Poland-Russia: never-ending story?

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It wasn't colonisation, it was an agreement signet by Gergian tsar to protect his subjects from Turkish threat. And as I previously said, Georgian nation increased during Russian government from 60 thousends to 3 millions souls. So, I think it is not bad result of our ruling. But now, when Georgian are left on their own, the civil war is highly possible; by mean of it they will decreese their population to the same 50-60 thousands.

It will explain nothing,one half is a deeply catholic country,the other half is divided 50/50.


Close,but only a mini cigar for now. No,what it is saying that the leaders of those countries have a responsibility to aknowladge the past mistakes and set about changes for the future to insure they are never repeated.


you all know fek all about Africa,Im afraid. Like many countries the deeply religious are the womenfolk,where as the men folk,especialy in countries where multipull wives were/are the norm are somewhat backwards and chauvanistic and not all that religious.If they want to screw a women they do and so the little lady running beads through her fingers is not being all that well protected is she,especially with mixed messages from so called enlightened folks.( of course this is not a blanket statement on Africa,just something others dont seem to factor in here.)


Because by the time the saxe coburg gothas were on the throne slaverl had been abolished by britain. We realised that buying one lot of black guys from another lot of black guys was moraly wrong. Where as there are still a group of blokes out there who have never had sex let alone a relationship with a woman who think they have some insight and say into how millions should live their lives.


So russia has never tried to colonise ,overrun another soverign nation,Har dee har har.
What do you call the "Great Game" in russia,thats our name for the 19th century race between Britain and Russia for control of first Afganistan then the whole of the sub continent? (hint,neither britain nor russia have a good record of not getting our a rses kicked in kabul)

Oh, as all women you preffer to mingle your own attitude with real facts, sorry.
I agree with you, that the fact of mass killings is very sad, but if you would put aside this fact you could see the reasons and aims of this purges or massacres.

Moreover, as the same Stalin have said, "death of one man is tragedy, of millions is only statistic".
Fore example, it is very doubtfyly that you or me could kill even one humane creature, but he signed sentences on thousands...only this fact can discribe all.

Naturaly he wasnt a killer, he had an pure aims, to renew Russia and to make it grate than it was.

crikey,who let the Politruk out of the cryogenic chamber.
Da,Ja Ja Stalina,defender of soviet babies and big man of purely defensive peoples nkvd murder squads. anyone thinks differently,holiday in the yellow house followed by a geologic survey of the uranium mines,urrah!

Oh boy, you are too young to know that the past as in the human life or life of the states, always directs the future. Just this amazing phenomenon may deserve the definition of FATALISM.


Thank you for definition, but I know what The Great Game was and what it is.
But in contrast to GB, Russia never had any colonies, may be exept Alaska (which really de jure was never Russian, but private posession of Russian-American trade company).

So, first of all Russia never took a part in any invasions in Afganistan during the times of RU Emp., it was only english failures in this period.

Thus, unlike England, Russian aims were not to take a posession of some territories in Afhanistan or Iran but to gain only some sphers of influence to protect our Central Asian vassal posetions of Bukhara and Samarkand.


BANG-BANG.....

What a joke! Communism was a fiction and Polish people needed to take care about themselves to live on at least average standard. Perhaps a lot of citizens of western welfare states have goverment instead of brain?

can't speak for others, but are you really saying I am blinded by religion?
Can you quote me on that?

I also prefer father Tischners approach to faith, which consists more on dialog rather than on telling you what to do. But I fail to see what it's got to do with crusades and Spanish inquisition.


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but there were no longer any crusades and spanish inquisition at the time JPII became pope. So I will repeat my question then, why is it OK to blame today’s church for crusades and Spanish inquisition but it’s a serious faux pas to blame the Windsor’s for the slave trade, since both had nothing to do with those awful crimes?


That's a double-edged sword your waving there Bubba. In the same way I could ask you to learn to think for yourself rather than repeat what your country men say.


Of course I agree. I didn’t want it to sound as if only black people from Africa don’t like to use condoms.

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Ok gaspadin kostya, how do you have an Empire without any colonies?


Oh ,right,vassel posestions,not colonies,right,I see the HUGER difference there ,ja panjemajo,harasho.


because doctrines change, If the church has apologised for its past genocides in south and central america ,and abandonment of its catholic brothers at the time of jpIIs rule in the 80s in salvador etc,fine,no critisism should be directed at it,if it hasnt apologised for its crimes as recently as the 80s where fighting communism was seen as more important than stopping peoples being murdered by fascists in central america then,crack on,treat it with the contempt all institutions that seek to control peoples thoughts and actions deserve.

bubbawoo im not gonna even respond to your comment. you are unable to comprehend the point im trying to get across, its kind of sad.

er... ok

What were then Baltics,Moldova,Kazakstan,Uzbekistan,Turkmenistan,Georgia,Azerbaitzan, Mongolia?The Russians not only had colonies but they sent there settlers to live and mix with the natives in order to create permanent presence.

hey,I dint write that!!!!!!!!!!! A great big chocolate chip cookie if anyone can see where Im have meant to have written what Darius has just attributed to me.

