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USA News and Poland - part 8


PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,013
6 Jan 2024 #391
@Mr Grunwald
Sorry, I grew up there, and have done plenty of research on the Civil war. Slavery was not about the industrial revolution, or the North would have been all in on keeping it.
Ironside 53 | 12,471
6 Jan 2024 #392
No, slavery is what brought the Civil War on.

No slavery per se, but the perception of the people in the South was that the North wanted to take away (or share) the wealth they had accumulated thanks to their hard work, industry, and sacrifice. That it is an intrusion and attack on their way of life.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #393
they had accumulated thanks to their hard work, industry, and sacrifice.

Whose hard work?? Slave owners`?? Of course. They had to go to the slave fair and pick up a healthy strong black man or woman and then take them to their plantation and show what to do there. That was indeed hard work. hahahahaha
Poloniusz 4 | 722
6 Jan 2024 #394
hahahahaha

Why are you laughing like a fool?

Whose hard work??

"Like the black slaves in the plantations of the South, peasants in Poland were tied to the land, had to work hard (and for free), they could be severely punished by nobles living in white manors, and if they escaped, they were hunted. Just like their American counterparts, they lived a life that was hopeless and without much hope for change."

culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire

They had to go to the slave fair and pick up a healthy strong black man or woman and then take them to their plantation and show what to do there.

"the only difference between serfdom in Eastern and Central Europe and slavery as we know it from the Americas was that people were not sold individually, which means that members of families were not separated from each other. This does not mean however that there was no human trafficking. There was but it was a wholesale trade - villages were sold en bloc with all their population."


culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire
Mr Grunwald 32 | 2,189
6 Jan 2024 #395
@Poloniusz
That would explain a lot, I remember when studying migration that the few european population that would mix with the ex-slave population in 1800's was mostly with Polish population.

I guess circumstances and background was similar just as you pointed out
johnny reb 49 | 7,213
6 Jan 2024 #396
and then take them to their plantation and show what to do there.

Yes, and bred the dumb ones like animals so they never ran out of slave labor.
The smart slaves became very prosperous in America and bought their own slaves.
This is what the purpose of both Black and White slaves and why they were put on earth.
What do you think the Irish and Chinese people that built the great railroad in America were.
Just like the slaves of Europe under feudalism such as serfs, border, villein, and vagabonds.
Poland used their prisoners of war as slaves.
It all went bad when you bleeding heart liberals gave them the right to vote.
Until then they all knew their place and now look at the mess we have.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #397
Poland used their prisoners of war as slaves.

Yes, in 16th century.

While white Ams still kept slaves in 19th century. A few decades after the glorious Am revolution and the Enlightened Age. Outrageous.
johnny reb 49 | 7,213
6 Jan 2024 #398
Yes, in 16th century.

Then they brought it with them to America.
Pathetic without a doubt.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #399
This or that, whites in the US still owe it to blacks. You have to take care of them properly. Give compensation not only for slavery but also for later discrimination.

But you don`t want to do it coz you are not decent. You are rightist swine. Simple.
Poloniusz 4 | 722
6 Jan 2024 #400
Yes, in 16th century.

It didn't end there!

Socialism is Slavery

"The superiority of independent labor over Communism was known to the shipyard workers of Gdansk, Poland when they founded the Solidarity trade union...Solidarity helped bring down Communism in Eastern Europe."

victimsofcommunism.org/socialism-slavery/

See, as a chauffeured card-carrying communist you either knew or should have known that you personally supported slavery in Poland because you were a beneficiary of it!
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #401
Socialism is Slavery

Darling, we are talking now about real, not metaphorical slaves. Stop twisting.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
6 Jan 2024 #402
Why are you laughing like a fool?

Because he is or because he can. Like dogs licking their balls...

There is one thing I don't understand about slavery and migrants...If we need them for work, then don't let women in. Despite what leftist morons say, men can't get pregnant and make babies. So let men in, date them, and deport them by the expiration date. Next...
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #403
Why are you laughing

Firstly, because I feel amused. All this forum is funny as hell.
Secondly, I am typing that hahaha for you to know where and when you can start laughing too. hahahaha

Like dogs licking their balls...

Exactly!!! Mongrel and the pimp!!
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
6 Jan 2024 #404
Socialism is Slavery

When X has to support Y, X is a slave - aka a taxpayer - typically white as opposed to Y whose black sperm donor boyfriend is currently "in the system".

Way back, Y had to provide X with housing, food, and medical care. Today, X has to support himself and Y doesn't give a fvck how.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,013
6 Jan 2024 #405
@pawian
You do realize that the vast majority of American blacks cannot trace a single ancestor back to slavery right? And maybe Poland should pay all the PolAm's for the land that was taken from them during the war? And the the Jews should pay for all the Africans who died while mining diamond? Fvcking leftist bull$hit is unreal.
Poloniusz 4 | 722
6 Jan 2024 #406
the few european population that would mix with the ex-slave population in 1800's was mostly with Polish population.

Yes.

Relatedly, there are published articles which show that because of the era of slavery whites living today in the American South are now genetically closer to American blacks than any other whites living elsewhere.

we are talking now about real, not metaphorical slaves.

You have a simpleton's understanding of this topic but it is all the same just in different eras.





