Toxic Masculinity

..just as we suppress farts when the time is wrong.

You tell me the purpose of telling a cop that his dick is short...Women do it often when done with kicking and spitting...

Wanna see a video?

I think your honesty will be wasted on them but I still appreciate it.

I already said once about my mom's office when I was a kid - out of 4 women 3 were victims of domestic violence.

In all three cases, the women were angels. Right?

Quoting:

I've often seen the claim that while men abuse women physically, which is why they have a clearer body count to identify when talking about violence between genders, women abuse just as much (if not more) through psychological means.

A punch may leave a bruise. An insult cuts deep. Women are excellent at dispensing insults. Then they get hit...911...cops...he hit me ...arrest...unemployment...divorce...the end.

Only because the bit*ch had to say that she met somebody else and that he is much better in bed...Most likely a lie to make him suffer humiliation...

That's how stupid women are...Mouth always ahead of the brain...

Thanks. I've no doubt that it will be wasted and most of the time I let the misogyny on here go over my head or it would drive me nuts, but now I feel men should be called out on it.

I'm not a man-hater, there are plenty of decent men out there who make good husbands and partners, but there are also many men whose views on women are abhorrent. In my opinion, misogyny and violence against women is increasing and men such as Andrew Tate, hugely influential amongst young males, are driving the problem.


I'm not surprised. For a long time it wasn't even spoken about.

As an aside, the judge who sentenced the doctor to a lenient sentence which was then increased on appeal, said in court when addressing the defendant, that he had suffered enough given that his medical career was over and that he'd been struck off the medical register. Imagine how his victims felt.

The final insult was that if he had been sentenced just one year later, then he would have been imprisoned for significantly longer as maximum penalties were revised due to the the law being altered and updated regarding sexual offences. I've seen similar court cases since involving GP's and breach of trust cases and 10 year plus sentences being handed down.

...they also say such insane things like "men should always be trusted", "we don't need women", and when asked what they bring to the table, men make this sweeping gesture from the chest to their dicks and say "me".

Oops, I forgot...it's women who do it. I am so sorry...

For the extra fun, they lie about being pregnant and with whom...Falsely accuse men of rapes, and how they molest their daughters...Cops know that it will be version 7 that will have some elements of truth...That's why patience is a prerequisite to being a cop...

Real sweethearts...

What do you bring to the table that men really want?

1. Respect...not sex...They can buy that...

...for less than the first dinner date with you.

Let me also assure you, sweetie, that men don't give a fvck about your SM followers...and those revealing photos...They hate them...

If toxic masculinity is bad, toxic females are so stupid it's deadly ...

@Feniks

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope all is well in your private life now.


It depends. If a child is born to a single mother and is raised from the beginning by her, or if a mother dies before the child can remember her and it is raised by a single father, then I can agree. However, we were talking about people with kids divorcing and here child/teen psychology in unequivocal and ruthless - children who go through their parents' divorce are hurt profoundly and irreversible damage is done to their psyche.

That's why, apart from cases of domestic violence, people with children should never divorce. It is a question of responsibility and common human decency - the innocent children that they brought to this world are more important than their wishes, whims and lusts. If those people are not complete and utter neanderthals, they will not "scream constantly at each other". Feelings they once had for each other may fade away but the sense of responsibility should tell them not to hurt their children just because they f*cked up their marriage.

Of course, modern world will tell you something exactly opposite - f*ck the kids, follow your own wants, realize your potential, you have right to be happy blah blah blah.
It's all devil's speaking.


He really gets on my nerves. Idiots like him, plus the Red Pill/MGTOW incel crowd are a part of today's problem with people forming lasting relationships and honouring their oaths and obligations. Of course, there is much more to it - toxic, aggressive feminism, capitalists adjusting the economy so as to force women out of their houses and into the workforce, popular culture creating unrealistic expectations as to the future spouse etc. - the entire modern culture is set against families.


Incomprehensible. I mean, for crying out loud - you are a doctor, you have high social status, you're making tons of money, you're intelligent (you have to be to finish medical studies), you could pick and choose and get pretty much any woman you want, and instead you choose to molest your patients and risk your entire professional and private life. Mind boggles.

Depends on the couple in question. If the divorce is reasonably amicable and the parents take care to put the children's best interests first, co-parenting, joint custody, no emotional loading, it is better for them than living in a toxic home with constant bickering and a near-permanent bad atmosphere.


