Of course not. What I mean is just whatever language Natty speaks he anyway speaks Banderovian, because at every pore he's a hatemonger and troll who (I'm really sorry for that) I can stand neither in Russia nor anywhere else.
I don't see it that way at all. Where did he say that. I just think that he is sensitive to being criticized because he comes from Lviv. There are thousands of people like him in Canada, and he tried to defend the good name of many people like him. My family member was in UPA. Do I have to be judged by that? Another one was in SS Galicia, so I have to be judged by that too. I have never met them, but I wish I could speak to them and find out their side of the story. My parents were moved form Ukrainian villages in 1947 to Poland having 2 hours to pack, not knowing where they were going. My grandfather was sent to Syberia, because Russians took all the men from the village - for nothing, just because they were Ukainian men and were probably sent due to the fact that every man had to help UPA. Which was not the case. He survived but ......he came back the half man he was after 7 years. Most didn't make it. Does the family history make me a hate monger???? Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't but I would take Nathan's word over yours because we are sharing similar history.
Imagine for a sec (I know that's impossible) that you're Russian and read his posts in other threads from this pespective. You're sure now that it's me who has wax in ears. You're naive then (at best).
But I am not Russian, however I can understand where he is coming from for reasons mentioned above.
With such a poor skills in behaviour psychology anybody could be an ass.
I am an ass then.
I'm open, I'm friendly, I'm honest... and I'm honest not only judging my country and my land but also judging any other people.
We all have those skills but sometimes emotions take over and when it comes to Ukraine I will always associate myself with it. I am able to see what you are saying, but sometimes all we have is emotions. Until they are dealt with, thinking is not going to change on my part. Therefore, I like to be associated with Ukraine not only in connection to UPA but also in connection with the good characteristics of Ukraine. I am tired of being viewed as an UPA associate. I understand why UPA did, what they did. End of story. What about the 5 million Ukrainians who were starved to death????? One can really develop a paranoia while being treated like that. Don't you think? So much for behavioural psychology.
He is just being Ukrainian, who is tired of being labeled. So am I. I know it is not coming directly from you, but over the years I have heard how bad Ukrainians are from Poles, Russians and Jews. I have heard how cruel Ukrainians are. I haven't heard anything positive. By default most nations have both: the positive and negative. Only lately the image of the Ukrainian in Poland has changed due to orange revolution. I don't think that anybody can relate unless they are Ukrainians.
Proof of what you could see in his posts I wonder?
I think he is being patriotic. I understand where he is coming from and I don't think you can relate to it, because your history is different.
What does it have to do with what I wrote? It seems like you want me to behave Constantine-like. Ok. Only for you. "Ukraine is Russian lands, we'll get them soon leveling with our tanks". Did I look natural enough?
I am not sure. I though you were like Kostia, but I am glad that you are not. The truth is that Russia has many interests in the Ukraine and is having a hard time letting it go.
P.S. Sorry gotta go further improve myself. I study languages. Btw do you speak Ukranian?
LOL. I speak Ukrainian but by your standards it might be Banderovian;). I speak a mix of my parent's dialect mixed with the Canadian Ukrainian. I have never gone to school since I was educated in Poland and now I am finishing off my education in English.
I had never had a problem communicating with Ukrainians from different parts of the world. Language has never been a problem.
PS. I think that Nathan can fight his own battles though. I have not spoken on his behalf, only mine own.MODs- don't put it in a Random Thread - it is mostly on topic. Thank you;)