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sjam   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

The ordinary Red Army soldiers were heroes if it wasn't for their enormous blood sacrifice the Germans would never have been defeated in the East. We owe the Red Army a huge debt of gratitude and respect for that sacrifice; in the 'west' they are the forgotten heroes of WWII (not forgetting the Polish 1st Corps course :-))
sjam   
3 Mar 2009
History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]

When I asked him how many blacks were there

With respect maybe this says something about your views on racism and what is racist?
sjam   
3 Mar 2009
History / Polish soldier stories [50]

a company called spink which made Polish medals for the ones fighting in the west in ww2

The company was:
Spink & Son
London
England

They no longer make medals or badges but are an auction house now.
sjam   
2 Mar 2009
History / Why communism failed in Poland? [275]

Communism failed in the eastern block, because the Soviet Union gave weapon-production top priority to an ununjustifiable degree.

Precisely put...

... and because the US as the world's richest economy could keep outspending the USSR on its own weapons development and production without damaging the rest of the US economy, in fact it had the opposite effect, defense spending was responsible for huge growth in the US economy.

Who do you (as a nation) plan to bury there?

One day... Communism :-)
sjam   
24 Feb 2009
History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

Fortunately the laws of Poland disagree with you.

Fictions are nothing new to Sokrates. Using the term 'Polish Concentration Camps' was claimed to be banned in Poland by Sokrates which is just not true either!

Which reminds me, the police haven't come knocking on my door yet. Haven't you followed up on your threat to report my criminal behaviour?

Delusional fantasist!
sjam   
23 Feb 2009
History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]

Indeed? This is a fiction from the begining.

Indeed that is why it is called a novel!

If only Zofia Kossak-Szatkowska were still around so you could put her straight with your obvious expertise on the crusades ;-)
sjam   
23 Feb 2009
History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]

Founded before the taking of Jerusalem in 1099 by the armies of the First Crusade—the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes (or Knights of Malta as they are sometimes known) began life as a Christian military force whose mission was to defend the land conquered by the Crusaders and Polish knights I believe were part of this order?

Zofia Kossak Szatkowska was considered as one of Poland's leading historical novelists (which were translated into 16 languages) and brought her critical acclaim. I am not sure but I believe she was a member of Knights of Malta so might have had some knowledge of the Crusades via this organisation.

Zofia Kossak Szatkowska had an 'interesting' life. Although she was an outspoken anti-semite, Zofia Kossak Szatkowska was a co-founder of Polish “The Council to Aid Jews” (“Żegota”) in Warsaw for which she was posthumously awarded “The Righteous Amongst Nations” medal and plaque in Jerusalem. She survived imprisonment at Auschwitz-Birkenau and Pawiak Prison, where she was sentenced to death, she was freed in July 1944 due to Polish Underground after which she participated in the Warsaw Uprising.
sjam   
23 Feb 2009
History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]

Great novel about Polish Knights 1095 A.D. —1099 A.D. :-)

Angels In The Dust: A Novel Of The First Crusade (1947). Author: Zofia Kossak
sjam   
23 Feb 2009
History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

the NKVD units in the Eastern Poland were almost exclusively jewish.

Where is the documentary evidence of this statement? You have previously mentioned that IPN have such a document which validates your statement, please, what is the title of this document, and page(s) which records 'NKVD units in the Eastern Poland were almost exclusively jewish'?

They had to escape pogroms like in Kielce for example.

And from years just before WWII with the rise of Nazi styled fascist elements in Poland:

Starting in early 1935, boycotts of Jews spread all through the Polish countryside. These were followed by pogroms: window-smashing, the overturning of Jewish market stalls, beatings, arson, and finally murder. The details of these brutalities are repetitive and terrible.

In 1935 pogroms took place at Radomsko in April, at Radosc (near Warsaw) and Grochow in May, at Grodno in May. In December [1935] these isolated occurrences began to harden into a campaign: disturbances in Klwow, Lodz, Katowice, Kielce, and Hrubieszow were followed in January 1936 by attacks on Jews in Cracow and Warsaw, among other places.

