/or on a different date. Maybe his parents moved to Grajewo after he was born or his mother stayed with relatives somewhere else to give birth there?
TheOther   
18 Aug 2009
Love / Poland reverse of fortune in dating [124]

We cannot understand where lies the attraction

Maybe those guys have charme and are good listeners? The looks are only important when you first meet. Afterwards they're just a "nice to have".
TheOther   
18 Aug 2009
History / Communists blaming pre-war Polish government for WW2? [6]

the russians blamed the poles for that

Yeah, I remember that one. But this one here is about the Polish commies blaming their own pre-war government for WW2. I never heard about that. You?
TheOther   
18 Aug 2009
History / Communists blaming pre-war Polish government for WW2? [6]

Someone told me in a different thread that the Polish communists blamed the pre-war government of Poland for the outbreak of WW2 (or for the attack of Germany and Russia on Poland, respectively). Is this true and if yes, in what way did the commies blame them? I couldn't find anything related on the web.
TheOther   
15 Aug 2009
Life / Bringing up children in Poland. [16]

Also the church of Scientology

That's a (IMHO criminal) cult and not a church, although they desperately try to make it look that way to be exempt from taxes.
TheOther   
15 Aug 2009
Love / Techniques for meeting Polish girls [68]

I've also heard that Germans and Swedes are pretty bad when on holiday

English girls seem to have the worst reputation in Mediterranean countries

Even in the good old pre-AIDS times, English, German and Swiss ladies were the easiest while the American gals were the most complicated.
TheOther   
14 Aug 2009
Love / Why are more Polish girls marrying Americans? [77]

very much disappointed to know that Polish girls are marrying Americans

Oh shock!

The number is growing day by day

Oh the horror!

is there any valid reason for this?

That you work in an embassy? No.

is it all about better life and job

Maybe a little love, too?

are Americans better than us? are we poor and worthless

Guess...

coming back after few years with broken hearts

Because they've got the pink slip from their lovers and couldn't cope with the American way of life afterwards?

I think i need to take anger management classes. what do you say

I suggest, you simply relax.
TheOther   
14 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

the records were kept by the Catholic Church regardless of religious affliation

Yes, because the protestant church was under enormous pressure until approx. 1767.

I have heard it said that the church books show that the first settlers in this area mostly came from West Prussia

You know about these sources?

kerntopf.com/diverses/kolliste.htm

odessa3.org/collections/land/poland

odessa3.org/collections/land/wprussia

And the Low German they spoke seemed to have some elements of Dutch and Low Prussian.

One of my grandmothers was fluent in Low German (Plattdeutsch). The dialect is actually a mixture of German, English and Dutch elements. Would you believe that my grandma understood English although she never learned it at school?
TheOther   
14 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

I sometimes long for the days when mating was just a club-swing away.

Didn't you want to say "when mating was just a swinger-club away"?
TheOther   
14 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

They moved to Zajeziorek, Zale, Rypin, Poland

These are the microfilms available at an LDS family history centre near you (in case your ancestors were catholic):

Poland, Bydgoszcz, Żałe (Rypin) - Church records

Kopie księg metrykalnych, 1808-1891 Kościół rzymsko-katolicki. Parafja Żałe (Rypin)
Kopie księg metrykalnych, 1810-1841 Kościół rzymsko-katolicki. Parafja Żałe (Rypin)
Księgi metrykalne, 1746-1891 Kościół rzymsko-katolicki. Parafja Żałe (Rypin)

It is almost impossible to trace people back to western Europe, by the way. There are no written sources other than the usual suspects. One web site you might find interesting though:

upstreamvistula.org/index.htm
TheOther   
14 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

I hope you don't believe, that this guy lives in the states

I don't know him, so I'm not sure. He shows some "typical Republican" behaviour, though.
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

The German Onamastik article just goes to show that an almost identical process existed in German-speaking lands

You will find the same in the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, and to a certain extent Switzerland.

German often prefaced the locality with von, the Dutch with van and the French with de.

The "de" as part of the family name was also widespread in northern Germany, simply meaning "the"
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

My dad's ancestors came from the Poznan/ Posen vicinity, and I was able to trace one line back to 1715. Too many wars, lost church books and drunken priest in that area. My mum's ancestors came from the Bremen/ Hannover area. The earliest proven ancestor I found was born in 1480.
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

What do you think?

Might be a good idea, although in reality it's much more complicated. There are places in Germany for example, where the groom always took the "family name" of the bride. And the brides' name was derived from the name of the farm/cottage her parents lived on (so-called "Hofname"). Very difficult to track, because every generation you have different family names in the male line.
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

I don't think so...

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. If you're talking about the present, the Wikipedia explanation is correct. But go back 400 or 500 years, and it's a different story. I've been into genealogy for a long time and I had some "von's" in my German lineage as well. Turned out they weren't nobility at all.

If it would be common far more people would have it in their names

Depends. Starting in the 15th century many people gave up the "von" in their surname, but others kept it. BTW: up until 1874 there were no official rules in Prussia on how to write your surname. That's why you have so many variations in family names in that era.
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
Genealogy / POLISH (-ski) and ENGLISH (of) = TOPONYMIC NICKS [18]

In Germany the "von" means rather nobility

The "von" in a German family name is very rarely linked to a noble family. Most of the time it is an addition to the family name which points to a certain place. Like "Hans von Hamburg", meaning either "Hans lives in Hamburg" or "Hans was born in Hamburg" (but now lives in another place).
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

unjustified mess based on lies, lies and more lies.. boo

and then unbelievably americans said, you're doing heck of a job bushy,

I take it that you are a Republican... :)

What was the approval rating of Bush in the end, once again? Remember what happened to Bush's poodle? Nah, going into Iraq a second time was a big time mistake. Since then, thousands of troops and an unknown number of civilians have been killed, billions of dollars been wasted for nothing. Heck of a job, bushy...

But who poodle?

Tony Blair
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

Scrappy is the only Americano here with an inferiority complex.

Never met one before... :)

God help your local dentist.

Sorry that I cannot live up to your stereotype ... I'm no Pom, have shiny white teeth and not a single filling.
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

its easy to critisie your host, maybe one day you will do it to your own nation, i mean i could easily pick on a nation that i have lived in for years but was not born in, therefore not a citizen of that country

To voice my personal opinion doesn't depend on whether I live in my country of birth or in another one.

You're a limey?

Nope, born in Australia.