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f stop 25 | 2,513
13 Mar 2010 #61
OK, here is one example that I admit to, when I was guilty of "lying". I'm a highly technical person, and in this one forum, mostly about building in 3rd world country, I assumed a male nick because I was not taken seriously. Seriously! After that I became one of the most helpful contributors. Eventually I did come out, though, proving a point. Should I feel bad about that deception?

Another one, with a bunch of sarcastic SOBs in NY that kept me up at night, I had two personalities (doesn't everyone though?), one agreeable, much loved persona, another, a cantakerous devils advocate. I don't do that anymore, I swear, but what fun I had! The admin never outed me out, but some alert readers, through painstaking writing style analysis, did.

In grubas's case, (I know, unreasonably), it just didn't seem like a clean fight after the outing.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Mar 2010 #62
Should I feel bad about that deception?

Deception takes many forms, you were not bullying people, lying in a very direct way that disproved everything you said and being a complete hypocrite.

F stop, you can go on about this as much as you like, I think his behaviour was that of a bully and he got a slap on the wrist.

it just didn't seem like a clean fight after the outing.

It wasn't a clean fight because he was lying, bullying and being a complete hypocrite, so you can forget about ever having a "clean fight".
OP grubas 12 | 1,391
13 Mar 2010 #63
In grubas's case, (I know, unreasonably), it just didn't seem like a clean fight after the outing.

Damn right
f stop 25 | 2,513
13 Mar 2010 #64
he was lying, bullying and being a complete hypocrite

The way my bleeding heart sees it, he is a homesick Pole, getting distraught (probably from reading this forum) at the wave of Muslims poised to occupy his ojszczyzna. If he made it known that he is posting from abroad, the point, in his mind, would have been lost. Plus, he had a few drinks (I was betting on it when I replied Na Zdrowie) and did a half a$$ed (full a$$ed, actualy) but probably well intentioned call to arms. We could have make a point so many different ways, instead, almost everyone jumping in harped on that one fact, the deception. I feel dirty.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Mar 2010 #65
The way my bleeding heart sees it,

So you don't see that he behaved like a bully.
Okay, what if it were yet another countryman who demanded that all Poles have to leave his country, would your heart bleed then?

the wave of Muslims poised to occupy his ojszczyzna

What on earth are you talking about? You are just making up stuff now because you have decided to take his side for goodness knows what reasons but I really and truly do not care.

We could have make a point so many different ways,

You mean you could have debated or communicated without lying, bullying and being a complete hypocrite? jeez is it asking too much of you?

Anyway you want to discuss this further, fine, just don't expect me to.

Oh and I have noticed you said nothing about the poster who posted another person's name for no good reason on the other thread but you have chosen to fight your battle, well good luck with that and all.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
13 Mar 2010 #66
Visa Waiver Program

Duh?, of course.

Strengthen the borders and deport illegals. Put our neighbors through the south through the exact same visa process as everyone else. The majority of the people who are illegal here came in through a legal route. WTF are we spending all that border control money on?

Agree 100%

Reps like illegals because they're "cheap" to the business owners. Of course the states pay when they get sick, commit crimes, etc. Dems want illegals because over 90% of mexicans vote Dem (according to la raza). In Georgia for example you cannot be asked for a picture ID when voting because that might be "discriminatory to the minorities" (GA supreme court ruling) so all you need is copies of bills paid in the state of Georgia. You think Acorn used that loophole? There are many other states with similar rules. ACLU has run amok.
f stop 25 | 2,513
13 Mar 2010 #67
well good luck with that and all

dude, you're getting too worked up. Sometimes I like to engage in a little iPsychology instead of parsing others replies sentence by sentence. My bad.

I am contributing to the outing subject, right here. I have nothing more to say to that amanda person.

And grubas, for Jah's sake, man, you are being discussed like a specimen! I hope this is a good lesson for you.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Mar 2010 #68
I have nothing more to say to that amanda.

My name is not Amanda until 4:00 a.m.
f stop 25 | 2,513
13 Mar 2010 #69
LOL
I'll be Ben.
OP grubas 12 | 1,391
13 Mar 2010 #70
The way my bleeding heart sees it, he is a homesick Pole, getting distraught (probably from reading this forum) at the wave of Muslims poised to occupy his ojszczyzna.

No ,I am more sick and tired of this crooked ,antipolish regimes occupying my land for over 20 years.All they want to do is to tax you to death and then waist the money on some BS.F*****g crooks and traitors.I would like to go back but I am not going to support this fuckers with a single penny of my taxes.What this country needs is a revolution,even bloody one if necessery.The problem is that majority of polish ppl do not know better. Poland could be a great country,much better than many so called "western" ones but first it has to get rid of the leeches in sejm and senat.

Plus, he had a few drinks (I was betting on it when I replied Na Zdrowie)

I do not drink.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
13 Mar 2010 #71
Okay so Admin removed my first post, not sure why?

Can we call the OP a racist? Or can we call him a prik, similar to my original question...

Or can we say that most Poles whilst they like the freedom, they like the idea of Poland being homogenous? Cant have it both ways...And neither you shall...freedom comes at a price!
f stop 25 | 2,513
13 Mar 2010 #72
Okay so Admin removed my first post, not sure why?

I wish I remembered what you said..

I would like to go back but I am not going to support ...

I don't think you are as stupid as your first post indicated. I would be interested to know what set you off last night - were you reading something, or talked to somebody?

