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USA News and Poland - part 15


Barney  19 | 1767
15 Apr 2025   #31
Italy now telling the EU to fvck off and going to negotiate its own trade deal

Must have missed the bit where Italy left the EU. Its crazy to suggest such a thing

There may be talks over trade but the EU is definitely not kissing Trumps ass nor is China. As I said above micronesia or somebody may want to do a trade deal with the US but no one will be kissing ass.
Lyzko  44 | 9826
15 Apr 2025   #32
Italy is no more leaving he EU than Germany, France, Spain or The Netherlands, folks!
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #33
It is not "China" that has their ships and product turned away, but Chinese businesses.

Wow, not only philosopher, but skillful hair splitter discoverer the difference between China and Chinese business..Medal of shame should be awoded to the maniac
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #34
God forbid we get Lyzko as the ultimate punishment.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #35
In his short time in power, he achieved more for the common man than Obama and Biden combined.
Lyzko  44 | 9826
15 Apr 2025   #36
Trump, as with Reagan, wants to squeeze the middle class
rather than the billionaires, hence forever widening the affordabilty
gap as never before.

America's middle class earners depend on cheap goods from China.
If all products cost what expensive European imports did, few Americans
could begin to afford them!
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #37
If you desire to be traded with respect get your a*se from resentment and hatred firmly anchored in not so distant past of the Angelas Ashes.
But I fear that is to much to ask
OP cms neuf  2 | 1956
15 Apr 2025   #38
What has been achieved for the common man since Golden Cow took over ?

The only common men who are better of are Jan 6th protestors.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #39
Extremely painful does not come even close.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #40
That is a perfect description of yourself. Now, you took one more step toward insanity. Do you realize you are talking to yourself?
PolAmKrakow  2 | 924
15 Apr 2025   #41
@Barney
Read the links I provided. Get an education on current events.

@Lyzko
Americas middle class depends on China? WTF are you smoking? America's poor are the consumers of Chinese garbage. Middle class doesnt buy garbage, they over spend for quality they really cant afford. You dont know $hit about the US or Americans.

All the financial genius here on PF is amazing. Throwbacks to mentioning FDR? The same FDR who provoked Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor by cutting Japan off from oil?The same FDR who created internment camps for Japanese Americans? Are you fvcking kidding? The social agendas of the left are what have Social Security in danger of becoming bankrupt. Poor financial management and bad trade deals of the left have created the crisis the US is now in.
Barney  19 | 1767
15 Apr 2025   #42
@PolAmKrakow
Those links don't say what you suggest. Nowhere do they claim that Italy is negotiating a trade deal with the US independent of the EU.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 924
15 Apr 2025   #43
@Barney
Another rocket scientist on PF. Clearly you didnt read all the reports. EU is going to blow Trump for a trade deal, the UK is already standing in line. 75 countries standing in line. You dont like Trump I dont GAF. His tactics have the world $hitting themselves, and its about time.

theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/15/trumps-chosen-one-giorgia-meloni-heads-to-washington-to-play-delicate-balancing-act Maybe that leftis POS news will tell you something?
OP cms neuf  2 | 1956
15 Apr 2025   #44
It doesn't say that in the article. She is unable to negotiate a separate deal.

Who says the UK is standing in line ? I thought Starmer said he hasn't spoken to Golden Cow and would wait and see what happens

Which 75 countries are you talking about ?
Barney  19 | 1767
15 Apr 2025   #45
@PolAmKrakow
Trump wet himself in public, everyone saw it. Trump caved the EU didn't neither did China. His retard day exposed him for the fool he is.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #46
Trump caved the EU didn't neither did China. His retard day exposed him for the fool he is.

Barney, you are a genius, contrary to President Trump being a fool with a 157 IQ. Besides, may I ask why you are watching Trump's zipper area? Are you a pervert?
OP cms neuf  2 | 1956
15 Apr 2025   #47
Golden Cow has an IQ of 157 ?

I am kind of skeptical given his inability to think a problem through

He is good at elections though - same as George W
Ironside  51 | 13147
15 Apr 2025   #48
I am kind of skeptical

We all respect your right to express an opinion.
Novichok  4 | 9270
15 Apr 2025   #49
I am kind of skeptical given his inability to think a problem through

Even a Polish retard should know his limits. You are worse than that...

77 million Americans voted for Trump without first asking you for your opinion. Got to fix it come Nov 2028...

What an azzhole...By now even Iron is embarrassed...
Lyzko  44 | 9826
15 Apr 2025   #50
@PolAmKrakow,

Some of us are better at financial management than others.
Why should the rest of America suffer because lawyers or professionals
with easy connections can steal escrow money from unsuspecting clients
whose only "crime" is that they need legal counsel?
Miloslaw  25 | 5406
15 Apr 2025   #51
EU is going to blow Trump for a trade deal, the UK is already standing in line.

This is true, but I can't see the EU getting an easy deal.I think the UK will fare better.

