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What is a woman?


OP Novichok  8 | 11039
1 day ago   #541
The worst enemy of women is other women and feminists. Here is why:



Memo to PF women: If you can't devote 10 minutes to watch this video and comment, you are useless.

I just gave you the best opportunity to speak up...

Also, to the idiot who said I put her to sleep...I am the one who keeps this forum from falling into a coma...You can do the same ...your own way...

But, as is the custom, women have to be asked to dance...
Joker  2 | 2610
1 day ago   #542
Why do you keep writing about it again and again? Are you that boring and have nothing more interesting to say? 😂🙄

Paulina, you've spent more words on my opinion than I ever did. I'd offer to rent space in your head, but clearly you've already furnished it yourself. Still,,appreciate the attention.
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #543
@Joker, I've spent those words, because I haven't discussed this topic before and finally I decided to "unload" my opinion upon you, like you're doing it to people on this forum on regular basis :)

I'd offer to rent space in your head, but clearly you've already furnished it yourself. Still,,appreciate the attention.

Don't flatter yourself lol I haven't read PF for a month, I came back today and I see the same old crap again - visiting this forum is like living in that movie "Groundhog Day" lol You seriously don't realise how repetitive, boring and tiresome you two are? So what if your comments are short if you write the same thing all the time? 🙄 Is that even normal? 🧐

Btw, you haven't answered my question - do men with tattoos lack class too? :)))

If you can't devote 10 minutes to watch this video and comment, you are useless.

I sure hope I'm "useless" to you then :D 👍

You can do the same ...your own way...

Why would I do that? This forum doesn't deserve my time and effort, I've spent too much of those today on here already anyway.
OP Novichok  8 | 11039
1 day ago   #544
Why would I do that? This forum doesn't deserve my time and effort

It's so funny...People who say nothing complaining that others are boring.

do men with tattoos lack class too? :)))

Men have tattoos to look tough - a trait consistent with their biological mission of providing and protecting.

Women's mission does not include looking tough or like sluts.
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #545
It's so funny...People who say nothing complaining that others are boring.

At least I don't bore people when I say nothing :)))

But you know what, it's your lucky day lol The topic of tattoos is kind of close to my heart, because I'm interested in art and I view tattoos as a form of art, so I'll entertain you for a bit :)

Men have tattoos to look tough

Do they tough? All of them? All kinds of tattoos?

Of course not.

Just like with many other topics, you're ignorant/clueless also about tattoos.

When I was young I enjoyed watching such TV shows like "LA Ink" and "Miami Ink" and thanks to that I learned that people get tattoos for all kinds of reasons. Some (women) get them because they think they look pretty, others because they think they look cool and people in general often use them as a way to express themselves. But also many people would come to honour or show love for their close ones - living or dead. Parents of both sexes would get portraits or names of their kids, adult people would honour the memory of their parents who passed away and so on.

For example, here this guy wanted to mark his little daughter's victory over cancer with a tattoo:



Did he do it to look "tough"? I don't think so lol 🙄🤦 His little daughter is definitely one tough warrior though and that tattoo honoured that, imho.

Women's mission does not include looking tough or like sluts.

People don't get tattoos, because they're on some kind of "mission" lol 😂 🤦
And tattoos don't make women look "though" or "like sluts". Remember those tattoos I posted on the previous page? Flowers aren't "though" or "slutty" - they're beautiful and feminine.

There was a time during watching "LA Ink" when I was toying with the thought of getting some small, elegant tattoo maybe somewhere not visible. Like a few small stars, for example, or a star constellation of my Zodiac sign, because I really like stars, star patterns and stargazing. Obviously, I thought it would look pretty and cool, not "tough" or "slutty". 🙄 And me thinking about getting a cute tattoo of stars obviously didn't make me a "slut" - I was a literal VIRGIN at that time, you idiot, and a religious one at that.🤦 The reason I didn't decide to have it was because tattoos are so permanent and I was afraid I would get bored of it. If tattoos were like clothes and you could change them whenever you like I'd definitely have some fun with them, the way women have fun with clothes and make up :)

Also, when I was a kid we would get those temporary "tattoos" from magazines for kids or teens - roses, hearts, patterns and so on and from what I remember only girls wore them. Yeah, we little girls looked so "tough" and "slutty" with those tattoos... ;D 🙄 Idiot... *sigh* 🤦 What kind of planet do you live on? Is this some kind of alternate universe? Inny stan świadomości?? 😂
OP Novichok  8 | 11039
1 day ago   #546
because tattoos are so permanent and I was afraid I would get bored of it.

