Where are you from?

Yeah...I see you waving the german flag through my web cam! :)

....next you will tell me you support the german Fußballmannschaft....


German citizens are probably one of the most documented people (outside of a dictatorship)....the duty for papers of any kind for every occasion runs high.

But for foreigner it depends...the older ones came invited during the West-German "Wirtschaftswunder".....mostly southern Europeans and Turks....they and their descendants are as well documented as native Germans by now.

The newer ones? Not so much!

The problem with many immigrants nowadays is that they come from regions where that isn't so orderly. Often papers get lost (they say, even as they manage to hold onto their expensive smartphone somehow)....more often they just lie to get in the "asylants of the month Germany is sympathetic to" group hoping for better chances to be accepted.

So, that brings us to the current most annoying conundrum of the german immigration policies - even if someone has no chances to get legally accepted, even when he becomes a criminal, without a real documented country to be shoven back to (always assumed said home country wants him back in the first place) he has to stay...in the worst case for infinity...supported by the teeth grinding german taxpayer!

....and you talk about some future, heh:)

Folk songs were beginning to fall out of favor among younger Germans as far back as the '8O's! Heard an older man whistling "Wenn wir marschieren..." at a bus stop in Hamburg and somebody summoned a policeman. That was in 2OOO-:)

You asked me what has changed. You did and for the better - without any intent to be patronizing on my part.
I knew that yours was the only sensible answer to my last question - meant as a test since I know everything.
This is the ratchet wrench quandary the gentle Western whites everywhere are in now - all hearts and no balls; a terminal condition with violence as the only cure.

Still....IMHO it is boring to surround yourself with likeminded posters. It's like talking to a mirror...

If you are interested in real discussions you should look out for different opinions....then take them apart with facts....try to convince them....try to see things from their perspective....avoid to demean them because that's mostly the end of any fruitful exchange...and you will have alot more fun, promise! :)

PS: I don't think I changed that much?

Oh, I see!

I'd think at least half, if not 2/3 of USians would think Islam doesn't belong to USia.

And, if the elected Muslim congressman and women are representative of how Islam and USia intermingle, then 2/3 is still too small, IMO.

No Muslim candidates in Germany's current election. Cem Ozdemir, are you sleeping the next one out too?

Muslims should be classified as foreign agents, barred from all government positions, and their schools closed.

Not unless the PEGIDA or Gauland's AfD have a say!

@Bratwurst Boy: belongs Islam to Germany
Islam belongs to West Germany, Pegida und AfD belongs to East Germany. In this case the division of Germany still exists today.

Nun ja....the surveys and polls don't make that distinction....the majority who thinks the Islam doesn't belong to Germany says so across the country.

domradio.de/themen/islam-und-kirche/2021-06-11/sorge-vor-wachsender-bedrohung-laut-umfrage-gehoert-der-islam-fuer-viele-nicht-zu-deutschland

alice-schwarzer-stiftung.de/2021/06/11/umfrage-islam-und-islamismus/

Only 5% would agree with you!

OK perhaps I am not up to date in this matter.

Na ja....there is still a great divide what "knowing Muslims" concerns....Wessis know more Muslims than Ossis....but it doesn't help that much.

Just a matter of time. Germans are mostly reasonable people, and once it sinks in that the fear of muslims is anything but reasonable, they will change their mind.

...yeah....till the "old Germans" have died out, you mean...the youth will embrace Islam...suuure! :)

The most perverted way of thinking but I am not surprised considering the source.
Hey, Tacitus, normal people DO NOT invite people they have to learn not to be afraid of. Only brainless leftist morons do!

Basically just fear of anything that isn't their sister or a bland meal.

Hmm.....I dunno....this place in central Europe now called Germany has historicall always been a destination for immigration....I don't remember much fear about them.

To put the muslim immigration at the same level ignores the big differences, cultural, social and religious....that is not helping at all! Also the naive wish that their assimilation will work in time in the same way as with the millions of Europeans which have become bonafide Germans over the centuries....it just won't work that way, it is just not the same!

I guess this ignorance, this willful putting the head in the sand, will be the downfall of the european/german left at one time in the future....at one time they just will be unable to shove that growing problem away anymore!

How about doing what we all do at home: select our guests. How about only white Christians? Duh! Too radical and not "progressive" enough?
I have seen all kinds of idiots. White leftists stand alone. Nobody can compete with them in the mad race to the bottom.

It has been a centre of emigration for centuries. Mahlzeit.

There is no such thing as "a center of emigration" - only a bs way to justify the sick "new world without borders" and useless people who want to go from Point A they fu*cked up to Point B they didn't manage to destroy just yet.

Today, Points B are all white. In the past, they were black and vastly improved with whites in charge.

Anywhere industrialised has been in a sense a centre of migration; human migration patterns and trade/industry/urbanisation have always gone together.

Industrialised = higher standard of living = white.
Primitive = low standard of living = black

Whites migrating to black - SoL goes up.
Blacks migrating to white - SoL goes down.
Whites chased out - hunger. See Zimbabwe.

It looks increasingly that the Zoomers don't stress so much about perceived differences.

Do you have some links to support that statement?

Do you think a chat forum is an essay?

I found that interesting and quite actual report about european youth with alot of data:


aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/8/11/future-generations-will-not-bridge-europes-divides


But that still seems to a cherished hope by many lefties! :) The latest shock for that belief came just recently in Germany as at least the half of the young voters didn't care for socialism or anything green at all....


I just think it gives a statement more value if its not just written, like a personal opinion....or wishful thinking! :)

Comments here are exactly personal opinion; whether or not some people just go searching online for something that agrees with what they want to say (though it can go badly wrong as it did for you the other day when you were searching for pics of doners from Germany and inadvertently posted one from the UK).

And yes, the Zoomer generation are far less given to othering individuals and groups. Familiarity doesn't always breed contept.

Sad that a yet another thread has morphed into people posting negative stuff about immigration and Muslims.

Some here seem to think about little else.

NO WAY!!!!

As they say in 'murica: "no cap"...

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-european-85987/33/#msg1815471