UPA barbarian murders on Polish and Jewish neighbors during WW2

what to tell you people. Parliament of future Slavic union would be quite dangerous place

- I spend more time in Poland than in the USA each year, quite frankly I believe our relations with numerous countries across should be improved before ukraine, thanks to the maniacal potato head again those ties have been either destroyed or significantly weakened. Our politicians on numerous occasions in ukraine condemned the Wisla act, which in my opinion was a only a scaled and civilized response to what your people did. Up to this point Poland has not seen an official act of compassion and remembrance for this ethnic cleansing from ukraine side. Instead they have some bogus demands.... like creating ukrainian combatant circles in Przemysl. For now, our relations should be no more important than with a Republic of Congo, maybe when you outgrow to finally step up apologize and offer how to help survivors we shall talk about the future.

this is something I would disagree with and I still think that it is about timing, since nobody is denying anything.

Poland has never had any major issues with the Republic of Kongo, while there were centuries of trouble between Poles and Ukrainians. They are our backyard and we are theirs. That's when you start mowing the grass first, before moving on to remote, and exotic locations of no significance to you. Poland's relations with Ukraine are among the most important in Poland's foreign policies.

I hope you won't run for any public office putting you in a position to decide Poland's foreign policies.

The plan's are underway.

[quote]Another former Soviet republic, Ukraine, announced plans in July to erect a statue in Lutsk, western Ukraine, honor of Stepan Bandera, a leader of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) that fought against the Soviets during WWII.

mnweekly.ru/news/20081121/55357975.html

Well if Germany followed their example, they might have erected statue for Herr Hitler.

Did you read the article? Russia cannot point the finger quite yet. We also need an "Anti Stalin" resolution.

Jewish is you,Poles are slavic.
Also there are no Jews in Poland anymore.(if you have noticed).

True.

It's informless on who banderovci were.


I'm not Russia. I can. Besides there're the truth or a lie regardless of who say it.

Nov 23, 08, 07:48 #9

HatefulBunch397:

hatred and bigotry in Europe

Many of your cmments here have been about "bigotry in Europe", yet you haven't checked out where many of the posters you are talking about are from.

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Nov 23, 08, 07:59 #10

osiol:

Many of your cmments here have been about "bigotry in Europe", yet you haven't checked out where many of the posters you are talking about are from.

I don't deny there are bigots in the US and all over the world. Europe has a more extreme form of it, these posts reflect that. You draw other extreme bigots from other parts of the world to this forum because of your past and current attitudes. Poland, as a nation, has such a bad reputation internationally and it's because of the attitude reflected here. Apparantly, Poland is well known for it, as a nation and it's disgusting.

You look sociopathic in the eyes of the world and it's because of your attitude toward those that suffered during WWII who happened to be Polish.

When Poland has a national election and in the papers all the candidates are discussing whether or not they have Jewish blood and declaring they do not, that attitude is petty and bigoted because most Poles are mixed race, slavic and jewish.

It's embarassing because we who live in the US get stereotyped as being like the bigoted poles in Europe who are so bigoted they cannot possibly face the fact they are mixed race, the candidates in that election proves it. It's ridiculous.

because most Poles are mixed race, slavic and jewish.

Not true.How many Poles do you know with Jewish roots?
I know plenty of Polish Jews though.................There is a difference.

Poland, as a nation, has such a bad reputation internationally

Not true.Where have you heard this?

I don't deny there are bigots in the US and all over the world. Europe has a more extreme form of it, these posts reflect that.

Not true.Bigots in the US are MUCH WORSE than in Europe!!!!

How many more lies do you have?

Back these up with facts or back off!!

-" Poland is being mixed race of slavic and jewish "- has to be the most idiotic statement I have ever heard, but again cretins are an overwhelming majority of every society...

- As for Polish reputation... If you make such statement as described above, better start worrying about your own reputation.

- Guys I merely wanted to highlight the fact that such a cruelty acts existed because up to this point even Polish don’t know much about it... And even more sadly that many of those murderers are still alive!