There you go! So you have a brain. Congratulations.

Humanity is sheep driven by fads. The ultimate in stupidy is lappig off breats to be a men. The ultimate is crime is doing to a girl because she wants to be a boy.

Parents like this should be shot after a 10-minute hearing.

I am digressing to simply say that anything like a fad should never, ever be permanent. Just imagine permanently blue hair and green nails. Forever...
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #547
do men with tattoos lack class too?

Of course. Any sort of a tattoo reeks of patologia społeczna - if not material then at least mental.
Joker  2 | 2610
1 day ago   #548
Also, when I was a kid we would get those temporary "tattoos" from mag

Wow, Paulina- that was quite the autobiography. I mentioned tattoos, and you gave us the prequel, sequel, and director's commentary. Relax, it was an opinion, not a personal attack. You don't need to turn every comment into a Netflix special about your life.

Don't flatter yourself lol I haven't read PF for a month, I came back today and I see the same old crap agai

Took a month off just to come back and complain again? Must've missed the "crap" more than you thought:)


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Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #549
@Novichok, well, I still like stars, star patterns and stargazing, so if I got that tattoo back then I wouldn't regret it now. I guess I always had other means of expressing myself though - through drawing and painting and so I didn't really need getting a tattoo that much for that.

@Joker, and what's the point of you showing me (or whom exactly) stupid or lame tattoo ideas? On one tattoo show I've seen a guy with a d1ck tattoo lol (obviously he wanted to get it removed). Are there stupid people with stupid/offensive/ugly tattoos? Yes, they are. But there are also people with stunning or touching/meaningful tattoos. You see, people are different (I know, a shocking discovery it must be for you, old padawan lol).

Wow, Paulina- that was quite the autobiography. I mentioned tattoos

...and I explained humans to you and Novichok by my example (among others - watch that video I posted). You should be grateful, considering how clueless and prejudiced you are about your fellow humans. 🤔

Took a month off just to come back and complain again? Must've missed the "crap" more than you thought:)

I guess I needed my monthly fix of kicking the butts of stupid, mentally disgusting people :) 🧐 And to keep myself awake lol, because I needed to finish something 🥱 I'm done now though :)))

Any sort of a tattoo reeks of patologia społeczna - if not material then at least mental.

Tell that to that father who honoured his daughter's fight with cancer with a tattoo... You people are so stupid and mentally disgusting/off-putting... I would so much prefer a guy like that father over someone like you/Joker/Novichok o_O 🤮

Btw, there's a lot of "patologia społeczna" among soldiers then lol The "bone frog" tattoo comes to mind, for example. Navy Seals get that tattoo to honour fallen Seals. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give the slightest sh1t what such keyboard warriors like you think about it ;D

And I think I have a new way of detecting stupid assh0les now - asking them what they think about tattoos :D 🧐

Have you simpletons heard of this "patologia społeczna" of wedding henna tattoos? :D Those are not permament, but still - tattoos. On women :D Very traditional - part of Indian and Arabic culture (and some others, I guess?):

henna
Joker  2 | 2610
1 day ago   #550
I guess I needed my monthly fix of kicking the butts of stupid, mentally disgusting people :) 🧐 And to keep myself awake lol, because I needed to finish something 🥱 I'm done now though :)))

Wow, a whole month off and this is your grand comeback? That's less butt-kicking and more like tripping over your own ego. Anyway, thanks for stopping by-your self-esteem clearly needed the workout. lol

.and I explained humans to you and Novichok by my example (among others - watch that video I posted). You should be grateful, considering how clueless and prejudiced you are about your fellow humans. 🤔

Ah, so now you're explaining humanity to us - impressive promotion from forum philosopher to full-time anthropologist. Appreciate the free lecture, professor, but I think I'll keep learning about humans the old fashioned way, by actually talking to them
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #551
Tell that to that father who honoured his daughter's fight with cancer with a tattoo

I've heard of a father who honoured his daughter's fight with cancer with getting pissed drunk. So what? Should I applaud it?

I don't care about Arabs or American soldiers. In Poland that's definitely patologia.