On March 9, 1936, a pogrom occurred at Przytyk, where two Jews were killed and many houses burned: Bombs were thrown in those same months in 13 more towns, including Minsk Mazowiecki; there a second pogrom occurred in early June and, after four Jews had been killed, most of the Jewish population left for Warsaw.

During 1936 and early 1937 the pogroms became a daily occurrence in Poland, and clearly indicated increasingly better oganization. In Czestochowa riots started in June 1937 with a fight between two porters; a well-organized boycott movement against the Jews prolonged the unrest there for months. In the course of the Czestochowa pogrom, the Endek paper Ganiec Czestochowski gave lists of streets on which Jews had not as yet been robbed. 75 Jews were wounded in this particular outbreak.

In May 1937 another outbreak occurred at Brest Litovsk, where a number of Jews were killed and some 200 wounded.

Between May 1935 and January 1937, 118 Jews were killed and 1,350 wounded; 137 Jewish stores were destroyed. A total of 348 separate violent mass assaults on Jews were counted during the period, and the compilation was termed both "unofficial" and "incomplete". Another compilation showed that between the end of 1935 and March 1939, 350 Jews had been killed and 500 wounded.

The wave of pogroms did not abate throughout 1937 and 1938. In August 1937 five severe outbreaks occurred in central Poland, and anti-Jewish demonstrations occurred in seven towns, including the capital.

One result of these events was an increased movement of the Jews from smaller places, where they felt themselves exposed, to the larger towns, where they thought they would be safer.

But in early 1938 the riots spread to Warsaw, and from then on attacks on Jews in the larger cities became a normal occurrence. In 1938 and 1939 the anti-Jewish boycott movement became more and more effective. Again, it was mainly the small Jewish communities that were hit, and in this a parallel to the experience in Germany can clearly be discerned. These boycott actions were usually organized by the Endeks, but by early 1939 the government OZN group also supported them.

Question, why did the Jews turn so easily on their former friends, neighbours clients and employees ?

So simply revenge by Polish Jews could have been a strong motivating factor to take into consideration.
sjam   
22 Feb 2009
News / Is Poland Provoking Economic Warfare With Russia? [26]

You don't want to answer directly to my question. You cannot name one creditable source. Of course the fact that we officially know who is behind Russia Today doesn't make this source to be creditable.

I did answer your question. So here is my direct answer again:

... notable examples Russia Today, Al Jazeera and not forgetting my good friends CIA backed Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty ... you know exactly where they are all coming from no hidden agendas they don't pretend to be something they are not.

Whether you consider them creditable or not is entirely your perogative. And no I do not believe (as is my perogative) Global Research is a creditable source of independent news or analysis as they claim for the reasons I have previously given.

this is not material for a soldier.

The only ability a soldier needs is to be able to kill the enemy—as determined by that soldier's government—and Gen. Tommy Franks was dammed good at that!
sjam   
18 Feb 2009
News / Is Poland Provoking Economic Warfare With Russia? [26]

American Jew who was put in by the 'neo-cons' because he could be 'trusted'.

Back on this 'Jew's control the world gibberish ... same old same old.

General Franks happened to be the best US commander of his day and yes he was trusted to do his job and that is what he did.

But you are entitled to your opinion?

I mean research group or even some certain media outlets devoted to politics.

Just a couple (or more) notable examples Russia Today, Al Jazeera and not forgetting my good friends CIA backed Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty ... you know exactly where they are all coming from no hidden agendas they don't pretend to be something they are not. I could go on?

I have nothing more to add.

See I just forgot I wrote this... my views are clear so are yours, now I really have nothing more to add. Over to you ;-)))
sjam   
18 Feb 2009
History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

The best reference would be Poland and the Jews by Stanislaw Krajewski

Many thanks Peter for the reference and for insight regarding politicisation of IPN.

