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The Poms who stood by the Poles in WW2


Ogorki - | 114  
27 Nov 2009 /  #91
Gee, thanks, now I feel much better that England gets some Poles graditude for the 1,000s of Brits that died in WWII...You are funny!

You are the funny one. England did not go to war for Poland - it went to war becuase Poland was the last straw. England went to war becuase she knew Hitler had to be stopped. If she went to war for Poland then why didn't she fight the Germans on the western front? England and the allies should have gone to war over the Czech invasion. The Czechs hate the west the most. England had to fight. If she just sat back and waited for Hitler to take over all of Europe England would have eventually been absorbed by Hitler and you would now be a German ass *****. Poles and the brits should be greatful to the Yanks for saving Europe - for the second time. I won't even bother mentioning the French. SO DON'T BLAME THE POLES --- YOU ASS HOLE
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #92
Nicely said, Ogórki. It was the Americans that really bailed us out and Europe should never forget it!! England fighting for Poland is absurd!
Mr Grunwald 31 | 2,079  
27 Nov 2009 /  #93
England fighting for Poland is absurd!

Later it allmost did look like that until Churchill noticed he had to prioritize his country ;)
Wroclaw Boy  
27 Nov 2009 /  #94
England did not go to war for Poland - it went to war becuase Poland was the last straw

Correct

England went to war becuase she knew Hitler had to be stopped. If she went to war for Poland then why didn't she fight the Germans on the western front?

It was a resources issue

If she just sat back and waited for Hitler to take over all of Europe England would have eventually been absorbed by Hitler

Hitler did basically take over all of europe what are you talikng about?

Poles and the brits should be greatful to the Yanks for saving Europe - for the second time.

Were gratefull for the yanks help but lets not forget Hitler had already been defeated by the Red Army prior to their invasion.
TheOther 5 | 3,691  
27 Nov 2009 /  #95
you would now be a German ass *****.

What's the difference between a German and a British/ Polish a**hole?

It was the Americans that really bailed us out

No, it was actually the Red Army which defeated the Germans. Without their sacrifice there wouldn't have been a D-Day. At least not in 1944.
Harry  
27 Nov 2009 /  #96
If she went to war for Poland then why didn't she fight the Germans on the western front?

With what and from where? Two questions that we never hear Poles answer when it comes to Britain in September 1939.

The Czechs hate the west the most. England had to fight.

Funny you should say that: I have never ever even once heard a Czech whining about western betrayal. But I hear it all the time from the Poles. And remind me: how many times in the last 61 years has Czechoslovakia been invaded by Poland?

If she just sat back and waited for Hitler to take over all of Europe England would have eventually been absorbed by Hitler and you would now be a German ass *****.

The Battle of Britain had been won by the time the Yanks finally got dragged into the war. Can you remind me of the date on which the USA declared war on Nazi Germany?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #97
The Red Army, yes, but they were enemies so that can only be by default. America tipped the balance in a big way and we'd've been lost without them.
TheOther 5 | 3,691  
27 Nov 2009 /  #98
but they were enemies

They weren't considered the enemy as long as they provided the cannon fodder to fight the Germans. The US were very good in financing this fight and providing equipment, but that was pretty much it for quite some time.

we'd've been lost without them

The Soviets would have overrun Europe without the American involvement, I agree.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #99
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Europe still works along those lines to some extent.
TheOther 5 | 3,691  
27 Nov 2009 /  #100
The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Sure. That's why the Americans hooked up with the Taliban to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, or why they cooperated with Saddam.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #101
Yeah, the American govt has got the art of divide+conquer down to a tee. There are plenty old newspaper clippings about the bravery of the Poles in WWII.
scrappleton - | 829  
27 Nov 2009 /  #102
Can you remind me of the date on which the USA declared war on Nazi Germany?

Somebody needs to remind you that Nazi Germany declared war on the US.. not the other way around. I've said this once I've said this 1200 times. Hitler was Europe's and Russia's problem. Not the Yankee. The Yankee was not in direct danger from Hitler. How often do I hear some dippy European shrieking at the top of their lungs, "Well the US was late, well the US didn't do enough.. bla blah.." YOU'RE LUCKY THE US ENTERED THE DAMN THING TO BEGIN WITH! Roosevelt had to fight the Republicans tooth and nail just to get Lend Lease off the ground. For Chrissakes, you let Hitler come to power in the 1st place!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #103
It suited Roosevelt to enter the war though, more money to those arms firms and was gonna lead to the US asserting themselves as the global superpower.
scrappleton - | 829  
27 Nov 2009 /  #104
Well who's fault is that?? Europeans try to commit suicide <<AGAIN>> and yes somebody took advantage of it. However , it was not an easy sell to the American public by any stretch of the imagination. Besides we were asked for help, not the other way around.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #105
It's obvious where the principal fault lies, with the cowardice of the French throughout the 1930's. For America, it was opportunity knocks and they came out of it pretty well. America did what many great predators do, wait for a timely movement to make their move.

