Polish Misunderstanding of American Terminology

I have noticed here on the P.F. that Polish members are not familiar with a lot of American vocabulary.
Words have many connotations in America that are foreign to Poland.
Even in America it boils down to geographics', ya'll.
Like the other day when someone called a vaccine a shot.
Or when Ptak commented:


Or like I did with NATO countries in Iraq.


Meaning the calls by NATO 'governments' and not NATO in proper.
Is this just because Polish people like to frivolously "pick" or is it really because they are ignorant to American terminologies ?

Why should anyone here be expected to be especially knowledgeable about American usage?

Especially why should someone who knows next to nothing about Poland have such expectations?

@johnny reb
It's because Queen English and it's terminology is used in education in most of the world (including in Poland). So American terminology and what's said in American news aren't picked up by Poles living in Poland.

Most Poles don't watch CNN or FOX news, so if any Poles knows American terminology it's because he lives/lived in America.

Like Cejrowski? I guess

Most languages have hidden terminologies which are meant only to be understood by native speakers.

Yes and no.

In very general terms, NAmerican English is the most widely understood among native speakers. But as a foreign language in Europe, UK English predominates as the model to be learned.

Excellent answer.
Non-native speakers should not try to diminish American native speakers and expect them to speak their lingo.

People who know nothing about Poland should spend less time on internet forums devoted to discussion of that country... it's an imperfect world we live in, we have to make do....


Americans should expect everyone else to "speak their lingo"

English is pluricentric - there's no single, unified "standard English" but rather different national standards. It behooves us all (native and non-native speaker alike) to show a little common courtesy in terms of language differences.

Your contribution is dully noted.

I mean duly noted. :-)

Good for you, Johnny, for calling them on their mistakes!
Just keep it up.

Yes, you caused a qui pro quo with your ignorant mistake on NATO govs which Paulina pointed to and you flew off the handle immediately, refusing to accept her correction. It is amussing you are still trying to cover it up here, in a special thread, by putting the blame on Polish members and suggesting they don`t understand sth which Americanos communicate. Darling, we understand perfectly, so stop your dirty tricks and try to avoid silly mistakes in the future, Mr Insecure Liar. :):):)

He's not doing that, he's criticizing non-native speakers for having trouble understanding his garbled writing... or criticizing them for not having American intuitions about usage, which is just dumb.


yes.


...quite....

Or possibly, pawian, he's calling certain Polish native speakers on their arrogance, believing that they understand more English than they really do:-)

Correct the syntax in your sentence - at first, I thought believing refered to johhny. On second reading, I realised you meant Polish speakers believed sth.

That`s how native speakers of English make language mistakes without being aware of them. :):):):) And later they avoid taking responsibility for their own mistakes and blame others, like johhny. Amassing! hahaha

@Pawian,
Thank you Joseph Conrad LOL

not quite a mistake (something a lot ot native speakers do is by definition, not a mistake) but not a sentence recommended for interactions with non-natives either

Amen, Maf!
Guess my English is too native, he-he.

I didn`t say it was a mistake. :):):) Go back to my post and check.


Just a negligent language usage, embarassing when made by educated speakers. :):):)

You told him the syntax needed to be corrected...


Virtually all human beings speak their native language (in casual situations) in casual, ambiguous ways.

When interacting with non-native speakers (or native speakers of a different variety of the same language) a little more care is called for.

Does it always mean a mistake???? :):):)

I rarely tell people to correct something that's not a mistake..... (understatement)

Still no mention of a mistake........... :):):)


How about suggesting a change to make sth more accurate??? It is covered by improve but correct can also be used here.


Coz you aren`t a teacher????

Why should they be?


Again, you show an American arrogance that believes all people should understand your broken English.
I listen to Radio Poland's English service quite a lot, their main presenter speaks English with an American or Canadian accent but all the rest speak proper English.

Which leads us to believe that proper English is still the accepted norm.

...because the US is number 1 and there is no number 2 on the Western "democracy" list.

I didn`t.


Stop lying, darling. When I used "jab," Novi ridiculed it coz it sounded too foreign to him.


Yes, in oppressing blacks.

I didn't comment on that fragment in which you mentioned "NATO governments", but on this sentence: "Like NATO did in Iraq"? This sentence is factually incorrect and that is why I pointed it out. I don't know if you wrote it this way because you were being lazy, sloppy or ignorant. If you were a Putinist I would think you're manipulating on purpose. Either way, it was an untrue statement, because the invasion of Iraq wasn't a NATO operation and majority of NATO member states didn't take part in it. Even if we treated your sentence as some kind of hyperbole (which is one type of figurative language) it would still be a factually incorrect statement. As I wrote already - that thread isn't about poetry, we're discussing real events there and facts matter.


It is because you're trying to cover up your bad behaviour and mistakes by claiming it's due to non-Americans misunderstanding "American terminologies". When you lie you claim it's "sarcasm". Like when you repeatedly wrote that you have a cattle ranch in Mexico or wherever and later you claimed it was "sarcasm". Which wasn't - it was simply a lie. It doesn't matter if you were using this lie to troll Harry and delph or not - it was still a lie. When you bully people you claim it's just "friendly banter", which is not true, because people you're bullying don't enjoy it in the slightest and despise you for the way you're treating them. So, you're either you're lying on purpose or that "sarcasm", "friendly banter", etc. is only in your head.

On Chat you also claimed that I didn't understand some "American terminology", but mocha dot, who was brought up and educated in the US, called you out on your bullsh1t.

Remember the other day when the word shot was used for the word vaccine and the Eurps had a meltdown because they had never heard of that terminology before.

Shot = vaccine
shot = shooting a gun
shot = being burned out
shot = the load in a shotgun shell
shot = unusable
shot = someone being killed or wounded by a gun
shot =
Us Yanks have many meanings for one word that you Eurps may not have heard of over der across da pond.
Listen and learn.

Or, as a response to someone who purposely makes a snide remark in another's direction, "Was that a shot?" shooting a picture, of course, and so forth.

You can't take one sentence out of context and attack it. Read on.
No matter how many times you Rinse & Repeat you aren't going to change the facts to your favor.
Read on into the next sentence and it will, As I wrote already Hon.
The calls by "NATO governments" for direct intervention
And it doesn't matter how many times I explain that to you in plain English you still will disagree.
Now get lost

Yes, we disagree to your dirty coverage of your own mistakes.


Of course not, darling. We shall continue pointing to all your ridiculous mistakes which you commit here.

The Mods don't dare leave this thread on the front page in fear of you Podunks getting humiliated to no end.


You ain't seen nuthin' yet.


This is good to keep things somewhat fair.