I agree totally IPN does employee some excellent historians. I know two of them; Jędrzej Tucholski who wrote the standard reference works on cichociemni (which my company is translating English for the very first time) and also Mr. Tucholski has been involved closely in recent IPN studies on Katyń; Dr. Rafał Wnuk who has been very helpful to me regarding information related to Polish anti-communist resistance movements and he was responsible for producing the best reference work on the subject: Atlas polskiego podziemia niepodległościowego 1944 - 1956.
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
News / Is Poland Provoking Economic Warfare With Russia? [26]

Who said about credibility?

I did.

Would you rant over and over about credibility or perhaps make some comment on the topic?

With respect I don't consider I am ranting, over and over about credibility. If it's not important to you that is your prerogative; however credibility it is important to me.

A source I would consider credible? Any particular subject?
Here is one example that should suffice which you can either take or leave: American Soldier by General Tommy Frank; his memoir account of as commander of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the early period war on terror in Afghanistan has for me greater credibility than some 'reporters' opinion on same subject.

The question is how would you react if such article would be written by some Brussels propagandist?

The same if I felt the source appeared to lack credibilty, in my view.

Global Research claims it is offers alternative and independent research however this doesn't appear to be the case as the majority of articles seem very much biased pro-Russian propaganda. That is my view and you will have yours. I have nothing more to add.

Canandian Jew named Michel Chussodovsky,

Michel Chossudovsky, he blows away the smokescreen put up by the mainstream media, that 9/11 was an attack on America by "Islamic terrorists". Through meticulous research, he has uncovered a military-intelligence ploy behind the September 11 attacks, and the cover-up and complicity of key members of the Bush Administration.

and the moon landings were a hoax also ;-)
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
News / Is Poland Provoking Economic Warfare With Russia? [26]

There are western journalists in Kremlin payroll.

So are there on Russia Today news channel. But at least there is transparency with Russia Today 'it does what it says on the label'. Not so with the backers of Global Research organisation website. Just because the Global Research website says it is well known (well in Mexico Press circles) doesn't give it credibility?
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
News / Is Poland Provoking Economic Warfare With Russia? [26]

Actually for me its not about personal preferences its about editorial group decision making and the motives of those behind making the editorial decisions that purport to be an independent alternative of trustworthy news rather than just more of the same anti-US (anti-Israel) and anti-EU propaganda.

That no names of the editorial board appear to be present on Global Research organisation website says something about that organisation.
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

sjam:
BTW. I repeat; I don't understand the reference to looking in their pants? This is obviously way too clever for me and over my head. Please explain?

Jews were circumcised, gentiles were not.

Oh I see now...

How telling that you should use that particular metaphor based on something a Nazi would use as proof that a circumscised man was Jewish, if he didn't look Jewish. Still don't understand why I should be looking down another man's pants regardless of whether he is Jewish or gentile.... maybe this is common in your circle but it is not so in mine?

This would be the same NSZ which, amongst other things, murdered Leon Feldhendler, leader of the Sobibor rebellion, for being Jewish?

Or the group of Polish Jews murdered in Prosta Street during the Warsaw Rising 1944 by AK unit 'Hal' commanded by Captain Waclaw Stykowski. These victims, men and women came out of hiding in the former 'little ghetto' area only to be murdered by Stykowski's unit. Despite this atrocity being brought to the attention of Gen. 'Monter' no one was ever brought trial, eyewitnesses were intimidated by Stykowsk's men and AK counterintelligence claimed that Jews had carried out the murders to discredit the AK! Stykowski was awarded the Virtuti Militari for his part in the Rising. Despite the fact that evidence documents have been preserved until today no one was ever brought to trial for this massacre of Polish Jews or others reported as being carried out by Stykowski's unit.

