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USA News and Poland - part 15


OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
2 days ago   #1231
They themselves called it Cape Colony

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Colony
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1007
2 days ago   #1232
@Ironside
I oppose the forced entry of people of any race or culture into a society that does not want them and has nothing in common with them. There is absolutely no way either side could be comfortable. Yet, the leftist fvcktards continue to push things. That is until their daughter is raped by an illegal and their neighbor is killed because Allah made him do it.
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
2 days ago   #1233
You think the US should occupy Greenland ? Or Canada ? Or Panama ?
Ironside  51 | 13348
2 days ago   #1234
They themselves called it Cape Colony

Do you assert that the Romans were colonists?
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
2 days ago   #1235
Yes I think so - subjugation of native peoples, imposing their own governors, economic exploitation, making Latin the official language, brutal supression of rebellions, building big public structures including forts.

What do you think ?
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1007
1 day ago   #1236
@cms neuf
I dont think the US should occupy any of those countries. I do think the US should take back the Panama Canal if not treated fairly. I also believe the US should tariff Canada like none other to punish US companies for taking those jobs out of the country. Specifically automakers. Greenland can have a vote if they want. If they dont want, then I dont care.

Do you feel good about the demonstrations in the streets of Europe from Europeans protesting all the illegal immigration? Do you feel good about the protests in the streets of Europe from the other side? Is it responsible statesmanship for leaders to force these two groups to live together when they clearly do not want to? Immigration 101 requires assimilation. None of that is happening in Europe of the US.
jon357  73 | 24587
1 day ago   #1237
Romans were colonists?

The term colony is of course from
Latin. Meaning land liven to military veterans.

The Roman Empire is gone. The age of empires is over (although Putler, Trup and Xi may well have another take on that).

There are discussions to be had about security in the arctic region, especially in the light of man made climate change however this is not a matter for one country and the governments of Canada and Greenland are stable parts of the western alliance. Rather more stable democratically too than the country to the south of Canada.
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
1 day ago   #1238
Do I feel good about right wing demonstrations? They have always happened and always will. don't bother me. Would rather they are allowed to demonstrate than supressed.

Demonstrations by the "other side" ? You mean by illegal immigrants ? i don't know because I never saw one. I am not surprized they happen in LA because the capture of illegal immigrants is done in a deliberately confrontational way - masks, no IDs, no due process etc. I would protest if it happened in Poland. But in the US they are obviously ways to fire up the low information Golden Cow voters.
amiga500  5 | 1682
1 day ago   #1239
haven't heard much from pedo taco about the drug epidemic since he got ellected, busy with iran can't get a bomb is america first i guess.


PolAmKrakow  2 | 1007
1 day ago   #1240
@cms neuf
Real simple, illegal is illegal, you have no rights.

youtube.com/watch?v=f0CmlaUNcdQ If you dont assimilate into the host society, then you should be removed immediately. Want to support terrorist groups? Removed. Want to try to enforce Sharia Law, remove. Dont want to follow the laws regarding full facial covering in some European countries, remove.

Right wing is far to broad a label to put on people who only support legal immigration. Bill Clinton, Obama and others campaigned on legal immigration and stopping the flow of illegals. But they are left wing. You think labeling people is appropriate because they want laws followed? Labeling people is facism, maybe you want all right wing, or legal immigration supporters to wear a white star on their chest or an arm band?
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
1 day ago   #1241
Sure - it's real simple to define assimilation

Is a Polish immigrant allowed to go to the red apple buffet and listen to polka music with all the other old timers down there?
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1007
1 day ago   #1242
@cms neuf
Of course they are. They are also expected to try to learn English, and blend into the community. They are not expected to not learn English, not work, sponge off the State and taxes, or try to impose their views on religion and politics on people who are citizens. No differant than my learning Polish, getting more involved in my community, and learning more about customs and politics in Poland. It would be insane to think I should expect Poles to all speak or learn English or to act American. Yet, all the leftists want European citizens to accept and blend into the illegal immigrants ways. Fvcking retarded behavior.
jon357  73 | 24587
1 day ago   #1243
all the leftists want European citizens to accept and blend into the illegal immigrants ways

It's hard to know what dank hole he pulled that bit of nonsense from.
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
1 day ago   #1244
In Europe, if I'm honest, I'm just as worried about right wing terrorism as I am about Islamic fundamentalism. I see and read of lots of young men with obsessive and often irrational views, fixated on immigration, often interested in guns and violence, feeling adrift in the modern world and left behind.

I'm concerned about immigration myself, but don't spend every waking hour thinking of it, and in Poland it's not even on my top 10 list of things that need fixing.

I'm amazed that in the US maybe 30 or 40% of the population think it is awesome that the military out on the streets to come control some minor rioting.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1007
1 day ago   #1245
In Poland I have no concerns over immigration. A new bill introduced in the sejm the other day to increase time to become a citizen for foreigners on permanent residency. Poland is just fine, and will remain so as long as the left cannot take over the sejm, presidency and PM at once. If that happens, it will be another EU disaster.

