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75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3


Alien  28 | 6983
1 May 2025   #421
dead civilians

Dead civilians are always too many.
Ironside  51 | 13354
1 May 2025   #422
Does this have anything to do with culture?

Hmm, a long tradition. Ever heard about a ruler called Herod?
Alien  28 | 6983
1 May 2025   #423
Herod

A story like from "Terminator". If Herod had killed Christ, Christianity would not have come into being. Although he only cared about maintaining power.
Bobko  28 | 2493
12 May 2025   #424
One reason why I can appreciate Trump - is the way he has dumped Israel in his second term.

After his first term, where he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, closed his eyes to settlement annexations, and made his Jewish son-in-law the point man for the Israeli-Palestinian peace process... I thought it could only get worse.

The Israelis were so happy, that already in November they began discussing annexing the entire occupied West Bank - and were rubbing their hands at the idea of a potential military operation against Iran.

So... how surprising is it then, that we are now witnessing a collapse of Israeli-American relations? Very surprising!

Point by point:

1) Israel, playing the good lap dog, preemptively lowered tariffs on all US goods to zero. The Trump administration looked at this, and decided to slap a 17% tariff on Israel anyway. Massive confusion ensues in Israel.

2) America negotiates directly with Hamas for the release of the last remaining American hostage. Hamas lets him go. No word on Israeli hostages that remain.

3) America negotiates directly with the Houthis, and arrives at a ceasefire agreement. The ceasefire does not include attacks on Israel, but only on US shipping. The Houthis are free to continue hitting Israel.

4) Trump's first overseas trip (besides Pope funeral), is to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE. Israel tries to convince Trump to visit, first through a visit by Netanyahu himself and then by a follow up visit by Ron Dermer. In the end, Trump refuses to go to Israel because "it will look bad with the Arabs".

What a refreshing change of pace. The WaPo article below quotes some people familiar with Trump's thinking. They say there are three reasons for what's happening:

1) Trump feels Netanyahu was trying to manipulate him into a war against Iran. Nobody manipulates Trump.

2) Trump feels that the $4B in annual aid to Israel is "help enough".

3) Core MAGA is anti-Israel, because of their isolationist views, and the belief that Israel is the tail that has been wagging the dog.

Seems Netanyahu didn't get the America First memo - hahaha. What part of America First did you misunderstand, Bibi?


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Bobko  28 | 2493
12 May 2025   #425
Another little news report that may shed light on why Trump and Israel are going through a divorce:

tbsnews.net/world/trump-cuts-ties-netanyahu-over-manipulation-concerns-israeli-media-1139061?amp

Some additional back story on why Trump doesn't want to see Netanyahu anymore, and why he is convinced that Netanyahu is trying to manipulate him.
Alien  28 | 6983
12 May 2025   #426
Netanyahu is trying to manipulate him.

trying?
Bobko  28 | 2493
12 May 2025   #427
trying?

If Trump will be the first American president to crawl out from under the Israeli thumb - I will forgive him everything.
Torq  16 | 1453
12 May 2025   #428
I will forgive him everything.

Forgive him? 0_0

Forgive him for destroying America's credibility as an ally? Forgive him for spreading Russian propaganda verbatim? Forgive him for weakening the unity of NATO? Forgive him what?
Bobko  28 | 2493
12 May 2025   #429
Forgive him what?

Well... you are correct - for many of his achievements he deserves praise instead of forgiveness.

For the destruction of NATO - I am thankful. For spreading our message of love and compassion - most grateful. For correcting America's moral compass back towards Father Svetovid and Mother Slavia - AXIOS!

The things I need to forgive him for:

1) Being a liar
2) Being a cheat
3) Being cruel
4) Being stupid
5) Making all of the above somehow a desirable mix of character traits in the view of millions and millions of people.
Novichok  6 | 9420
12 May 2025   #430
Forgive him for destroying America's credibility as an ally?

The US doesn't have allies.

We have vassals, parasites, fake friends, and two enemies: DC swamp and stupid voters.
Ironside  51 | 13354
12 May 2025   #431
The US doesn't have allies.

Shush, you moron. The state Department and the generation of American politicians worked hard to maintain that façade, and you are just blowing it into the open. Do you know how many deals it will cost the US? You and your family won't be able to pay it off for ten generations.
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Trump feels Netanyahu was trying to manipulate him into a war against Iran

Feels? He knows it. Is not a big secret. It would be worrisome if he weren't aware of it.
Miloslaw  25 | 5429
12 May 2025   #432
Shush, you moron.

Unfortunately Novichock aka Rich Mazur is becoming a complete one as every day passes and needs to STFU.
Novichok  6 | 9420
2 Jun 2025   #433
As I watch the slow grind in Ukraine, I admire Israel more and more for helping Gazas answer these two questions:

1. Was 10/7 worth it?

2. Would you do it again?

Gazans should thank Israel for this invaluable lesson.

Memo to Gazans: Elections have consequences. Think before you vote.
Alien  28 | 6983
3 Jun 2025   #434
Was 10/7 worth it?
2. Would you do it again?

There will be only one answer.
Novichok  6 | 9420
3 Jun 2025   #435
There will be only one answer.

What will it be?
Alien  28 | 6983
4 Jun 2025   #436
What will it be

Don't tell me you don't know?
Novichok  6 | 9420
4 Jun 2025   #437
I know everything and I am never wrong.

What will it be was addressed to you.
Alien  28 | 6983
4 Jun 2025   #438
I know everything

Share your knowledge on this sensitive topic with us.
Novichok  6 | 9420
4 Jun 2025   #439
I will share my knowledge with those who meet minimum IQ standards and own a pair of balls.

You fail on both counts. Based on your posts, you are a lapdog or a laptop with low-grade AI.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
4 Jun 2025   #440
There will be only one answer.

...now that interests me too, what would it be? Have they started to regret what they did?
Novichok  6 | 9420
4 Jun 2025   #441
You are wasting your time on this gutless slime...I do that, too...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
4 Jun 2025   #442
There will be only one answer.

That did sound so convinced though....so knowing....
Novichok  6 | 9420
4 Jun 2025   #443
Hey, Alien, where is the slot I put a quarter into to get your answer?

I don't mean your body parts.
Alien  28 | 6983
4 Jun 2025   #444
where is the slot

There are two, one for the YES answer, the other for the NO answer. Which one do you choose?
Novichok  6 | 9420
4 Jun 2025   #445
BB, she is all yours...I am out of patience...
Alien  28 | 6983
5 Jun 2025   #446
Have they started to regret what they did?

Terrorists have no scruples, and this was just a test to see how far they could go without major consequences.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
5 Jun 2025   #447
to see how far they could go without major consequences.

....well now they know....at least whats left of them!
Novichok  6 | 9420
5 Jun 2025   #448
....well now they know...

My dear BB...You don't know how slime really operates...Since Clinton, English is no longer what it used to be.

When they say "terrorists", normal people like you assume they mean Hamas...

I don't. They might just as well mean the IDF.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12194
5 Jun 2025   #449
...hard to believe....surely not all of them....
Novichok  6 | 9420
5 Jun 2025   #450
Just assume that every gun is loaded, every snake is venomous, every Am Jew is a swindler like Madoff, and every leftist is a damn liar.

It works for me.

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