Source:
Secret City: The hidden Jews of Warsaw 1940-1945 by Gunnar. S. Paulson
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
History / Any apologies about Sikorski's 'murder'? [95]

Surely you can not mean that Poles murdered Sikorski?!

I actually don't believe he was murdered—but I most definitely believe it is more likely that some Poles had better reason to want to see Sikorski out of the way than anyone else. The Sikorski conspiracy stuff is mildly entertaining though ;-))
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
History / Any apologies about Sikorski's 'murder'? [95]

I do agree about the sell-out, tho'. I think both UK and US just allowed themselves to be totally shafted by Uncle Joe.

Was this really a sell out by UK and USA?

It should be taken into consideration that the Polish government-in-exile did not really help thier country as well as the could have especially after Sikorski's death. Sikorski was the only person with the gravitas to present Poland's views to the Allies. After Sikorski's death the disunity and infighting between the various political factions within the Polish government-in-exile that Sikorski had tenously held together just made Poland's situation even worse--the other allies had lost faith in Polish government-in-exile's ability to reach a common and united front about anything let alone reaching a post-war accord with the USSR.

However, Sikorski actually published his own proposal for a Polish post-war border settlement with USSR very much along the lines that that the 'Big Three' eventually agreed upon! So had Sikorski lived, post-war Polish borders would closely resemble that of today even without the 'Big Three'. The other allies knew about Sikorki's vision for post-war Poland it was not a secret from them!

Now if there was a reason to get Sikorski out of the picture I personally believe it would have come from right-wing elements in Sikorski government who were totally opposed to any dealings with USSR especially over border issues. Given that Sikorski was thinking of giving up Polish territory in the East in exchange for new ones in the West it is more likely that any threat to his life would have come from these elements rather than from Britain or USSR, in my opinion.

Also, had Sikorski's desire that all of the Polish forces in USSR (released after the amnesty) should fight alongside the Red Army in the liberation of Poland from the eastern front been realised then the political situation on the ground in Poland might have been different than it turned out. However General Anders opposed Sikorski's plans and ignored an order by Sikorski on the limit of Polish forces that would be allowed to leave USSR. Anders was reprimanded for this disobedience and reminded by Sikorski that he was commander-in-chief and not Anders, but the deed was done and we will never know if Sikorski's plan was the better one.
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

So you could draw some conclusions.

I did. But you didn't like the conclusion I reached so you resorted to derision, to which I have responded. Leaving this aside, your assertion that Polish Jews controlled the communist security apparatus (and therefore by implication were responsible for all the tortures of anti-communist restistance fighter) is not borne out by anything you have presented so far.

as they believed them to be virulently anti-semitic

I personally don't believe this is the complete truth,but many Polish Jews did. There were Polish Jews in the AK but most (not all) hid their identity as they were afraid of being victimised (and sometimes murdered) by anti-semitic factions within the in AK. This is a fact! If you at the very least have seen the documentary Polish Jews in the Warsaw Uprising (1944) you will hear from those Polish Jews who participated in the 1944 Rising in the AK. There is enough information 'out there' that supports the quoted statement; that Polish Jews believed the the AK to be virulently anti-semitic.

What formations did the Jews join then? NKVD?

Those few Polish Jews that were able to escape ghettos and deportations into the forest formed their own partisan groups; joined Soviet groups; joined Polish communist groups (to join all those 'eager Polish communist collaborators') -- all well known.

sjam:
... and now they (communists) have all gone

Where have they all gone? Cuba?

Maybe they escaped to the free west for a better life as well once Poland regained its independence from Russia.

Or maybe you are saying Poland isn't a free country (in the western sense) now... and therefore you are still sheltering in the free west from the present communist oppressors of Poland. If so poor thing, to be an exile without a country, you must be wondering if it ever be safe to live there? And poor Poles still having to suffer communist oppression when I thought it was all over? Can Poles not just vote the communists away? Will they never be free? What can the world do to help?