Sadly, all too many are.

Feniks, you should read my post carefully; there are words I use for a reason. For example, "to some extent." Do you know what it means? It means that although women can't be blamed entirely for a situation they put themselves in, they bear some responsibility for it. How is that hateful?

You are an adult, and your actions have consequences. Sometimes you make a mistake-it's human. At times, there is a lapse in judgment that is understandable, especially when you are young.

You shared your story, and I do appreciate your sincerity. I'm not saying it is your fault, but if you think back, I'm sure you can see some warning signs you might have missed or overlooked at the time. Do you understand what I mean?
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Deserve has nothing to do with it. Why do women have difficulty understanding this? It must be one way or the other. Don't you ever think about reevaluating things or engaging in self-reflection? I could certainly do better. Don't you feel the same? You seem to think you do everything perfectly, while others are just villains and pieces of trash.

However, I must say that the doctor was a vile piece of sh't and deserves to be castrated and put in prison with other scum.
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That's what people like to believe, but unless children are really abused seriously, even those yelling at each other are better than a single parent.

Depends on circumstances as Jon has said. Also on the age of the children and whether their interests are put first.


But it may end up that way. Till death us do part is a long time and people are not robots.

I know a Polish couple still together as neither will divorce, but the constant rows are affecting at least one of their children.
The husband had an affair over a year ago which his wife cannot forgive or forget about. Their 13 year old daughter spends as much time as she can at my friend's house because she doesn't want to be at home because of the atmosphere. She says they think she can't hear them from her bedroom, but she hears everything. I've seen her in tears many times. There is no sign of this abating. Those children are going to grow up nervous wrecks.

Sometimes a parting of the ways is best for all concerned.


Exactly.


I would say this is a matter of perception rather than fact. There are always going to be extreme cases but these are not the norm. Novi, for example, revels in posting those videos showing extreme examples of female behaviour and trying to have us believe that this what all females are like. Apart from his wife and daughters of course. Most women are nothing like that, at least the ones that I know aren't.


This I would agree with. and for many, I don't think marriage is even on the agenda. Traditional gender roles have shifted and the lines have become blurred over time.

I think young people today are a very confused bunch and social media has played a large part in that. Many lack direction and rather than having positive role models, they are engaging with influencers/YouTubers etc. It's given a platform to people like Andrew Tate. I actually feel for young people growing up today.

You got this the other way around. Tate was created by feminism and the modern world that vilifies men. Feminsm as a men-hating ideology is an action; Tate is a reaction.
In a world where feminism, progressivism, and hedonism prevail, when Christians are put into catacombs when there are no morals and values, and men are preferred scapegoats, Andrew Tate is unavoidable.
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So, according to your acute senses, I am misogynistic? LOL!
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Why does this disclaimer sound so much like when a person says - I'm not a racist but .....those and those people are really....! lol!
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The British system has long been subverted, and now perpetrators are victims unless you type some hate words against protected minorities.
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Those people are disenfranchised and face problems you have no idea about. They have enough in their own country, righteous pricks who preach to them. This won't solve any issues, and they are not a problem; they are a reflection of complex socio-economic processes that don't concern Poland to the same extent yet.

Ah, I'm overwhelmed by these forums with such an amount of nonsense that sometimes I forget to share some timeless kernels of truth. Often, modern women are the way they are due to their doting fathers. It is very easy to dote on your daughters, especially when they are young, because it can be very rewarding. However, this often leads fathers to go overboard, and combined with protective instincts, it creates a princess without a kingdom, which is a problem.

Even that fool Novi, yapping about women this or that, talks about his daughters or granddaughters as princesses. He is part of the problem.

The modern world (or any other world you may know of) does not "vilify men" and nor was that creep Tate "created by feminism".


What "catacombs"?


Don't be silly.


To him, they are.

That just sounds like victim blaming to me.


I do.

He had trust issues because he had been cheated on before. He thought I would do the same despite the fact that I was never unfaithful or gave him cause to think otherwise. That doesn't warrant physical violence and why should I bear responsibility for his insecurities?


Hardly. I don't how you can say that to be honest. I was just unlucky and I certainly don't see all men in the way you seem to think I do.


People like that in positions of power gamble on patients not reporting it because of the fear they won't be believed. His abuse spanned 18 years before it caught up with him.