Besides, tatoos are so widespread among lower classes these days that to have one must feel like wearing Adidas tracksuit and driving a 20-year-old BMW whilst listening to full-volume disco polo. xD
OP Novichok  8 | 11039
1 day ago   #552
It's actually very simple...

Which doctor or lawyer would you pick...the one with tattoos or the one without .. all else being equal..

I refused to hire an engineer with a pony tail.
Alien  29 | 7471
1 day ago   #553
I refused to hire an engineer with a pony tail

I've had an employee with a ponytail for 3 weeks now. We'll see if it works?
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #554
@Novichok, I watched a Polish cooking TV show run by Tomasz Deker - I've noticed he has tattoos on his forearms (like many chefs). He also got the title of World Master confectioner. So I think you know the answer - I don't care in the slightest if someone has tattoos or not - I only care if they're good at their job. You really have outdated views on tattoos.

And there are no two World Masters at a given year - there's only one winner, so, no, it wouldn't be equal.

Btw, I somehow doubt that Deker is wearing Adidas tracksuits and is listening to Disco Polo ;D And I bet he consumes something more than schabowy and Tyskie beer ;D

Wow, a whole month off and this is your grand comeback?

Why everything has to be "grand/big" with you Americans? :D You don't deserve any grandiosity lol It's just a (temporary) come back - get over yourself :)))

but I think I'll keep learning about humans the old fashioned way, by actually talking to them

You'd have to actually talk to people you clearly normally don't talk to in real life due to your prejudices though. Btw, you can get to know stuff about people by talking to them on the internet too. Or over a phone, by writing letters, e-mails lol There are all kinds of ways of communication, you know? :D But, still, even then you'd have to actually listen, be willing to learn.

Novichok keeps sounding like he's never really communicated with many people at all and doesn't know or understand much about humans. And this observation has nothing to do with my ego and you don't have to be a philosopher or full-time anthropologist to notice that there's something wrong with him lol

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So, Joker, do men with tattoos lack class or not? :D Spell it out already, you chicken!

And another question for you - are you one of those men who go around social media and tell random women that you think they're ugly or that you wouldn't have sex with them or that noone would rape them even though they didn't ask you for an opinion? I mean, I hope that you're not THAT retarded and full of yourself, but who knows... 🤔

I've heard of a father who honoured his daughter's fight with cancer with getting pissed drunk. So what? Should I applaud it?

You are seriously retarded.

American soldiers. In Poland that's definitely patologia.

I wasn't talking just about American soldiers - I was talking about Polish soldiers too ;D 🤦 Under what kind of rock are you living??:

gloswielkopolski.pl/rewolucja-kulturowa-w-wojsku-polskim-chodzi-o-tatuaze-i-zarost-otrzymuje-setki-maili-z-podziekowaniami-od-zolnierzy/ar/c11p2-26671939

Naval himself has his blood type tattoed on his arm, btw. He's an awarded former GROM soldier with 14 years of service, bestselling book author, security expert, lecturer, volunteer at Warsaw Rising Museum, supporting charities, taking part in running Grom Challenge, had his own TV show, is currently hired by Polish government, etc. But for keyboard warrior Torq he's "patologia społeczna" (dregs of society) ;D 🤦

wtf
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #555
Polish soldiers too

Here you have an example - as you can see this guy served in both JWK and then later in GROM:


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Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #556
You are seriously retarded.

Typical patologia response.

Q.E.D.

Anyways, why are you so fixated on military? 99% of idiots who get tattoos are not soldiers.
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #557
Typical patologia response.

Since when sharing an opinion is a "typical patologia response"? :D Your comparison was retarded, so... 🤔

And would you like me to remind you what kind of language you yourself were using on this very forum, Mr Not-so-gentlemanly? :)))

Anyways, why are you so fixated on military?

Because you made a generalising idiotic statement about men with tattoos and tattoos are pretty popular in the military?

99% of idiots who get tattoos are not soldiers.

And those who are soldiers - how would you call them? "Idiots"? "Patologia społeczna"?

Also, anyway, I wasn't "fixating" on military - I mentioned that tattoos are also popular among chefs and police officers. They are all "dregs of society", according to you? Tomasz Deker too? lol
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #558
what kind of language you yourself were using on this very forum

As a person of supreme morals and intelligence, I am above such petty considerations.

you made a generalising idiotic statement about men

No, you're wrong. I meant men and women.

