USA News and Poland - part 17

Not necessarily. Don't forget Saudi Arabia and Egypt have a significant voice.


All over. Jordan, Qatar, Egypt, SA, UAE. I think we have for far too long projected our way of doing things into an area that finds our way ineffective and problematic. We need to look at each place organically and realize that it may not be beneficial for Saudis, for example, to trumpet full blast that the Iranian mullahs must fall. It may be more beneficial and effective for Saudis to be quiet and work behind the scenes.


Did you know that a lot of religious Jews, including influential rabbis, thought the Zionist movement was a dumb idea that shouldn't be done? I think Israel has a right to exist, but it doesn't have to be what Bibi wants it to be.

...but that won't stop Hamas from terrorizing the whole region....not only Jews!

And actually the Saudis have an agreement with Iran, who promised (!) to stop to feed it's Houthis in Yemen (brokered by the Chinese of all people)...so I dunno what can be expected of them...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_proxy_war


Maybe...after all it should be only the Jews having the last word about their country.

But thing is that all these last decades with its hundreds of agreements and talks and arrangements failed. Everything else but such an allout war, as Netanjahu orders now, has never stopped terrorists from murdering innocent civilians, there was never a real peace truly wanted. That is also a factor to be acknowledged.

@Bratwurst Boy

I used SA as an example of how a country in the ME may need to behave differently than we expect, ie not scream their disapproval of certain groups, to be more effective in dealing with competing factions.

That deal between Iran and SA, BYW, doesn't seem to be much more than opening dialogue between countries.

Not all Jews are Israelis and not all Israelis are Jews. But, yea, I agree Israelis should decide what they should do for their country. But, they shouldn't decide (or guilt, ie Germany) that other countries should support what they do. Other countries should decide how their own interests are served by supporting or not supporting what Israel does.

So, my question is how does supporting Israel benefit our interest? Hamas was never a real threat to America and I don't believe it was to Germany. So, how does supporting of Israel further interests of western countries?

....as I already wrote, Hamas is Iran's spawn....and Iran's declared main enemy is the United States of America! They do nothing without your Heimat in their gun sight.

What happens in the whole Middle and Near East is a proxy war like known from the last Cold War....with Israel the only real usable power player for the West....so we better support them or there will be brutal awakening.

Not wanting to "play" is understandable but will cost especially the US alot more later than any support of Israel now!

....its late over there, have to go...'night *waves*

Because you are full of shlt...

Before 10/7 there were 2 million Gazans. 50% of them were children.

Since 10/7, 66,000 Gazans have died. 20,000 of them were children. That's 30%.

This proves the exact opposite of your BS claim that Israelis targeted kids.

If they did for genocidal reasons, Gaza kids would comprise at least 60% of the total, or twice as many as the actual deaths.. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We all do..as long as Arabs stay in Arab countries - not in Minnesota, Michigan, or Poland...

We should allow them to have as many mosques here as they allow Catholic churches and Jewish temples in Mecca.

At home, they can be as complex as the universe...

For the benefit of PF foreign posters...This is what the shutdown is all about:



If you watch this short video, you will know more about this subject than 100 million American morons who can only do one thing: fight Trump - even if he found a cure for all cancers...

I have asked that question a long time ago, and I'm still waiting for an answer.
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So why don't you say it in the first place? Rather than acting like a vagina and a weasel with your whys.
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I never said they specifically target toddlers. Only that they slaughter toddlers as part of an ethnic cleansing plan, which includes indiscriminately killing all civilians.
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@Bratwurst Boy

I don't believe Iran is nearly the threat we make them out to be.

American intelligence believed Iran was years away from nuclear weapon grade enrichment. We relied on Israeli intelligence, which said weeks away, to decide to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities. We listened to Israel, instead of our own intelligence. Maybe Israel cooked its intelligence to get us to act.

Let's say Iran hets a bomb. And, further, it develops the rocketry to deliver that nuclear bomb to America shores -highly unlikely-but let's go with it. Do you think nuking America would have consequences? I do, Iran would be turned to glass. Iranian mullahs know that. Maybe I'm wrong, but the mullahs don't seem to be suicidal.

No, it's not America that is at real risk-it's Israel. And, Israel wants America to do its bidding.


Agreed. Developing relationships with them, like Trump wants to do, is the way to go, IMO. The neo-conesque thing of lumping them together as nothing but terrorists, therefore pariahs is not the way to go. Developing economic and geopolitical ties with them are more beneficial and more probable to lead to oeace, IMO.

I generally agree with this approach, and fully agree with most of your post, but if anything has been shown is that Middle Eastern guerillad do not shy away from infiltrating and abusing humanitarian organisations to perform the most heinous things possible. Vengeance is too deeply rooted as a norm for a form of justice.

You are full of shlt. Either they deliberately "slaughter" toddlers or they don't.

50% of the population vs 30% of the dead says they don't. They actually avoid killing kids. It's Hamas that uses kids as shields by using hospitals and schools for military purposes.