Here is an article in Polish glorifying state-run slave labor from the halcyon days of your communist youth:


pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #407
American blacks cannot trace a single ancestor

It is completely irrelevant if they can or can`t. Their skin colour is the best and enough trace of ancestry. :):):)

And maybe Poland should pay all the PolAm's for the land that was taken from them

That was already done after WW2. Communist regime compensated all Americans and others who lost their property here due to nationalisation.
Anything new??? :):):)

And the the Jews should pay for all the Africans who died while mining diamond?

Ooops. What do you mean ? Which Jews???
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
6 Jan 2024 #408
Memo to PAK and Poloniusz: Guys, you are diminishing your image here trying to reason with this a-hole.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #409
glorifying state-run slave labor

Still metaphorical slaves while we are discussing real ones. Stop azholing in this infantile way. It really doesn` t suit such a "genius" as you. hahahaha

you are diminishing your image here trying to reason

You are mad coz I am attracting their attention and you get less of it, you obsessive attention sicker!!!!! hahahaha

Sorry, darling, you can`t have everything what you want in life. Haven`t you learnt this primary life principle so far yet???? AmaSSIng!!!
johnny reb 49 | 7,213
6 Jan 2024 #410
But you don`t want to do it coz you are not decent.

We have already compensated them more than enough many times.
Just look at the monster you bleeding heart liberals have created.
You have made them slaves to the government,
What has Poland done to compensate their slaves ?
Bet he doesn't indoctrinate his students with that question. haha haha

you personally supported slavery in Poland because you were a beneficiary of it!

Exactly and now he doesn't want to be decent and take care of them properly by twisting calling them slaves that don't count as slaves. :-/

Do as I say, not as I do.

Fvcking leftist bull$hit is unreal.

You nailed it.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #411
We have already compensated them more than enough many times.

No, you haven`t. They are still in deep confusion and can`t get a grip after their traumatic experiences. It is your fekking fault, whites!!! The shadow of the oppressed black race will haunt you for decades or centuries until you start loving them as your brothers!

Kneel down, white trash, and apologise for all the injustice you did to them!
Poloniusz 4 | 722
6 Jan 2024 #412
What has Poland done to compensate their slaves ?

Nothing.

Decades ago PiS saw the need for a Fourth Polish Republic to finally and fully address Poland's shameful communist past.

But there are too many old communists like pawian and Tusk still alive who cried foul and went ballistic at the thought of being held to account and forever losing the vestiges of a system which they personally benefitted from.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #413
benefitted

AmaSSSSSSing!!! You are using the British spelling although you generally reject Brits and everything British and even adopted that anti British nickname in the past. ShytonuBrits.

hahahahaha

I got you, darling.
Not the first, not the last time. :):):):)
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,013
6 Jan 2024 #414
Funny, my family had a whole lot of property that they were never compensated for. But hey, must have been an oversight. Such an oversight that on one piece of property I have visited just outside of Krakow the camily home still stands, and ancestors headstones fill the local cemetary. Life is hard, $hit happens and people need to stop looking for excuses for their own failures in life or their own inability to become successful.

Black skin is somehow a claim to money? Thats fvcking hilarious. The black race, the Irish race, the Asian race. All this bull$hit created by leftists to distract people from seeing there is only one race, the human race. And the human race is cruel. Get over it.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
6 Jan 2024 #415
forever losing the vestiges of a system which they personally benefitted from.

Every normal person with a healthy instinct of self-preservation would do the same so I can't really blame them.
Hypocrisy and racism are how we survive individually and collectively.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #416
that they were never compensated for.

Go the the US gov of 1960s and claim your share. :):):)

Such an oversight that on one piece of property I have visited just outside of Krakow the camily home still stands, and ancestors headstones fill the local cemetary.

Wow, I never suspected you of being of Polish Jewish origin. Now it looks like that. Stupid me!!!

Respect. Why didn`t you tell us before??? I wouldn`t have been so harsh on you coz I love Polish Jews.
AntV 5 | 691
6 Jan 2024 #417
leftists to distract people from seeing there is only one race, the human race

AMEN!!!!!
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
6 Jan 2024 #418
In the US, blacks murder at a rate 17 times higher than whites. Still feel that you and they are "the human race"?
The evidence: CDC and the FBI stats.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,258
6 Jan 2024 #419
An African gulag so ghastly that inmates risk death to escape

NAIROBI - The tiny African nation of Eritrea is a sliver of fear wedged between Ethiopia and the Red Sea, a land that has known only a single strongman leader and the shadow of repression since independence three decades ago. Nothing exemplifies the reach and cruelty of the state today as much as its prison system.

Eritrea is riddled with an appalling variety of prisons: Underground cells of crumbling concrete, and sweltering jails fashioned from converted metal cargo containers. Cages crammed with hundreds of men who must sleep on their sides like sardines, as their cellmates wearily stand to make room, and shallow holes scraped from the earth with log and dirt ceilings so low that inmates cannot stand up.


This is what happens when blacks rule. Sweden is what happens when woke morons rule.
pawian 224 | 24,663
6 Jan 2024 #420
In the US, blacks murder at a rate 17 times higher than whites

Of course. Whites` fault. If they hadn`t bought and kept black slaves in the past, there wouldn`t be any problems now. You can only blame yourself, darling.


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