BTW. I repeat; I don't understand the reference to looking in their pants? This is obviously way too clever for me and over my head. Please explain?
sjam   
17 Feb 2009
News / Is Poland Provoking Economic Warfare With Russia? [26]

I am more interested in who actually runs this Global Research organisation?

The majority of articles are anti-USA (plus anti-Israel of course :-) and anti-EU. Articles and books seem very much pro-Russia and its global interersts... not much evidence of balance or independent research claimed by Global Research?

Might have missed the web page which highlights who the editorial board is made up of so one can make a personal judgement about the credibility of those making editorial decisions on the Global Research website and its publishing titles?
sjam   
16 Feb 2009
History / Any apologies about Sikorski's 'murder'? [95]

sjam:
If you have reached the limits of your understanding such is life ;-)

I was surprised and disappointed at these comments, particularly from someone such as yourself. It seems I was mistaken and misunderstood your intent and capacity to engage in discussion and critical analysis.

I can't understand all this talk of Soviets being needed to end WW2

It was you that said you couldn't understand (what appeared to me to be a simple propostion) so I naturally assumed you had reached the limit of your understanding based on what you said, and therefore any further debate on this point on my part would be futile. BTW. I recognise that there are many things outside the limits my understanding and comprehension but my life is still rewarding despite my limitations. So chin up, be proud of what you have accomplished to date in your life and look forward to greater successes in the future on what ever level these successes may present themselves.
sjam   
16 Feb 2009
History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

Given your recent liberty with quotes, you should be more careful. I didn't say that, a historian said it. It was a miracle that all 500 were not Jewish.

The historian didn't embolden the text below you did so I asked what point you were trying to make by this editing?

In our sample below we have documented more than 500 cases of torture.Almost all victims described below were ethnic Poles and Catholics, save for a single Jewish man.

So I repeat:

And your point for emboldening the text was? That as there is only one 'Jewish man' mentioned in this research the perpetrators against these victims must have been Polish Jews and not all those 'eager Polish collaborators'. This must be so as you have stated more than onec that the communist security apparatus was contolled by Jews, not by Poles. Not so given that 67% of MBP were these 'eager Polish collaborators'.

That there was only one Jewish person out of 500 is not actually that surprising or miraculous as many did Polish Jews did not join AK and NSZ etc., as they believed them to be virulently anti-semitic (must have been covered in past threads?) These 'prisoners' were mainly former AK, NSZ, WiN and successor organisations were they not?

I don't understand the reference to looking in their pants? This is obviously way too clever for me and over my head.

And then you portrayed it as a statement that only Jewish Poles were torturers.....

Surely not? What a scurrilous suggestion!

I don't understand why 1jola has such a downer on communists' Polish Jews or otherwise afterall he/she/or it escaped to the free west... and now they (communists) have all gone is free to go back and enjoy the freedom so hard won by his fellow countrymen... what a joker... almost spilt my warm milk laughing so much ;-))
sjam   
16 Feb 2009
History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

[56] This seems to have been the case especially in the countryside but to a lesser extent on the central command level

I could have pasted in the note as you have done but it doesn't support to your assertion that Polish Jews had control of communist security apparatus. Footnote 56 doesn't contradict the author's earlier research statement that:

' they found many eager Polish collaborators. Although no thorough search has been undertaken in the secret police personal files nationwide, the evidence accumulated here suggests that most of the functionaries of the Communist terror apparatus were ethnic Poles of lower class origin.

only to a lesser extent on the central command level?

they found many eager Polish collaborators.

Maybe this is the bit you have difficultly swallowing... my warm milk drink might in fact be of more help to you as I wouldn't like you to choke on the facts!

Almost all victims described below were ethnic Poles and Catholics, save for a single Jewish man.

And your point is? That there as there is only one 'Jewish man' mentioned in this research the perpetrators against these victims must have been Polish Jews and not all those 'eager Polish collaborators'.

You might need more of my warm milk to swallow that.