And 99% of patologia (material or mental, or both) who get tattoos are not soldiers, so 99% is enough to make a rather accurate generalising statement. :)
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #559
As a person of supreme morals and intelligence

You're not such a person though. Such a person wouldn't call his female therapist a "c*nt" behind her back, because she told you to cut down on writing on PF. Only an idiot from patologia społeczna would behave like that. 🤨

I meant men and women.

Still a stupid, generalising statement. Makes no difference.

And 99% of patologia (material or mental, or both) who get tattoos

Where did you get the data that 99% who have tattoos are patologia? Are my cousins patologia too? lol Or do they belong to that 1%? Do chefs and police officers belong to that 99% of "patologia" or to that 1%?

so 99% is enough to make a rather accurate generalising statement. :)

That 99% is total bullsh1t though that you took out of your ass :)))

You wrote that "Any sort of a tattoo reeks of patologia społeczna" which is simply untrue and a stupid thing to say.
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #560
Such a person wouldn't call his female therapist a "c*nt"

You have great memory and no sense of humour. Pitiful combination.

Any sort

Alright, alright - Mrs Nitpicker. Let's change it to "almost every sort".

Are my cousins patologia too?

How should I know? I don't know your cousins. I only gave you overall estimated chances of being patologia if you have a tattoo (about 99%).
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #561
no sense of humour.

That clearly wasn't a "joke".

Let's change it to "almost every sort".

Still bullsh1t, imho. Just like your 99% estimate. I'm really curious how did you get that percentage? Do you deal with "dregs of society" so often? Because the only people I personally know of having tattoos are far away from any "patologia". So are you basing this on personal experience, real life observations or what you see on TV or what?

How should I know? I don't know your cousins.

Exactly. But you would prejudge them just based on the fact that they have tattoos. Just like Joker and Novichok would judge any woman just based on her having a tattoo. And that's stupid and outdated.

"Any sort of a tattoo

And how could I forget about firefighters, of course (it would be funny if Novichok was saved by a firefighter or a police officer with a tattoo one day :)):


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Feniks  1 | 1053
1 day ago   #562
Any sort of a tattoo reeks of patologia społeczna" which is simply untrue and a stupid thing to say.

Torq is getting old and set in his ways ;)

These days tattoos are commonplace everywhere, even in Poland. I have met Polish guys who are of the opinion that only prisoners have them but clearly times have changed. People have been inking their bodies for thousands of years and now it's suddenly a problem 😂

Please stay for a while Paulina, only the other day I posted that I was missing you and Lenka and here you both are back posting. I will have more time later for replies to posts.

no sense of humour.

She's hilarious! It's some of the PF 'men' that have so little sense of humour.
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #563
That clearly wasn't a "joke".

Of course it was a joke. I adore my therapist; she helped me immensely. Having said that, sometimes she is a bit of a c*nt.

So are you basing this on personal experience, real life observations or what you see on TV or what?

I base it on my highly accurate personal conviction, the lack of depth in the eyes of people with tattoos that I meet; they all have this empty stare, as if they eyes were somehow disconnected from their soul - very disquieting, and last but not least, I base my opinion on the Good Book that says:

"You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord."
- Leviticus 19:28 (ESV)

Whoever disregards what the Word of God says has clearly a 99% chance of belonging to patologia, and I only knew one person in life with a tattoo who wasn't an example of patologia but he wasn't entirely normal either. Hence my 99% estimate.

Torq is getting old and set in his ways ;)

I was born set in my ways. *pouts*

Please stay for a while Paulina

I second this motion. We are like one big dysfunctional family and when a member is away from PF we miss him/her. :( I don't know how many times I fell out with Pawian, and I miss him too.

She's hilarious!

She is indeed, and I really like her. She's smart and has cool combative character but when it comes to detecting sense of humour, she's borderline autistic - I don't even know how many times I said something tongue in cheek and she attacked me with 100% seriousness.
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #564
Torq is getting old and set in his ways ;)

I can understand if people don't like tattoos for aesthetical reasons, but the way Torq, Novichok and Joker judge people who have them is not only outdated, but just vile (and stupid)...

I have met Polish guys who are of the opinion that only prisoners have them

It's been honestly years since I have encountered such an opinion. And yes, tattoos are getting increasingly popular and sometimes I'm surprised at what kind of people have them - I guess I still have some stereotypes myself lol 🤔

only the other day I posted that I was missing you and Lenka and here you both are back posting.

