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Toxic Masculinity


Novichok  6 | 10779
1 Jan 2026   #61
This isn't a 'debate'.

Look up "debate" and its synonyms.

How about a discussion with disagreements?

If it's not a debate, what is it, Mr. Englishman?
Novichok  6 | 10779
1 Jan 2026   #62
This is what happens when fat, ugly, and stupid meets toxic masculinity and "a good morning"...What a creep...


jon357  75 | 25140
1 Jan 2026   #63
Try not to be so boringly contrarian.

And try not to breathe.
Novichok  6 | 10779
1 Jan 2026   #64
Is she your sister?
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1052
2 Jan 2026   #65
@Ironside
Excellent posts.

Even this topic on PF tries to twist the fact that any masculinity is perceived as toxic by feminists. When courts made it more profitable for women to be single parents through divorce,and taking fathers out of childrens homes, the world became much worse for it. Why are people not alking about the toxic feminists, or toxic Karens? And Karens do not have to be female.

So who do you want protecting your home, or your country? Some pussified video game junky, or a man who is willing to fight? Young men today are soft. Most have never even been in a fist fight because the threat of lawsuits or being charged with a crime that was once something settled on the school yard. Mommies and Daddies rushing in to save little Johnny's feelings because someone offended him. All the political correctness and raising kids wrapped in bubble wrap is what makes people see any masculinity as toxic. Yet, its that masculiine man every soft mosther fvcker is going to hope will protect them when needed.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #66
Feminine societies create perversions before they die.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
2 Jan 2026   #67
complex socio-economic processes that don't concern Poland to the same extent

I wonder why you think that.

Poland is a country where systemic discrimination of men is the worst in the entire EU. For example...

- Poland is one of only three countries (the other two being Romania and Croatia) in the EU where the retirement age for man is different (higher) than for women. However, out of these three countries the gap - 5 years - is the largest in Poland;

- only men are subject to mandatory military qualification and potential conscription which creates a sex-based disparity in civic obligations, particularly relevant in emergency or wartime contexts;

- empirical studies and court statistics consistently show that mothers receive primary custody far more frequently than fathers after divorce;

- fathers face higher evidentiary and procedural burdens to obtain sole or equal custody;

- shared custody, while legally possible, is applied inconsistently;

- the entire judicial practice is widely criticized for openly applying practices that disadvantage men;

- maternity leave is automatic and culturally entrenched;

- paternity and parental leave for fathers is underutilized due to, workplace stigma, economic disincentives, employer resistance in male-dominated sectors;

- men receive longer prison sentences than women for comparable crimes (also, conditions in female prisons are not nearly as harsh as those in male prisons);

- women are much more often than men sent to semi-open correctional facilities;

- men are more likely to receive custodial rather than suspended sentences;

- in general, there is a systemic sentencing gap biased against men, not explicitly codified but consistently observed;

- male victims of domestic violence face: limited shelter access, skepticism from police and social services, lower reporting rates due to social stigma;

- men are overrepresented in high-risk occupations (construction, mining, transport, heavy industry) and fatal workplace accidents;

- occupational health initiatives are less targeted at men as a vulnerable group;

- male-specific health risks receive less policy attention compared to women's health programs.

I could go on. This is all based on court statistics and academic sources and simply widely accepted by the society who still thinks that women should be treated with privilege because they give birth to children. The problem is that 57 % of Polish women in the age group of 18-40 don't have children.

So, if anything the systemic discrimination of men in Poland is way worse than in the West, which still doesn't change the fact that Tate is a retard, and listening to him for more than 15 minuts bears a significant risk of severe drop in IQ level.

The proper way to approach the problem is to legally destroy the systemically and structurally sexist system biased against men, for example by equalizing the retirement age, and not to idolize women-haters like Tate. This will only deepen the sociological problems we face today. Justice for men, not hatred for women.

#JusticeForMen

#JusticeNotHatred
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1052
2 Jan 2026   #68
The problem is that 57 % of Polish women in the age group of 18-40 don't have children.

Is that a real fact? If so, its alarming.

I dont know that Tate is the problem, maybe more of a symptom of the problem. He has lost a lot of his influence. Jordan Peterson has a much more consistant message and larger more positive audience.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
2 Jan 2026   #69
If so, its alarming.

It is indeed alarming, just as the fact that in 2024 Poland experienced the lowest birhtrate in history (1.1), and when we get full data for 2025 it is likely to be even lower.

That's why everyone who is undermining the institution of marriage, marital faithfulness and traditional family values - like Tate does (and unfortunately he has followers even in Poland) - is a pest and a Satan's aide.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #70
It is indeed alarming

Poles idolize Mary, who did nothing, over Jesus, who did all the heavy lifting, including the cross.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
2 Jan 2026   #71
Poles idolize Mary (...) over Jesus

No, we don't.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #72
Google knows Poland better than you do...

Why do Poles idolize St. Mary?

Poles deeply venerate St. Mary because she became a unifying symbol of Polish identity, faith, and survival during centuries of foreign partitions, especially when the Polish state didn't exist, earning her the title "Queen of Poland". Her image, particularly the Black Madonna of Częstochowa, offered comfort and hope as a motherly protector, binding the nation and preserving Catholicism during hardships, culminating in her official coronation as Queen and a powerful national icon.


What else can teach you about Poland?
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
2 Jan 2026   #73
Google knows Poland better than you do.

Your original sentence said...

Poles idolize Mary, who did nothing, over Jesus

In the first part of the sentence quoted above, you managed to write 3 lies in 8 words. That's quite an accomplishment!

First lie: Poles idolize Mary.
Answer: No, we don't. We venerate her. Idolize means something else, but after all these years in the USA you should know English good enough to know that.