Islam has no place in Europe on the scale that Brussles has allowed it to become. Germany, France and Sweden are fvcked. Some cities completely unlivable and not safe at all. No illegals should be allowed under any circumstances, and those who wont assimilate should be deported.

As for right wing demonstrations, you would see alot less if not for leftists policies in the EU. European culture should be preserved not altered to fit some vision of the WEF.
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
1 day ago   #1246
What do you think is European culture ? Aren't tolerance and free thinking important parts of it

And there will be right wing demonstrations whatever policies are adopted. Some of the most violent have not been about immigration but just a generals excuse for aggro and drug use - the 11th Nov demos of 5-10 years ago for an example
amiga500  5 | 1682
1 day ago   #1247
Aren't tolerance

Tolerance of what?
OP cms neuf  2 | 2159
1 day ago   #1248
Different views. Different ways of living

Cue an Australian about to lecture on European values
amiga500  5 | 1682
1 day ago   #1249
So you tolerate child and cousin marriage, female genital mutilation (30k cases per year in Sweden) and religious teachings that jews are worse than pigs and dogs? In your actual community?

How 'European' of you.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12317
1 day ago   #1250
Aren't tolerance and free thinking important parts of it

And Islam is so not having it!
jon357  73 | 24587
1 day ago   #1251
And Islam is so not having it!

Nor does Catholicism.

Are all Muslims as fanatical as the rightwing ones that you fear? Is every Catholic as bad as the worst of them?
Lyzko  45 | 9963
1 day ago   #1252
Excellent response!
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12317
1 day ago   #1253
Is every Catholic as bad as the worst of them?

I guess the Catholics are "hasbeens"....they lost their drive to spread, to expand, to proselytize somehow along the way. Nobody today would feel threatened by a catholic goody-two-shoes...the great times of Christianity are behind them, they are losing members left and right...

Islam now...that stays on a totally different development step!
jon357  73 | 24587
1 day ago   #1254
I guess the Catholics

And they aren't all the same. Thriving in Africa and other parts of the global south.

that stays on a totally different development

Yes, it is likely to become the major Abrahamic religion.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1007
1 day ago   #1255
@cms neuf
European culture of acceptance, and tolerance are great within traditional limitations. Muslims do not belong in Europe, their culture is not European and they do not want to assimilate. They should be removed is they do not learn the language and abide by the host countrys laws. Their religion and practice such as those @amiga500 mentioned have no place in any civilized society. Europe once lead the world in all facets of life, when it was European. Now the leftist globalist agenda is damaging Europe and devaluing European culture.

WTF is wrong with people when you are asking others to "accept" people who openly say that Catholics, Christians, Americans, Europeans are the devil and should be killed? How does anyone support these rapists, a sharia law supporters and sleep at night.

I dont GAF about LGBTQ issues in Europe. There have been fags and lesbians since the dawn of time. But they do not deserve holidays, parades or any other platform that could be used by perverted ones to indoctrinate victims. Do what you want in your own home, no one cares. Think the new Muslims coming into every country support or tolerant of LGBTQ? They would remove their heads. And thats what the leftists want in Europe and the US. Insane.
Alien  28 | 7082
1 day ago   #1256
...the great times of Christianity are behind them, they are losing members left and right...

I hope you're wrong. It's a mature, comfortable, and very tolerant religion in the meantime. Other religions stopped developing somewhere in the Middle Ages and Dark Forest.
Bobko  28 | 2449
1 day ago   #1257
Other religions stopped developing somewhere in the Middle Ages and Dark Forest.

There are Muslim countries that develop normally. One criteria seems to be if they have Arabs or not.

Malaysia produces a good portion of the world's semiconductors.

Indonesia has the biggest tech economy in Southeast Asia.

Azerbaijan does substantially better than its Christian neighbors - Georgia and Armenia.

Kazakhstan is quite rich, secular, and at one point was responsible for mining the most crypto in the world.

What they have in common is NO ARABS.

Persia would also be a great place to live, had there been no Arabs in their past.
jon357  73 | 24587
1 day ago   #1258
develop normally

Normally for whom?

There norms may differ.
Bobko  28 | 2449
1 day ago   #1259
Normally for whom?

Normally for anyone that wants to live in the 21st century?

You could argue that the Malaysians and Indonesians benefited from British and Dutch colonialism. Kazakhstan from Russian colonialism. Whereas the Arabs decayed under incompetent Turkish administration.

But then why do the Turks have no problem living in a secular democracy now, while Arabs still want to recreate a society resembling High Feudalism?
Bobko  28 | 2449
1 day ago   #1260
Maybe the reason is that every forward thinking Arab that had oriented himself towards Moscow, was killed or replaced in a violent coup?

Maybe the Arabs had a chance, if people like Nasser had been given a chance to fulfill the Pan-Arabist dream.


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