Huh, I didn't know that, I only read a few posts on this thread yesterday, I haven't been reading PF for a while now... I guess you've drawn me here telepathically :)))

She's hilarious!

I wouldn't go that far, but thanks :D ;D
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #565
any woman just based on her having a tattoo

My wife has a tattoo, but...

1. She belongs to the 1% of not-patologia - clearly her choice of husband proves supreme intelligence
and high evolutionary standards (perfect choice of genes).
2. She got it before we met.
3. It's very feminine and sweet and not vulgar at all.
4. I'm not telling you what it is and where she has it.

I only knew one person in life with a tattoo who wasn't an example of patologia

OK, two people, if we count my wife. :)
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #566
Of course it was a joke.

It didn't look like it at all. I was honestly shocked and disgusted by your comment. I figured you must have some serious anger issues.

I base it on my highly accurate personal conviction

LOL
I so knew you're talking out of your ass!

Whoever disregards what the Word of God says has clearly a 99% chance of belonging to patologia

And here we are at the source of your retarded views. I just knew. 🙄 *sigh*

My wife has a tattoo, but...

OMG, THE HYPOCRISY!!!!!! I cannot with these people... 😂🤦

So Joker surely will think your wife has NO CLASS and Novichok will call her a MORONIC, CONFUSED SLUT, HAHAHA... 😂 🙄

Please stay for a while Paulina

To be honest, I shouldn't be wasting my time on posting here, I have at least a few weeks of stuff to do. 🤔 Maybe I'll have a bit more time in December (December is Christmas preparation month for me so doubtful)... January then maybe... Even then I have better things to do though then getting frustrated with hypocritical idiots on PF... lol
Torq  21 | 1975
1 day ago   #567
I so knew you're talking out of your ass!

Well, yeah, but "highly accurate personal conviction" sounds better.

I just knew. 🙄 *sigh*

You're so easy to wind up, Paulina. *rolls eyes*

Novichok will call her a MORONIC, CONFUSED SLUT

Not when I'm around, he wouldn't. :)
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #568
You're so easy to wind up, Paulina. *rolls eyes*

So what's that supposed to mean? You weren't being honest about your views or what? You were lying? Pretending? Trolling me?
You're a troll then? I've noticed lately that every time I get into a discussion with you and I've wasted some time on something I thought was a serious discussion you suddenly claim that you weren't being "serious", that you were just "joking", that you were "winding me up" or whatever. What's the point of having discussions with you then? I have no time for such clowns.

You see, Feniks, people like Torq are one of the reasons PF is a waste of time for me. Too many trolls and psychos. I'm not going to take part in discussions here only to provide entertainment for lying trolls :/

Not when I'm around, he wouldn't. :)

Well, he is a coward and a hypocrite, so you're probably right.
Ironside  53 | 13839
1 day ago   #569
Any sort of a tattoo reeks of patologia społeczna -

In our civilization, it is a sign of some kind of deficiency or issues. Even though it is also a question of fashion, tattoos have been popular lately.
Nevertheless, men are judged less by their looks and more by their capabilities, so men with tattoos, although they reek of issues, are less of an eyesore.
Paulina  19 | 4792
1 day ago   #570
In our civilization

What do you mean by "our civilization"? Here you have a record of a patchy/complicated (and probably surprising to many) history of tattoos in Europe:

cloakanddaggerlondon.co.uk/slaves-royalty-a-brief-history-of-european-tattoos/

From Roman soldiers getting impressed by Celtic tattoos, calling Picts (Scotland) "Pictii," which is Latin for the "Painted Ones", tattoos of the Crusaders identifying them as Christians so they could be assured of a proper burial if they were killed in battle, then tattoos falling out of favour, then getting back into favour thanks to sailors impressed by Tahitian tattoos and even Victorian ladies having "tattoo parties" (I think I was most surprised by this one :D):

"Most of these women saw tattooing as not just fashionable but as a "special secret" of their feminine power, as they mostly chose to have their tattoos placed on areas of the body that were hidden while they were clothed."

...and so on until our times when tattoos are being more and more normalized.

Btw, did you know that Winston Churchill and his mother had tattoos?? :)

less of an eyesore

That depends on the tattoo. There are some ugly tattoos out there lol

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