The 8 of us who testified are probably the tip of the iceberg. I'm damn sure there were more but giving evidence in a trial is an ordeal that many wouldn't want to do.


Because I was addressing you in particular and when talking about feminism you always follow it up with that term:



I would say so.

They are a bunch of retards and Tate is the most retarded of them all. The fact that he managed to create a quasi-cult around him testifies sadly about the average IQ of his followers.


Gamble is exactly the right word. Gamble their professional and private lives, their income, their future for a moment of bodily satisfaction. I wish someone conducted some sort of psychological research explaining the exact moment in which a sane, intelligent person, decides to gamble his entire life for something that he could easily have in abundance legally.

You should ask what I mean by 'the modern world'. Your response would be more credible, as it is, it looks a lot like a platitude, yawn.
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He wasn't created per se, but a lot of his views and the traction he gets, as well as the viewers, are absolutely because of feminism.
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Are you asking for an address?
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I wish I were silly, I wish I were foolish than to observe the degeneracy of progressive mentality spread into the legal profession. However, as a certain zionist used to say about everything but Israel, facts do not care about your feelings.
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To me, it looks like many women in general don't even know or are unfamiliar with the concept of accountability for their own actions or flaws.
So that idea that all of it is just victim-blaming falls from heaven for them.
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Look, the point I'm making is that in your case, you found him attractive enough and trustworthy enough for you that you progressed with your relationship regardless of his issues.
You took a leap of fate, and you took a risk because of that attraction; in other words, you gambled, and you lost.
Is that your fault? No, it is his fault for being a tool. Think about it this way - gambling is high-risk play and often tricky, you tried, and you lost, but some other gal was wise enough not to do it. Who is right here? You tell me.
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Because that is exactly what it is. I was fooled for a time into believing that feminsm is somehow about some women's rights. Not any longer, I see what it is - feminism, communism, fascism as birds of a feather flock together.
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I wonder why you think so. Luckily, I don't care about those labels; such labels are like a white cane for the blind. No offence meant.
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From the way you talk about that issue and the way you group and bunch things together, I see you have no clue about it. Why do you present having an opinion about issues that you are clueless about? It makes you look foolish.
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Because I watched a couple of his videos on YouTube - it was painful and I lost about 20-25 IQ points in the process - and, for example, in one of them he said that a man can have a wife and children and they can be a perfectly happy family and he can still "f*ck other b*tches" (direct quotation). And the crowd of retards in the studio were cheering and clapping.

If that guy is your hero, Iron, then I congratulate you.

That and the power of the internet combined with crude persuasion techniques. And we can see what that has led to with trumplecúntskin.


It's about rights, empowerment and role in society. Something the losers in the 'manosphere' are too fragile and weak to deal with, hence part of the appeal of that creep to his core audience, teenage boys.

When she burns the dress she is ironing, it's his fault, too...because his teevee was loud and distracting...

Great post, Iron...


In some cases, feelings replace facts...and if you stick to the facts, you are a transphobe, racist, misogynist, xenophobe, Islamophobe,...

The best defense: plead guilty to all of it. Mockery is often the only weapon against these azzholes...

Oh, fvck, the men's restroom is full. I am a woman now...

I did it twice.

Then he's a loser by Andrew Tate's definition, since he can't afford to send clothes out to a laundry.

If you are searching for life advice on the internet, I congratulate you. LOL!
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You seem to be missing a point here. Who cares about Tate? If he wants to talk, let him. Some people think he's their guru, while others just like what he has to say-no problem. Why are you going after them as some kind of totalitarian?
Who is in power and shapes reality? Go and get them!

My point is that in the reality of feminism, progressivism, anti-Christian conspiracies, and all the issues we face in the modern world, people like Tate become gurus. Civilization regresses into barbaric times where power, wealth, and hedonism are the norm.

Also, you confuse so-called "incels" with Tate, which shows a lack of understanding. Look up Nick Fuentes for it.
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Are you funny? Tate for the president LOL! Trump got support from High Tech Valley, Hollywood, and the Israeli lobby.
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No, it is not. It's about the destruction of civilized Christian society.

To benefit whom?

Satan and his worshippers.

That is not a positive thing.


Don't be so fůcking ridiculous. Get a grip on yourself.

Nothing ridiculous about what Iron says.

Is this how you debate? How old are you?

This isn't a 'debate'.

Now buzz off and stop making a tit of yourself.