Second lie: who did nothing.
Answer: Mary not only freely consented to God's plan and gave birth to Jesus but also expressed remarkable faith, actively supported Jesus' ministry, stood by him at the cross, and was part of the early Church. The Gospels consistently show her as an active participant, not a passive bystander.

Third lie: (Poles idolize Mary) over Jesus
Answer: Jesus is worshipped as God (the Second Person of the Holy Trinity), Mary receives dulia (veneration) - a fundamentally different category.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #74
Never try to teach me English.

Idolatry

Definition: Worshiping a false god or an object as if it were God.

Target: Anything given the worship (adoration, latria) due only to God.

Purpose: Often involves attributing divine power or seeking salvation from the object itself.


Mary was not God. She was 11 when she got pregnant - a kid who was still playing with Barbie and her pink Corvette, for crying out loud.

Kids that age sleep with teddy bears, not 40+ lechers and rapists. If I found Joseph in bed with Mary, I would beat the fvck out of the SOB.

Honestly, if I were a Catholic, I would keep my mouth shut about Mary and her rape - statutory or not...

In Texas, the Holy Spirit would serve 25 for this stunt. He would never be paroled...His cell buddies would make sure of it...
OP Alien  30 | 7691
2 Jan 2026   #75
Mary, who did nothing

Except that she gave birth to and raised Jesus.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #76
Except that she gave birth to and raised Jesus.

BFD!

10 billion women did the same thing before and after her...

Today, even men can get pregnant and deliver healthy babies.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
2 Jan 2026   #77
Never try to teach me English.

I will if you use "idolizing" or "idolatry" instead of "veneration". The rest of your post is your usual blaspheming nonsense. *yaaaaaaawn*
jon357  75 | 25140
2 Jan 2026   #78
She was 11 when she got pregnant

And you know that how?

Kids that age sleep with teddy bears

Unless they lived in 19th century Delaware, where the age of consent was 7.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #79
And you know that how?

From the Bible and the Internet...

How do you know she was not 11? So how old was she? If you don't know, you have no basis to question 11.

where the age of consent was 7.

A 7-year-old consenting to anything of this magnitude? That was rape, pure and simple. Not even statutory...

At that age, they can consent to visiting Grandma and Grandpa.

You are sick in more ways than one...
jon357  75 | 25140
2 Jan 2026   #80
From the Bible and the Internet

No you don't, and the internet wasn't around then.

Nor was r*SSia.

7-year-old consenting to anything of this magnitude? That was rape, pure and simple. Not even statutory...

Exactly. It happened in your country almost within living memory. We can prove that since it is documented. The Iron Age Middle East was a different place with different ways of thinking to now.
Novichok  6 | 10779
2 Jan 2026   #81
The Iron Age Middle East was a different place with different ways of thinking from now.

It was still a crime against nature and girls' biology.

Remember the Indians burning women? To your credit, the UK put an end to this barbarism. Getting a 7-year-old girl pregnant is just a small step behind it.

Crime can be defined in more ways than what's in the penal code that was written by the same azzholes who wrote the Bible...the most incomprehensible piece of lit ever ... and for a good reason...so that it can mean whatever the current crew of lying interpreters wants it to mean...ageless...
Ironside  53 | 13980
3 Jan 2026   #82
I wonder why you think that.

I guess I don't know much about it.
Miloslaw  26 | 5750
3 Jan 2026   #83
Never try to teach me English.

But you really need to be taught it properly, your English is crap.
jon357  75 | 25140
4 Jan 2026   #84
It was still a crime against nature and girls' biology.

So what.

Lots of things that were normal in the last are crimes now, and vice versa.
Novichok  6 | 10779
4 Jan 2026   #85
Lots of things that were normal in the last are crimes now, and vice versa.

In the history of mankind, no 7-year-old girl ever said: Hey, old man, come here and fvck my pussy...deep and hard...

When it was being done to her, she KNEW right there and then that she was being raped...even if she didn't study law or medicine before that moment.

Now I know why God helped create guns...
Novichok  6 | 10779
4 Jan 2026   #86
Lots of things that were normal in the last are crimes now, and vice versa.

No, azzhole, it was never normal because these girls didn't feel it was normal.

It was normal to perverts who today feel it's normal to rape 8-year-old boys behind a confessional. All gay perverts, btw...

BTW, thanks for the opportunity to show again what a piece of work God was then and still is now.

From Star Tribune:

The brutal rape of a 9-month-old girl in Hastings has left even police officers, emergency room doctors, and courthouse workers outraged. The baby needed extensive surgery to repair her badly torn body...

Later, some azzfvcker on PF would say: What's the problem? She didn't object, did she?

No, she didn't object...She just screamed so loud that nobody could figure out what she was saying...Do you think those 7-year-olds were asking for more?
jon357  75 | 25140
5 Jan 2026   #87
No, azzhole, it was never normal because these girls didn't feel it was normal

Yes, arsehole, things that are normal now were not always normal.

Now run along and play in the road.
Novichok  6 | 10779
6 Jan 2026   #88
Judge: You raped a 7-year-old girl!

An LGBT scumbag: She consented.

Judge: She is mute!

An LGBT scumbag: I asked her...

Judge: She is deaf!

An LGBT scumbag: I gave her a Barbiie doll, she smiled and nodded Yes! So whipped out my dick and shoved it into her vagina...So what's the problem, Judge?

Besides ...The age of consent is 7 and her dad said OK, go ahead...

Judge: Offcers, take this POS away before I throw up...Now!!!
OP Alien  30 | 7691
8 Jan 2026   #89
An LGBT scumbag

A more appropriate term would be pedophile.

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