Oh, asides from the obvious madness of Hitler and Stalin of course.
scrappleton - | 829  
27 Nov 2009 /  #106
America did what many great predators do, wait for a timely movement to make their move.

Bullsh.t.. typical sensationlism from Lord Peanus. Predators don't loan money to wrecked economys.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
27 Nov 2009 /  #107
Hitler was not in full flight when America entered the war. They came in after substantial weakening of their resolve. Payments bring debts with them and debts take different forms ;)
scrappleton - | 829  
28 Nov 2009 /  #108
They came in after substantial weakening of their resolve.

Their resolve to shell the UK wasn't that much diminished.

Payments bring debts with them and debts take different forms ;)

Per your own admission, ecomomics is not your strong suit. Internet "Theories" yes, that is where you shine.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2009 /  #109
Well, as they discovered, our RAF had a good deal of bite. I don't think they were too glad to see Spitfires in front of them.

Indebtedness is a known concept in many cultures and they could appear like the knight in shining armour, coming to save the day. Go and study o-kari and how it works and you'll see what I mean.
scrappleton - | 829  
28 Nov 2009 /  #110
Well, as they discovered, our RAF had a good deal of bite.

Churchill put a good bite on our wallets. Drunk old blueblood should have used his own money.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2009 /  #111
On that point you'll hear no disagreement from me. Churchill was a fat oaf of a man, too wrapped up in his own glory. OK, Chamberlain blundered before him with his 'peace in our time' crap but Churchill had great help from the Scots and Poles. Cities like Coventry were blazed and razed.

I'm not so much into the financial side of it ask to specifics.
TheOther 5 | 3,691  
28 Nov 2009 /  #112
Churchill was a fat oaf of a man, too wrapped up in his own glory

Churchill was a fu**ing war criminal who should've been executed for Gallipoli during WW1.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2009 /  #113
A long line of them it would appear. Britain is a traiterous country, full of people who would sell off their grannies for a bit of glory or cash.

It's a sad story all around the world.
scrappleton - | 829  
28 Nov 2009 /  #114
Churchill was a fu**ing war criminal who should've been executed for Gallipoli during WW1.

Hmm damn good movie that one. Okay why do you say that about fat boy?
TheOther 5 | 3,691  
28 Nov 2009 /  #115
It's a sad story all around the world.

Very true, and it's repeated over and over and over again.

Okay why do you say that about fat boy?

Because I'm Australian...

historylearningsite.co.uk/gallipoli.htm
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2009 /  #116
Because he was, pure and simple. Without Scotland and Poland (and the US, of course), that fat buffoon would have been stuck. Many of his best pilots were from those 2 countries.
scrappleton - | 829  
28 Nov 2009 /  #117
Without Scotland and Poland (and the US, of course), that fat buffoon would have been stuck. Many of his best pilots were from those 2 countries

I read recently that a lot of RAF aces were actually Canadian.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2009 /  #118
That may have been the case, Scrappy. It gets complicated when you look deeply at roots but that just broadens the net wider. Yet one more nationality that helped out but he lapped up the accolades.
scrappleton - | 829  
28 Nov 2009 /  #119
Yet one more nationality that helped out but he lapped up the accolades.

Well sure, he was a british blueblood, born priviledged into that ridiculous stratified society of yours. You want to fix things (after immigration of course) get rid of that peerage bullsh.t once and for all. It's stupid and anachronistic beyond belief.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
28 Nov 2009 /  #120
I agree. I dissed it just the other day. You know what those bloodlines lead to? Stuff like Bilderbergers who think they are a cut above. Those that don't give a fu&k for democratic process.

Let's just face it, Scrappy, the UK and US are pathetic warmongers. Did you see what BB posted about blue-on-blue? Staggering!! 70,000 French civilians got nobbled from friendly fire apparently.

WWII was an unmitigated disaster. You can bet certain elements in Scotland were proud that the Poles fought alongside them and also cracked the Enigma codes.

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