Today’s Polish government is blinded by US interests towards the ukraine, forgetting its own citizens.
These victims regardless if Jewish or Polish (the former ones were the citizens of Poland...) have to be remembered!

Many have been traced to Canada living well but I must think the ghosts of actions in the past must add a negitive within their hearts.


So you feel this has been forgotten? If this were the case we would not seach for families and just pretend this history never happened. There will never be a perfect time when looking at this part of history but it can bring a renewed friendship in the end if done with everyones feelings in mind.


lemko.org/roots.html

Many poles are mixed with other races, including slaves. A lot of you, not all, but many, are ethnically mixed. I know it, Europe knows it, The world knows it. That's life. Deal with it :D Many of you are part jewish too :)

Slave is not a race, it's some one whose labour is systematically expoloited. Slav is a not a race too.

Because one we find on PF with Jewish ancestry recently moved to England, and the chap I work with who looks like Woody Allen also lives in England. They were the last two if they counted at all.

Slav is an ethnicity. Poles are a grand mixture of many ethnicities, so are Germans, Italians, Czechs, Romanians, Greeks, Austrians, etc etc. All you Euros are pretty much a mixed lot with languages dividing you.

Were the Slavs slaves or the slaves Slavs? LOL

I still have a hard time reconciling the Soviet/Ukranian conspiracy to deport innocent Poles to Siberia in 1939-1940. And I am half Polish and half Ukranian. I feel a deep need to find my father's home in Gaje, now Haje, I believe, to look those in the eye (or their descendents) who stole my inheritance, my family. I will never be able to reconcile the injustice without this event. I hope I can do this one day soon.

Judka

How Ukrainians could send your family to Siberia, Judka? Wake up from your hatred.

By helping the NKVD.

west Ukrainians were rather supporting Nazi Germany.

After the war they fought against Red Army what haven't stoped them from confiscation of Polish properties in Lwów (Poles in Lwów were ethnic Poles 60%)


That is why Polish communists were right.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wisła

I don't think so, but that is a different cattle of fish, isn't it;)?

I was being funny and was referring to me not posting on PF, but thanks for the link. I know the history from the primary sources.

Karol was not killed by UPA BTW - check your sources and stay away from Wiki.

I find it interesting!
Sadly anything between Poland and Russia is some kind of a blind spot for me (and most Germans I would gather) so I'm really learning stuff!

....well...there are the Baltic Countries too...we know that because there once was a Eurovision Song contest in that corner...I think...

Sadly anything between Poland and Russia is some kind of a blind spot for me (and most Germans I would gather) so I'm really learning stuff! - said by Bratwurststein boy.

Germans know more about "blind spot" than your retarded brain will ever learn. I met many Germans in my beloved Lviv and they happened to know a lot of our history and culture. One Polish guy, I was working with, kept on repeating " ruscy, ruscy". I talked to him about history, our culture, similarities and differences. And still after hours of talks and discussions he said: "Still ruscy, because this is how I leant in school". So, this poor guy with mentality of a 15 year old boy could not understand a thing (he, like many, stopped his development in high school). My parrot speaks 15 words in 3 languages - it took him less time, Brustbrat boy. So, put that "superiority" of yours in a place where there resides your brain - your ass.

You could use the "quote"-function of this board too, you know?


....don't think so....


...don't think so...


Less time than what?
*pictures Natty sitting all day in front of his pet talking to it*

Do we have an ukrainian supremacist here??? The "Über Natty"?

The rest: blahblahblah

Think whatever you please. Less time to learn for a parrot than for a mentioned above guy.

It is good direction. Knock this doors but it is going to be very hard to find support there. Germans are not going to risk good relationshp with Russians for Ukrainians (even they like Uks much more than Russians) :)

I don't need support and knock on somebody's door. I am just replying to Brust's question. Germans happen to know more than closer neighbors - that's all. For Bratwurst, it will remain "blind spot" till he is in his grave. That's life.

Be so kind to answer...what makes you say that except for your will to see things that way?