Anyway, I think it's time for you to change your nickname.
And hope the admins won't out you.
OP grubas 12 | 1,391
13 Mar 2010 #73
don't feed the troll

Amen.Calm down ppl(well,some of you).I was just breaking your balls.Wanted to see how you will react to shit I deal with from time to time.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
13 Mar 2010 #74
I wish I remembered what you said..

I called him a retard :D

).I was just breaking your balls

Not only racist, but sexist to boot, there are females on this thread too...
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
13 Mar 2010 #75
Poland for the Polish! Foreign invaders OUT!

*except SeanBM
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Mar 2010 #76
Cheers bud, I new underneath it all you always liked me :)
Polskiej_Dumy 18 | 66
14 Mar 2010 #77
What about polish people who were born in a nother country but want to move to Poland cause theyre proud to be Polish?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
14 Mar 2010 #78
How can you be proud to be Polish if you've never lived in Poland and wasn't born in Poland?

Plastic Polish, perhaps.
jonni 16 | 2,485
14 Mar 2010 #79
polish people who were born in a nother country

They aren't Polish. They are of Polish descent.

The guy from Iraq who runs the takeaway at the end of y street is more Polish than they are - he speaks the language all day every day, works hard and pays his taxes here and his children were born here.
beelzebub - | 444
14 Mar 2010 #80
How can you be proud to be Polish if you've never lived in Poland and wasn't born in Poland?

Plastic Polish, perhaps.

A new phrase coined here. Plastic Poles ;) Fit's perfectly to these types.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
14 Mar 2010 #81
Not my phrase, I stole it from someone else on here ;)

But it is perfect - most of them would last 2 minutes here, and it's safe to say that the majority of Polish-Americans simply have no idea what Poland is actually like.

And let's not forget how many of them suddenly remebered that they were TRUE POLES once Poland joined the EU ;)
jonni 16 | 2,485
14 Mar 2010 #82
the majority of Polish-Americans simply have no idea what Poland is actually like.

I remember an American who used to work for me getting really upset by all the modern buildings and Italian restaurants in Warsaw - he expected PL to look the way his granny had described her village.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
14 Mar 2010 #83
I love the worldview of some of them - it's so...cute?

Actually - the ones that drive me mad are the ones that claim that they're coming to Poland for the "ye olde country" experience - but of course, they head straight to Krakow or Wroclaw!
Polskiej_Dumy 18 | 66
15 Mar 2010 #84
How can you be proud to be Polish if you've never lived in Poland and wasn't born in Poland?

Plastic Polish, perhaps.

They aren't Polish. They are of Polish descent.

HELLO!! they have polish blood!! they sure dont have "American blood" do they? It's nothing more then papers. and how the hell do you know they don't speak Polish??? so what you are saying is someone who was born to Polish parents in the U.S., speaks Polish, knows about Poland, and is proud to have Polish blood, who moves to Poland and lives there.. Is NOT(?) Polish??? EXPLAIN YOUR LOGIC PLEASEE!!
OP grubas 12 | 1,391
15 Mar 2010 #85
I remember an American who used to work for me getting really upset by all the modern buildings and Italian restaurants in Warsaw - he expected PL to look the way his granny had described her village.

What did you expect?I meet many of these ppl.They acctually call themselves "Pollacks".It goes like this:they "Where you from?" I "I am from Poland" they "Oh I am Pollack too!"I "No,you may be Pollack but I am a Pole".The way they picture life in PL is:Poles wear national dresses daily,eat nothing but "kielbasy","pirogis"and "holubki"(gołąbki), ride horse wagons and dance polka all day long.(NONE of them belived that I don't know how to dance polka).They mostly nice ppl but don't know much about life in PL.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,297
15 Mar 2010 #86
I remember an American who used to work for me getting really upset by all the modern buildings and Italian restaurants in Warsaw - he expected PL to look the way his granny had described her village.

Was he getting "upset" or was he surprised? Upset sounds like he was mad Poland had become a modern society. He sounds ignorant but ignorance exists in each and every country, wouldn't you say?
Mr Grunwald 23 | 1,661
11 Apr 2010 #88
How can you be proud to be Polish if you've never lived in Poland and wasn't born in Poland?

1. one/both of the parents could have teached them a bit patriotism
2. there was a lot of Polish Americans "plastic Poles?" whom joined the ranks of the blue army in France in WW1

As I have lived a year in Poland and come there each year (sometimes two times even)
In which basket would you put me in hmm?
hairball 20 | 313
15 Apr 2010 #89
The way they picture life in PL is:Poles wear national dresses daily,eat nothing but "kielbasy","pirogis"and "holubki"(gołąbki), ride horse wagons and dance polka all day long

Sounds just about right where I live dude!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
15 Apr 2010 #90
(cut load of rubbish)grubas - posting from the USA and not PL.

Hm, an American saying that all foreigners in PL need to get the *peep* out of there? Does anybody notices the irony of this all?

Btw, I think grubas is mildly deranged.

HELLO!! they have polish blood!!

When you're born in the US, you're American. Country of birth determines generally your nationality. Doesn't matter if your grandpa was Irish, Italian, Dutch, German or Polish. Can't stand it when Americans tell me: "hey, I'm Irish!" or "Hey, I'm Dutch too!" No, you're not! Were you born in Ireland or the Netherlands or in Poland? No? In the US? Then you're American. Ad sec.

>^..^<

M-G (grubas go home, grubas go home, grubas, grubas, grubas go home)


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