For those that might be interested in this very well researched and balanced document:
projectinposterum.org/docs/chodakiewicz1.htm - Marek Jan Chodakiewicz: The Dialectics of Pain: The Interrogation Methods of the Communist Secret Police in Poland, 1944-1955.
sjam   
16 Feb 2009
History / Col.Jozef Swiatlo-Secret agent, torturer, CIA-collaborator to be tried? [145]

Marek Jan Chodakiewicz: The Dialectics of Pain: The Interrogation Methods of the Communist Secret Police in Poland, 1944-1955. Glaukopis, vol. 2/3 (2004-2005).

In the case of torture of General Franciszek Skibiński of the Free Polish Armed Forces in the West, the authorities were “unable” to find a suspect, Colonel Władysław Kochan, for several months, even though he resides in a building literarily next door to the court house and his address is listed. Kochan refuses to testify against the main accused in the case, Colonel Henryk O., and, instead, blames the practice of torture on his own Soviet advisor, Colonel Anton Skulbashevskii, who left Poland for the USSR in 1956. See Jan Ordyński, “Naciskał aż przesłuchiwany chciał umżeć,” Rzeczpospolita, 15 October 2003; Jan Ordyński, “Wiedział, że bito więźniów,” Rzeczpospolita, 12 February 2004.

From the same source as the above and 1jola's quote from that same source:

1jola:
Harry, it turns out they are all Jewish.

"In a more complicated case, Poland’s authorities have been unable to prosecute several persons implicated in the judicial murder on trump-up charges of killing Jews, Communists, and Soviet POWs of General August Emil Fieldorf (“Nil”) of the Home Army. The persons involved in the sordid affair include Kazimierz Górski, Alicja Graff, and Witold Gatner, who reside in Poland, and Stefan Michnik and Fajga Mindla Danielak aka Helena Wolińska, who live abroad. A few participants in the murder lived unmolested until their recent deaths in independent Poland after 1989 (Igor Andrejew and Maria Zand-Górowska) or abroad (Beniami n Wajsblech, Emil Mertz, and Gustaw Auscaler).[Israel]

We can read:

As for the perpetrators, although the Soviets led the way,55 they found
many eager Polish collaborators. Although no thorough search has been
undertaken in the secret police personal files nationwide, the evidence
accumulated here suggests that most of the functionaries of the Communist
terror apparatus were ethnic Poles of lower class origin. The witnesses
mention but a few Jewish Communist perpetrators.

Perhaps you would like to rethink your argument.

No thinking required—seems it's all in 1jola's selective copy and pasting :-)

Now where's that warm milk and biscuits... :-)))
sjam   
16 Feb 2009
History / UPA - Ukrainian Insurgent Army. How they killed poles in Volhynia (1943). [139]

Radio Free Europe

According to Poland's National Remembrance Institute, in 1943 the UPA murdered some 60,000 civilian Poles in Volhynia, in anticipation of an independent Ukrainian state after the war and a plebiscite on which country, Poland or Ukraine, should possess the disputed area. The Polish AK subsequently resorted to retaliatory actions. According to Ukrainian estimates, the AK may have killed in retaliation as many as 20,000 Ukrainians in Volhynia.

The postwar period only added to the Polish-Ukrainian record of mutual wrongs and prejudices. In 1947, the Polish communist government forcibly resettled some 140,000 Ukrainians from their native areas in southeastern Poland to Poland's newly acquired northern and western territories. The official excuse for that mass expulsion was the desire to undercut the social base of support for the UPA in the area.

In March 1945, a detachment of Polish anti-Nazi guerrillas from the Home Army (AK) subordinated to the Polish emigre government in London shot to death hundreds of Ukrainian inhabitants of Pawlokoma. The Ukrainians were herded in a local Greek Catholic church, interrogated and likely tortured, and then taken to a local cemetery where they were executed.

This was a debased and barbaric period of human history many atrocities were committed on all sides and all is inexcusable.