How about "a collateral damage"? Heard this one?

The problem here on PF is when an azzhole is nailed to the wall with numbers, he still talks shlt rather than just saying "I didn't know that".

The difference between MAF and MAG:

Make America Fascist = bigger government

Make America Great = smaller government

Which one do you want, Euros?

Yeah...well....there is nothing left to discuss then. All our argumentation is reasoned in that base of a global threat or its lack, and since nobody of us has this magic glass orb to see the future....*shrugs*

We will see!

Good argument! The "antifascist" crowd has usually nothing against a big powerful state which takes full control of education, media, justice and everything...needing to teach them "stupid proles" the one and only right way to the bright future!

All stuff they fear coming once them "Nazis" take over....

Kind of ironic!

How things have changed...

Young revolutionaries of the sixties hated the ruling class. Now they want to be them.

AntV, Iran does not pose a threat to anyone. Trump and those 7 bunker-busting marvels delivered the message...

What Iran donates to the useful idiots does.

Just look at what that truck with drones, deep in the Russian territory, did...

Remeber the Boston Marathon? Two azzholes paralized the city for three days...

That's why I love the ICE and the FBI. Money well spent...I wish I was young enough to join...I would work for free.

....also....they don't want to lose their grip on the power!

For many years the Left in the West was extremely powerful...she rode the left-green-woke "Zeitgeist"....now that is over and they panic!

Even if such changes are totally normal and not "anti-democratic" or "Nazi"....they have to learn and adapt, there is no other way.....

They always do when good men are not afraid to say: NO!!!

Better yet: No fvcking way, azzholes!!! - to remove any doubts...

I am thrilled to see it happening in Western Europe. I only wish it did earlier - like in Poland - and be more violent.

Mermo to Poland:

Dear Poland, I couldn't be prouder of you for your "NO MUSLIM REFUGEES HERE" policy.

Stay white, Christian, and Polish, and fvck the EU multi morons.

The short version: Fvck you, lefteist b*tch...

I am so proud of Trump for not swallowing that hook...

The buffoon hasnt been back as he knows he has been beaten...lol Chalk up another win for the Americans:)


Poland is the only smart county in Europe by refusing to let the savages in.

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About that pic above...

Why the fvck do they come to the white countries if they hate our customs and culture?

Especially women...Once they are here, they are free from Sharia and can wear what normal humans do.

Memo to Arab broads: You scare our kids...Knock that shlt off.

Any Muslims here?

Imagine how hot and stinky it must be inside those beekeeper's outfits.


Thier goal is to take over the country they invade, not assimilate.

...like a python swallowing a horse...slowly...while the stupid horse smiles and talks shlt about the benefits of multiculturalism...

Hey, Brits, you are that stupid horse...

I didn't know that leftists can be that insane...It's really depressing.



They should be shot - legally, of course...

How surprising to learn that your ignorance of your own country (such as which states actually pay for the country to run and which party the welfare queens vote for) is matched by your ignorance of Poland. If you mean 'foreigners' when you say "savages", the reality is that between 2022 and 2024 alone, the number of foreigners working in Poland increased by a third. If you mean 'foreigner criminals' when you say "savages", unfortunately Poland also lets those in, as shown by a certain four-time-convicted felon who can't work in his chosen industry in the USA or Canada and so has come to Poland to run the same scams here.

He means econ and culti parasites. The worst are LGBTs and Muslims - useless human waste...spreading AIDS and hate of Jews and Christians, while planning next 9/11 and 10/7.

Want a sample? Visit Londonistan. While there, see the King and ask the azzhole why he doesn't give a fvck about his kingdom.

I don't care about numbers here. Toddlers are my bottom line; that's the reason I talk about it. I'm not making a summary of the conflict or a survey of survivors.

You are Full of sh't because you use those numbers as an excuse to defend Israel and their policies.

Do you dare to claim that toddlers are not being deliberately killed there?
What a retard. You know because they told you, duh?

That's not how it works, azzhole...

I don't have to prove anything. The burden of proof is on the accuser.and it's not me since I don't accuse Israelis of nothing.

Ignorance, you say? That's classic projection from an internet tourist who's never even set foot in the U.S. You live on Google searches and message boards, cherry-pick whatever fits your bias, and call it "insight." You didn't refute a single thing, you just dodged, because deep down you know you're a internet troll with a keyboard trying to sound relevant.

You twist stats you don't understand, quote headlines like scripture, and lecture Americans from your little corner in Poland as if anyone asked. You're not informed, Lazarus, you're just loud. A digital drifter who mistakes time online for life experience. 😂

So keep pretending you're the authority on America from 4,000 miles away - the rest of us will keep laughing at you while you Google your next talking point. ROTFL


He already abandonded the UK because he couldnt hack it there.

That's a good one.

He usually is, does not write often, but when he does, it's typically terrific.I love his cartoons.

I noticed the same thing...