They werent colonies, they were just suburbs of the empire... Pretty much like Wales and Ireland in the UK... Except for there were lots of small rulers there, and some of them were for and some were against joining Russia so on big picture those who were against made it look as if they were enslaved, when in fact local tsars who were loyal to Russia continued to rule. Pretty much like Kadyron in todays Chechnya.

Ok, think that we need some sort of precise definition of what we name "colony"
I suppose that it is a case whensome terrytory is directly governed by the another nation, as for example Belgian Congo (governed by the king Leopold himself) or Brazil (before proclamation an independent empire). Yes, we ruined the legislative government of Afganistan in 1979, but it wasn't during RuEmp as you can see. Moreover, it was a communist government which lost the trust from the Soviet Union side for their silent games with our enemy China.

We call "Great Game" the same historic event as you, the political game over protection of British India from one side and protection of Russian Central Asia from another. This event includes the rivalry over Afganistan as well as over Iran. The rivalry over Iran ended in 1914, as I remember with dividing whole territory on two zones of influene, Russian-Nord and British-South. In this aspect we have some complaints to British government in 19 cent. Because thanks to it's insinuated instigations, the Iranian fanatics assaulted on Russian embassy. As a result of this incident, our great poet Griboedov was torn to pieces.


As I wrote that you think about Empire in the sense of Marine-Colonial Empires which existed only to gain profits for European countries from another territories and people.

Thats why all such perverted conglomeration were ruined without any trace. I suppose that term"Empire" has methaphysical sense of protection of territory from barbarians and develope some civilization. In this sense, the idea of Roman Empire still extant in various forms till our times. And in contrast of British Empire, we developed our state in precise harmony with the idea of Pax Romana. I think very few may say that Russian Empire aquaired all its provinses to gain their goods and treasures, quite contrary, all our aquisitions were totally unprofitable for center.

blah blah blah........
Say what you will,but one countries armed forces in another and puppet govts etc are just colonies Sorry,I keep forgeting Mother Russia can do no wrong,never has,never will,Mother Russia is ALWAYS the victim of evil outside forces.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Just because you were rubish at empire building doesnt mean you didnt try!And besides,just when has Russia done anything profitable? I mean anything legitimate?

its the facts the brought forth my attitude.. sorry, I have better definitions of great
men, and he isnt included in any of it.

Neither country had any reasons to declare war on Poland..

its like when a very large person, decides to kick someone's arse, but he looks like
a fool because everyone knows the power behind larger people. but the advantage
of the smaller guy could be many things,, smart, cunning, and swift . Ability to fight
back, which I think was unexpected. but non the less they fought.. and they fought
hard and great!!

Sure! Or did you have another point of view? Rusia as white as a snow

Russia dumb as a HOE
Dont know any good contributions coming from Russia

Obviously the concept of manipulating people is not foreign to churches hierarchy, never was and unfortunately never will be, but the situation is the same with British Government for example. So, if you will blame today’s church for the things that happened few centuries ago don’t be surprised if someone will blame your current government for the slave trade. Simple.

Oh boy, never mind, You are from USA and in such way your lack of knowlage may be excused

I beg to differ. What do you call what they did in eastern Poland . Do you have a certian million before you call it an invasion? Stalin was not happy to just kill his own, and the fact is he did, no he had to kill or slave millions of Polish. Russia white as snow, my a*s.

yep . I can tell you have some polish blood in ya.


constatinek is in deep denial. or had some really bad schooling.

Yeah Russia never invaded.
Russia is a shinning example to the world.
Its the perfect global citizen.
Oh yeah almost forgot the world is flat.

A few minutes ago, I was having problems with my computer's sound-card, the mixing desk and amplifier. It kept making a feedback loop. I adjested one of the settings and there was no sound at at. It kept going from one to the other and I was beginning to think something was broken - maybe some electronic component had blown up.

My flatmate suggested fixing it 'The Russian Way'. I'm not sure what he meant by this, but he left the room. I reckon he's either gone to get a hammer or he's organising my equipment a one-way trip to Siberia.

Thankfully I got it working again. The British Way. Welcome to British Week.

LOL Where is he, he better run. Holly molly, that was messed up. Shoot Stalin thought nothing of killing his own family.

- And now the Germans are getting in cahouts with the Russians.... Schroeder is on the Russan paylist and Merkel has expressed her pleasure at Germany's 'strategic partnership' with Russia....


- Right on, mate. By the way, this Brit Week in Matushka Russia hasn't been too nice, has it? I mean the Russian aggression against the British Council. Will the brutes start beatings of the British nationals staying in Russia? In the past, they beat up Polish dipolomats and vandalised our embassy in Moscow.

London last weekend; Trafalgar square taken over fir the russian winter festival,Moscow today Bbritish culture workers get arrested on jumped up charges........welcome to the 1980s part II

And whom can you name among great men? Stop, I will try to guess; is it a common set of western glamourously pink heroes like John Paul II, Gandi, Mother Tereza and of course the chief of all oppresed Tibetans!!! Am I right?