Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler?

You mean things could have been worse than they were? I don't believe it!

Well I think you mean he started the machine? It was German soldiers wich conquered europe in all kinda uniforms+ German generals wich were more experienced then in WW1 after the Polish campaign+ it was definatly the German discipline that made it all going or it would been more revolts or partisant activity? Or even demonstrations :O (Any discipline can't be working without a leader that's whats it all about...)

Please, your comment is really a BIG lack of KNOWLEDGE! Hitler made it all well in propaganda but the industry were going up because of some industrial persons, the military was commanded by German generals until 1941! Hitler did only 1 thing he made it all up and told people about it! He was allways sitting in his bunker/hq or driving around never shooting, commanding (Direct like a sergeant or something he just said traitor and a guy excecuted without Hitlers direct permission). He was a wiiiierd person yeppz, in person he didn't do anythign wrong except of "tricking" the German people to think they were the super race! (Teutons were sooo much better). His ideals were dreadfull but in fact just a little guy roaring about demonical things

For me in person a commander of Auschwitz were more dreadfull

I think he made just a joke....:)
Hitler was only a corporal after all and even as he had big plans for sure he could barely read a map!
The allies didn't said for nothing that he was their biggest help...the german forces didn't conquer most of Europe because of him but rather inspite of him!

At least very close to his opinion (Europe at war 1939 - 1945)

He stole my line! :)

MAJOR mistake if Arabs ever decided to nuke the US, considering we are a superpower with enough atom and hydrogen bombs to detonate Jupiter, we would bomb the shit out of them in return.

The Arabs being who exactly? Saudi Arabia, don't make me laugh. Bum buddies with the US.

You'd have to ask Sokrates.

Maybe he's unaware just how much sway they have in the Arab world. The UAE, Qatar, Yemen, even Libya now are not hostile (tho making noises again).

Oh, Egypt, I get it, LOL

Hopefully not Egypt with all those pretty pyramids.

Don't worry, I've checked Obama's diary. He was invited to bed with Hosni Mubarak and accepted ;)

Mubarak....methinks me heard of that on Teletubbies...could have been another word that sounded like Mubarak..not sure.

More or less.


Not really no, they were just as experienced, they approached the problem from a
different angle though.


However it did not work to such extent under any other leader:)


Yes? Thanks for enlightening me, lets have a look at the rest of your knowledgeable post:)


He made what up? The fall of France which was partly his doing? The supplying of Demyansk pocket by air? Or maybe the creation of Gustav line. Or maybe the aproval of blitzkrieg over all other plans?

Hitler was no Napoleon but he knew his stuff allright.


Actually no, Teutons were widely regarded as the medieval equivalent of Nazi by their contemporaries, given that they were excessively cruel even by medieval standards they're hardy better.


Without him the german forces would have go into Poland without significant armour (he was the one who gave go ahead to mass tank production) and attacked France the same way they did in WW1, without him there would be no attack on Russia which would attack itself, without Hitler Germany would be fucked every turn of the way from 1939 to 1942.

...and that would have been a bad thing in what way?


...now that is an interesting analysis of german history!

(Apropos Panzer...it was Guderian with his studies who actually advised the use of tanks and who developed the tactics...he was the one who "sold" them to Hitler)


Well, that's proofed to be a two bladed sword later too!
Without that success maybe Stalingrad wouldn't had been as costly as it later became..

Pretty pyramids, Teletubbies and Hitler history… Isn’t HB adorable? :)

Because of Hitler Germany lost, was divided and had to endure the Marshall Plan. :)

No...I don't have much patience for people who lay all blame on Hitler alone.

He's just one cog in the machine, but a defective cog nonetheless.

Ja okay...a huge cog! :)

You talking about Adolf again, aren't you?
It's not healthy.
Come on boy, find another hobby.
I can give you a few ideas...

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Pirate karaoke! Arrrr... :D

In a way that all of us would be post-communist states including France, Spain and UK and Europe would be in a state of collapse?


Apropos napoleonic lancer units it was Murat who actually advised Napoleon to armed his light cav with lances which made them a dominating force on the battlefield, a good leader is good because of his ability to take advice.


That was an emotional mistake rather than logical one, Hitler was far from perfect commander but his failure is more on account of his luck running out than anything else.


I dont blame Hitler for WW2, Germans followed him all happy and chummy, i however ascribe German success to him, of course there were many peopleworking for it but ultimately he was the one who had the vision and made it happen.

Ask your polish people, they are obsessed with him, not me...:)
Just look around this board, Adolf pops up in every second topic somehow...(and that surely not because of the lone German here)


Well he didn't...

Why would this qualify as something 'great?' The potential of tanks was already promoted in England by Fuller and Hart. And this idea was then adopted to some extent by German high command. The fact Hitler gave this the go-ahead, did not make him a very intelligent man. He simply agreed to proposals sent forth by his military commanders.

As we will see, most countries had a sizeable portion of tanks in 1939. France actually had more, and better tanks than the Nazis, but simply did not know how to use them... they emphasized dispersing their tanks throughout their ranks, rather than concentrating them.


No... not really. He made some poor decisions, based on emotion, rather than common-sense. You are an idiot for giving him this God-like/ invincible aura.

In fact, Czech Republic had almost equal amount of tanks to Germans in 1938. If they were supported then by the West (at least by words and not betrayed), Germans would have never annexed Sudeten and after that other territories.

Well, the reason for the lack of interest in supporting the Czechs were also that they never made their promise true to hold a plebiscite with their german minority but opressed them. They discriminated against them, closed their schools, killed protestors...it was quite ugly.

Lot's of Westerners weren't ready to support the Czechs against the understandable fight of the Sudeten Germans, so Hitler after he took the Sudeten back took some more and that was that...

Roman Dmowski- Polish Adolf Hitler?

Every country have an extremist politicians.
Not every country supports them and gave them a power to rule.
That's my opinion.

Dmowski was not entirely at the extreme, however. I find myself agreeing with his ideas, more and more, as I read more about him. He was very intelligent, and seriously cared for the welfare of Poland, more than anything, even his own glory. This is a trait found very rarely in politicians today, and even then.

Dmowski was confirmed to be Polish national hero by Polish parliament, allpolitical parties backed such resolution. details of voting
(311 in favour, 35 against, 54 abstain )
orka.sejm.gov.pl/SQL.nsf/glosowania?OpenAgent&3&41&61

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