You dont like Trump I dont GAF. His tactics have the world $hitting themselves,

Not sure about the world $hitting themselves, but sure, he has managed to wake the world up a bit.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 790
15 Apr 2025   #52
Golden Cow has an IQ of 157 ?

What is your infatuation with the Cow? You endlessly repeat the same stupidity over and over again. Are you in animal husbandry, professionally, or just as a personal hobby? Do you get a funny sensation going down your leg at the sound of muuuuu? Is that all, or do you visit the chicken cup occasionally. The prognosis is not kind, leaning toward perverted. Drop that stupid Cow because you appear like a sparrow attacking the eagle and expecting victory.
Novichok  4 | 9270
16 Apr 2025   #53
with easy connections can steal escrow money from unsuspecting clients

Madoff and other Jewish crooks should be discussed in a separate thread.

Would you like to start one?

he has managed to wake the world up a bit.

China is laying off people by the thousands. Trump is a genius. He may actually start a revolution there...
Novichok  4 | 9270
16 Apr 2025   #54
This one is for the "Tariffs don't work" azzholes...

In their defense...only if those tariffs are American. Everywhere else, tariffs work very well. Strange but so true...



"Making stuff in America"...what a radical concept...and so risky....Oh, my God...we all are going to starve to death...
PolAmKrakow  2 | 924
16 Apr 2025   #55
@Novichok
Everyone being critical of tariffs, living in countries that have tariffs on US goods, along with other restrictions. Crazy the hypocricy. The EU with tariffs, Canada with crazy tariffs, Mexico with tariffs, and all of them not getting fvcked by ever rising national debt. Strangely as well, every one of them relying on the US economy and military.
Barney  19 | 1767
16 Apr 2025   #56
Everyone being critical of tariffs, living in countries that have tariffs on US goods, along with other restrictions.

Try importing something into the US that doesnt meet their standards. Do you not feel you are being a little hypocritical.

Trumps tariff taxes wont do the job. As for the EU kissing Trumps ass, this interview* spells out what European thinking is. Far from flip flopping like Trump the EU is ready to regulate and tax US services. China of course has ignored US histrionics with leading opinion formers stating bluntly that China doesnt care about the US market.



*zeit.de/politik/2025-04/ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-usa-donald-trump-english/komplettansicht

I have to repeat again...China and the EU took this conflict seriously from the start, they haven't folded, flip flopped or kissed US ass as claimed. Trump on the other hand has back tracked several times, tried to turn on the charm after insulting both indicating that he wasnt serious about his strategy. The EU and China have gamed this out and know how to deal with Trump.
OP cms neuf  2 | 1956
16 Apr 2025   #57
I recently read a good book about the Brexit negotiations and one thing that really surprised the British after the Brexit vote was that the EU stuck originally to the principle of negotiating En Bloc. Any attempts to do side deals or drive a wedge between them were just referred back to Brussels (and Donald Tusk who is the EU chair at the time)

The British also had the same idea - that their market was so big and so close that the EU would fold. Never happened.

The same will happen here - there is no way that even a midsize country like Italy, world leader in several industries, will decide they're better off doing their own deal.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 924
16 Apr 2025   #58
@cms neuf
No one can replace the US market. It is 25% of the whole fvcking global economy on its own. The EU will not only bend, but they will kiss the ring.

@Barney
China isnt prepared for anything. The EU is looking to negotiate. This is pressure, and long over due.
Paulina  19 | 4635
16 Apr 2025   #59
His tactics have the world $hitting themselves, and its about time.

WTF is wrong with you? Why is it "about time" for the entire world to "sh1t itself" because of the US? Do you hold a grudge against the whole world? You make it sound like the whole world is the US enemy o_O

EU is going to blow Trump for a trade deal

Why do you people (Trumpists) use such crude language? Is it some kind of reflection of your f*cked up mentality?

The EU will not only bend, but they will kiss the ring.

And again this f*cked up rhetoric. "Kiss" who's "ring"? Trump's? Trump isn't a "king" and the EU isn't his "vassal". The EU is an independent entity and a trading partner of the US. If you don't like the terms of this trade then they can be negotiated, but why this f*cked up, demeaning rhetoric?

Do you realise that this kind of rhetoric and attitude is one of the things that is making people dislike or even hate the US and Americans? Even if Trump forces the EU to change the tariffs - what good will that do if people in the EU will boycott your products? You want us to buy your products? Then it would be wise not to make us hate you... o_O
OP cms neuf  2 | 1956
16 Apr 2025   #60
But the EU is a comparable size - 19 percent of world GDP and larger than the US in many industries. Why will they be ass kissing ?

Trade war, like real war will be won by the side that is better organized, more professional, and has more clear aims.

Also like real war, it is nuts to start one if it's not obvious that you will win. But that is just what Golden Cow has done

BTW I saw yesterday some US politicians wearing brooches in the shape of golden cows head. That is the kind of mentality that we are dealing with now.


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